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Sep 3, 2022 10:55:28   #
Jerry Green Loc: Huntsville, AL
 
I recently got the TTArtisan f/2.8 AF lens for Nikon Z. Excellent lens.

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Sep 3, 2022 11:13:27   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
I have 1 Artisan lens, seldom use it. Image quality is ho-hum. Need I say more?

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Sep 3, 2022 11:24:48   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Yeah, don't be too quick to dismiss some of the lenses coming out of China, Korea, etc. these days. There are a lot of good ones.

Many are quite well built, all metal barrels. A lot of them are simple... fully manual: both focusing and aperture control. Slower to use, but capable of very nice images.

Below are some examples shot with various "budget" lenses. The most I paid for any of these was $124 (incl. tax and shipping).

Meike 12mm f/2.8 (same as Opteka, I think)
Meike 12mm f/2.8 (same as Opteka, I think)...
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Rokinon 21mm f/1.4 (also sells under Samyang brand)
Rokinon 21mm f/1.4 (also sells under Samyang brand...
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Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 Macro (vintage Adaptall 2 lens)
Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 Macro (vintage Adaptall 2 len...
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Sep 3, 2022 11:56:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
++ ....most of these lenses are made for artistic purposes - and not BIF or wildlife pics. So most UHH'ers won't approve. Oh, and the cost is too low - can't be good if you don't have ta' mortgage yer house! JMO!

(my Meike 35mm f/1.4 sees a.lot of airtime on my GF1 and OM-D 10.1 bodies)



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Sep 3, 2022 12:10:52   #
User ID
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
++ ....most of these lenses are made for artistic purposes - and not BIF or wildlife pics. So most UHH'ers won't approve. Oh, and the cost is too low - can't be good if you don't have ta' mortgage yer house! JMO!

(my Meike 35mm f/1.4 sees a.lot of airtime on my GF1 and OM-D 10.1 bodies)

You nailed it: "Artistic Purposes". Manual lenses are meant for interesting images. This flys in the face of the local tradition of using very high end lenses to make very low end boring images.

"Interesting" does NOT mean optically weird or flawed. It just means that they operate too slowly to get perfect focus on the eyelashes of BIFs. Acoarst a few such lenses really are (intentionally) optically "interesting" ... but most are squeaky clean. And nearly all are solidly built.

For folks hooked by low tech heavy metal lenses, but who couldnt stomach putting cheap lenses on their expensive camera, theres a great solution: Voigtlander Zeiss offers a full range from mildly expensive to genuinely exhorbitant "heavy metal".
For folks hooked by low tech heavy metal lenses, b...
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Sep 3, 2022 12:49:07   #
gwilliams6
 
FYI, there is a difference between 7Artisan and TTartisan lenses, two different companies.

The simple truth is that TT artisan is a different company, but It has a complicated relation with 7Artisans, one of the 7 co-founders of 7Artisans started a new company named TTartisan on 2019, and 7artisans was established on 2016, 3 years earlier than TTartisan.

https://fotobargain.com/what-is-the-relationship-between-ttartisan-and-7atisans/

"Are 7Artisans lenses good?
Performance. Sharpness is highly impressive at apertures of f/2 and narrower and, for such a fast-aperture lens, holds up very well even when shooting wide-open at f/1.05. What's arguably more important for this type of lens is the quality of bokeh, and that's where the 7Artisans really excels. Sep 29, 2021"

Cheers

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Sep 3, 2022 13:05:21   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
kymarto wrote:
People who stick to the old name brands are missing wonderful opportunities with new optics. Brands like TTArtisan, 7Artisans, Samyang, Meike, Viltrox, Irix, Youngno, and Laowa are pushing the bounds with their offerings, which are not often mechanically and optically excellent. For example the Yongnuo YN 85mm F1.8S DF DSM is ranked third highest of all lenses in the DXOmark database in optical quality, and it costs $345.

Laowa makes some unique super macro lenses, as well as the world's widest rectilinear lens (9mm). All excellent quality.

The 7Artisan 50mm f0.95 is for MFT, but TTArtisan makes a 50 0.95 for full frame, which is very good. I recently purchased a 7Artisan 10mm f2.8 fisheye lens for FF, which is amazing: optically superb, beautifull crafted, and around $300. Here is an example using HDR, shot in Budapest a few days ago. Extreme HDRs are one of the best ways to test the optical quality of a lens, in terms of contrast and transmission, and this lens come through with flying colors, also sharp corner to corner.
People who stick to the old name brands are missin... (show quote)



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Sep 3, 2022 14:44:41   #
gwilliams6
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Yeah, don't be too quick to dismiss some of the lenses coming out of China, Korea, etc. these days. There are a lot of good ones.

Many are quite well built, all metal barrels. A lot of them are simple... fully manual: both focusing and aperture control. Slower to use, but capable of very nice images.

Below are some examples shot with various "budget" lenses. The most I paid for any of these was $124 (incl. tax and shipping).


Very nice,

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Sep 3, 2022 15:40:06   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'll pass.
--Bob
jerryc41 wrote:
I came across a 7Artisans 50mm f/0.95 lens online. Looking for reviews, I found one. It's a cheap lens ($200+), and it's quirky, but it produces nice (quirky) results. Looking further, I see that 7Artisans makes lots of inexpensive lenses. I have all the lenses I need right now, though.

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Sep 3, 2022 17:18:46   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
++ ....most of these lenses are made for artistic purposes - and not BIF or wildlife pics. So most UHH'ers won't approve. Oh, and the cost is too low - can't be good if you don't have ta' mortgage yer house! JMO!

(my Meike 35mm f/1.4 sees a.lot of airtime on my GF1 and OM-D 10.1 bodies)


Clearly manual focus lenses are not very usable for BIF, and sports and wildlife but there is a lot more to photography than those disciplines without getting into the realm of the purely artistic.

These were taken this past Thursday at the Cradle of Aviation Museum in Garden City Long Island, the original site of the Army Air Corps' Mitchell Field. They are all SOOC Jpegs taken with my Nikon Z fc and a Voigtlander 23mm f/1.2 manual focus prime lens. There was no additional artificial lighting used and no post processing applied to any of these images, although I will eventually crop, straighten, and bring out more shadow detail from some of them. The Voigtlanders are more expensive than the lenses mentioned in this thread, but like them, they also have their quirks and limitations.

The advantage of many of these wide aperture manual focus and AF models from some lesser known brands, is the quality of their sharpness, contrast and color rendition. While they may not always be as analytical as some better known lenses, using them can often result in more pleasing images. With the tools available in modern mirrorless bodies, and with practice and care, manual focus lenses are capable of capturing sharp, contrasty images, even in very low light. Many of the attached images are examples of that. Click on Download to view these images at full resolution.

Front entrance
Front entrance...
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Early rocket. Not sure if it is real or a mock up
Early rocket. Not sure if it is real or a mock up...
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Small private plane
Small private plane...
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World War 1 military vehicle
World War 1 military vehicle...
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Early hot air balloon wicker basket
Early hot air balloon wicker basket...
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Blue Angels jet
Blue Angels jet...
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WW II glider cabin
WW II  glider cabin...
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Sep 3, 2022 18:09:51   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
User ID wrote:
You nailed it: "Artistic Purposes". Manual lenses are meant for interesting images. This flys in the face of the local tradition of using very high end lenses to make very low end boring images.

"Interesting" does NOT mean optically weird or flawed. It just means that they operate too slowly to get perfect focus on the eyelashes of BIFs. Acoarst a few such lenses really are (intentionally) optically "interesting" ... but most are squeaky clean. And nearly all are solidly built.
You nailed it: "Artistic Purposes". Manu... (show quote)



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Sep 3, 2022 18:17:26   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Yeah, don't be too quick to dismiss some of the lenses coming out of China, Korea, etc. these days. There are a lot of good ones.

Many are quite well built, all metal barrels. A lot of them are simple... fully manual: both focusing and aperture control. Slower to use, but capable of very nice images.

Below are some examples shot with various "budget" lenses. The most I paid for any of these was $124 (incl. tax and shipping).




Excellent images. I love my Voigtlander fast manual focus primes which are more pricey than the lenses you used for these images. However, for me the results I get are worth the price. Of course, manual focus lenses are not for everyone. They are not an efficient tool for fast moving subjects, They also significantly slow down the photographic process which is an issue for some shooters. Additionally, many people don't have the interest or patience needed to get the best from them. Using them I find I shoot far fewer images than with my AF lenses but still have a higher percentage of keepers. I believe that may be the result of greater attention to my settings and composition than when I use an AF lens.

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Sep 4, 2022 08:19:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I'm surprised at how many companies I've never heard of are making inexpensive Z lenses. I came across one last night - Brightin Star 23mm f/5.6 totally manual for $70. This is not a lens that a wedding photographer is going to use, but it does capture light, and it's cheap. You don't have to search for reviews to find out if it's any good. I think you already know. Still, it's a lens that actually works, and it's cheap. You could say this would push your abilities as a photographer.

There are lots of Brightin Star lenses available, all for low prices.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brightin+star+nikon+z+lenses&oq=brightin+star+nikon+z+lenses&aqs=edge..69i57j0i546j0i395i546l4j69i64.8502j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Come to think of it, I wonder why camelcamelcamel sent me a notice about a price drop because I didn't even know this lens existed, let alone have it on my Amazon list.

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Sep 4, 2022 11:40:43   #
gwilliams6
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm surprised at how many companies I've never heard of are making inexpensive Z lenses. I came across one last night - Brightin Star 23mm f/5.6 totally manual for $70. This is not a lens that a wedding photographer is going to use, but it does capture light, and it's cheap. You don't have to search for reviews to find out if it's any good. I think you already know. Still, it's a lens that actually works, and it's cheap. You could say this would push your abilities as a photographer.

There are lots of Brightin Star lenses available, all for low prices.

https://www.google.com/search?q=brightin+star+nikon+z+lenses&oq=brightin+star+nikon+z+lenses&aqs=edge..69i57j0i546j0i395i546l4j69i64.8502j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Come to think of it, I wonder why camelcamelcamel sent me a notice about a price drop because I didn't even know this lens existed, let alone have it on my Amazon list.
I'm surprised at how many companies I've never hea... (show quote)


It is good that companies are making affordable Z lenses, like all those making affordable autofocus and manual focus E-mount lenses. Nikon and Sony (longtime partners with their sensors) are smart enough to allow and encourage this, it helps both brands sell more cameras to people of all budgets and gets them into their mirrorless systems.

Cheers and best to you.

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Sep 4, 2022 12:36:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
It is good that companies are making affordable Z lenses, like all those making affordable autofocus and manual focus E-mount lenses. Nikon and Sony (longtime partners with their sensors) are smart enough to allow and encourage this, it helps both brands sell more cameras to people of all budgets and gets them into their mirrorless systems.

Cheers and best to you.



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