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Forty Three Senate Republicans Vote to Block Cap on Insulin Costs
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Aug 8, 2022 06:11:14   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Why?

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Aug 8, 2022 06:26:01   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
I think possible campaign funding might be a reason—just a hunch.

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Aug 8, 2022 06:34:16   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
Because insulin costs the producer about $75 for a 90 day supply. The producer charges the patient $2,300 for the same 90 day supply.

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Aug 8, 2022 08:17:28   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Why?


Here's your answer. It didn't pass because of a technicality.

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Aug 8, 2022 08:23:35   #
jcboy3
 
JRiepe wrote:
Here's your answer. It didn't pass because of a technicality.


I don't think so. The cap was in the original bill, but the Parliamentarian ruled against it (that is the technicality). So Democrats offered an amendment to put it back in. Because that amendment was not a reconciliation, it had to pass with 60 votes. Only 7 Republican Senators voted for it, so it didn't pass.

I've not seen any justification from the Republican Senators for why they voted against it. Seems more like political spite, but the result is dead diabetic patients that can't afford their insulin.

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Aug 8, 2022 08:55:00   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
MikeMck wrote:
Because insulin costs the producer about $75 for a 90 day supply. The producer charges the patient $2,300 for the same 90 day supply.


What kind of insulin?

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Aug 8, 2022 09:48:40   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I don't think so. The cap was in the original bill, but the Parliamentarian ruled against it (that is the technicality). So Democrats offered an amendment to put it back in. Because that amendment was not a reconciliation, it had to pass with 60 votes. Only 7 Republican Senators voted for it, so it didn't pass.

I've not seen any justification from the Republican Senators for why they voted against it. Seems more like political spite, but the result is dead diabetic patients that can't afford their insulin.
I don't think so. The cap was in the original bil... (show quote)


Well, I hope a bill will pass to help the diabetics with their insulin costs. I wasn't upholding their decision just offering a link as to why. I don't know enough about congressional rules to know if they did the right thing or not. But I don't think it was from political spite.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:04:21   #
jcboy3
 
JRiepe wrote:
Well, I hope a bill will pass to help the diabetics with their insulin costs. I wasn't upholding their decision just offering a link as to why. I don't know enough about congressional rules to know if they did the right thing or not. But I don't think it was from political spite.


Your post did not include a link. This article discusses the issue:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3591586-democrats-fail-to-overrule-parliamentarian-on-insulin-price-cap-as-gop-votes-no/

The argument from Republicans: they didn't want to override the parliamentarian. This has been an issue for quite a while, and the Republicans have not offered any bills to fix the problem. It could have been handled, once again the didn't want to do it. Their cover this time might be that they don't want to "set a precedent for overriding the Parliamentarian", but it takes 60 votes to do so, so it would be business as usual.

Bottom line; Republicans are not willing to stop the price gouging on insulin that is going on.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:21:06   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Your post did not include a link. This article discusses the issue:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3591586-democrats-fail-to-overrule-parliamentarian-on-insulin-price-cap-as-gop-votes-no/

The argument from Republicans: they didn't want to override the parliamentarian. This has been an issue for quite a while, and the Republicans have not offered any bills to fix the problem. It could have been handled, once again the didn't want to do it. Their cover this time might be that they don't want to "set a precedent for overriding the Parliamentarian", but it takes 60 votes to do so, so it would be business as usual.

Bottom line; Republicans are not willing to stop the price gouging on insulin that is going on.
Your post did not include a link. This article di... (show quote)


It's all a Democrat politic stunt for the 2022 election.

“We’re going to force them to vote no and put them on the record,” said one Democratic senator before the vote.."

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Aug 8, 2022 10:21:46   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
Both short acting and long-acting insulin retail for the same price and cost the same to manufacture.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:26:47   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
MikeMck wrote:
Both short acting and long-acting insulin retail for the same price and cost the same to manufacture.


Same should be done to all expensive medications, dang even blood pressure meds are outrageously expensive.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:31:03   #
jcboy3
 
Racmanaz wrote:
It's all a Democrat politic stunt for the 2022 election.

“We’re going to force them to vote no and put them on the record,” said one Democratic senator before the vote.."


Republicans made it so by voting against the cap. They could have voted for it. They could have submitted a bill to consider it separately. It could have been solved long ago.

No, it's not a political stunt. It's an attempt to solve a long standing problem that is hurting real people.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:31:40   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Your post did not include a link. This article discusses the issue:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3591586-democrats-fail-to-overrule-parliamentarian-on-insulin-price-cap-as-gop-votes-no/

The argument from Republicans: they didn't want to override the parliamentarian. This has been an issue for quite a while, and the Republicans have not offered any bills to fix the problem. It could have been handled, once again the didn't want to do it. Their cover this time might be that they don't want to "set a precedent for overriding the Parliamentarian", but it takes 60 votes to do so, so it would be business as usual.

Bottom line; Republicans are not willing to stop the price gouging on insulin that is going on.
Your post did not include a link. This article di... (show quote)


Oh you are so right. I forgot to add the link.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:33:55   #
Triple G
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Republicans made it so by voting against the cap. They could have voted for it. They could have submitted a bill to consider it separately. It could have been solved long ago.

No, it's not a political stunt. It's an attempt to solve a long standing problem that is hurting real people.


Same thing with EPI pens and compounded drugs. Maintenance drugs for hypertension, thyroid, and cholesterol have many competitors and generics so they may not need additional price restrictions.

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Aug 8, 2022 10:36:50   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
Racmanaz wrote:
It's all a Democrat politic stunt for the 2022 election.

“We’re going to force them to vote no and put them on the record,” said one Democratic senator before the vote.."


That's the way it looks to me. The same as the veterans benefit bill. They're using tactics to make the Republicans look like incompassionate people to shore up more votes in the mid term elections and the sad thing is it may just work when you consider all the voting veterans and diabetics.

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