Full Frame Lens vs D Frame on a D-500 (Page 3): Based on hundreds of discussions here on that topic, using FX on a DX camera is good - not wasteful. You're using the center of the lens...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Based on hundreds of discussions here on that topic, using FX on a DX camera is good - not wasteful. You're using the center of the lens - the sharpest part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8-vfiq33R4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBIiAIgsg0
https://www.livingthedreamrtw.com/full-frame-lens-on-crop-sensor
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/products-and-innovation/the-dx-and-fx-formats.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbUIfB5YUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGIprLchLFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgC30Sm_p8g

uhaas2009

Not every lens to camera body is a blessing. If you like your lenses to your 500 body than don’t change it. A FX lens is always better just because fits on DX and FX. My 7000 didn’t handle the tokina 100mm 2.8 not well but my 810 it’s good. My 17-55mm2.8 was an incredible lens on every camera but was just a DX. A DX lens on a FX body made me loose to much.
The last sales person wanted to sell me a new tamron and I left the store with out a lens and I wanted the one used one from Nikon…..

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jimpitt wrote:

Many professionals have said I am wasting my $'s with having two full frame zooms for a D-500 D format.
Am considering selling the two lenses for one D, maybe an 18-300 zoom.
Is it a waste?
Or should I replace the body instead with an 850?
Ideas?

Since the only negative reaction to your kit come not from you but from others (so-called professionals) your current kit apparently suits you well enough and should be maintained as is. IOW change nothing at all.

You have no real reason to make any changes. No reason for hogsters to quiz you about your subject matter or the contents of your kit. Ignore all that BS.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

jimpitt wrote:

Many professionals have said I am wasting my $'s with having two full frame zooms for a D-500 D format.
Am considering selling the two lenses for one D, maybe an 18-300 zoom.
Is it a waste?
Or should I replace the body instead with an 850?
Ideas?

I have a D500 and a D850. I love both of them equally, like my two kids! You asked about getting rid of the D500 and replacing with the D850. I would never do that! But I would suggest getting the D850! if you can swing it! GREAT camera and wouldn't trade it for two mirrorless cameras!

I think your advisor is torn between giving good advice and getting some more money from you! Nah...that would never happen!

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flip1948 wrote:

How do you equate a 20.9mp DX camera to a 45mp FX camera?

When the results look equal, then the results are equal. As to non equal results, either camera might prove better for any of various needs. Pixel count more often than not means nothing.

jimpitt

you have it reversed.
the issue is f lenses on a d body.
the "waste" is a full frame lens not being fully utilized ..... wasted money according to the salesman (same vendor retailer as where purchased)

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

jimpitt wrote:

bill_de
lenses:
28-300 1.35-56g
and 16-35 1.4g
which I thought was a good match at the time two yrs ago.
The same retailer where I purchased these now says I am wasting my money. Says 18-300 D format would be better for me as one lens.
My unhappiness with results is likely more related to autofocus issues which are currently above my expertise. I have studied the manual and still confused.
Bill ... Thanks for your comment.

Get Steve Perry’s book on the Nikon AF system.

jimpitt

that is valuable infor. i will not make any changes at this point.
thanks.

photoman43

I have a Nikon D 500 and all the lenses I use with it are full frame Nikon lenses. I also own a D850, but that is not why my lenses are all full frame. Most Nikon prime telephotos are made for full frame bodies: 300mm f4 and longer. But any full frame lens can be used on a DX body.

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

jimpitt wrote:

thanks.
the point i hear here is that a d lens on a f body is ok.
and not wasted.
thanks.

1) If you click "quote reply" under the post you are responding to as I did here, we can tell who you are addressing.
2) A DX lens on an FX body would cause vignetting if the camera didn't switch modes. However, switching to crop mode throws out the contribution of 56% of the pixels. That would reduce the pixel count of a 24 MP Nikon down to ~11 MP. If that is OK with the user, well...

Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx

flip1948 wrote:

How do you equate a 20.9mp DX camera to a 45mp FX camera?

The D850 and D500 have the same AF system from the D5. Their menu system is almost identical. They feel and handle the same. They are twinsies. If you put the D850 in DX mode, it becomes a 19.4mp camera, but the viewfinder still shows the full 45.7mp frame, so be careful to stay in the lines. The D850 does have focus stacking and focus peaking that the D500 doesn't have. So I keep the D500 for it's 1.5x crop factor at a 7% higher pixel density compared to the D850, but I dearly love both cameras and they have served me well.

I will admit I am starting to leave the D850 home and put the Z9 in my backpack while birding. The animal eye tracking and IBIS in the Z9 has improved my keeper rate. The D850 sensor IQ is rated a bit higher than the Z9 sensor. I use the D850 for static subjects including landscapes and portraiture, but when things are in motion, the Z9 is a better choice.

Toment Loc: FL, IL

jimpitt wrote:

bill_de
lenses:
28-300 1.35-56g
and 16-35 1.4g
which I thought was a good match at the time two yrs ago.
The same retailer where I purchased these now says I am wasting my money. Says 18-300 D format would be better for me as one lens.
My unhappiness with results is likely more related to autofocus issues which are currently above my expertise. I have studied the manual and still confused.
Bill ... Thanks for your comment.

Good choices..keep them!

stan0301 Loc: Colorado

jimpitt wrote:

Many professionals have said I am wasting my $'s with having two full frame zooms for a D-500 D format.
Am considering selling the two lenses for one D, maybe an 18-300 zoom.
Is it a waste?
Or should I replace the body instead with an 850?
Ideas?

- the inner workings of the D500 are little short of meticulous - I have both, and nearly always reach for the D500 - not knowing the zoom ratios it is hard to say - I travel with an 8-16, and a 16-300 -

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

Bill_de wrote:

.BTW - a full frame lens on a D500 can be a plus. Your camera is ignoring the outermost part of the lenses, meaning it is ignoring the softest part. That's usually a good thing.

There may be lenses that do not suffer in this scenario, but I suspect most do. When viewing identical images to the same size, of FF & crop sensors, the crop is enlarged more than the FF. Any advantage, if any, more often than not, is lost.

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Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH

I used a Mamiya 150mm f3.5 prime on a D800 and was completely satisfied and sometimes added a Nikon TK-14B/ 1.4 teleconverter and was astonished with the results. Photos looked 3-D. I'll look in my files and send you a sample.