Outdoor Photography, June July (Page 4): Why film? You may think otherwise, but I'm not an impressionable fool, easily swayed by comments on the internet ... Nor do I deny the superior...

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

b top gun wrote:

I "had" a Nikon Z6 II for about ten days... (show quote)

Why film? You may think otherwise, but I'm not an impressionable fool, easily swayed by comments on the internet ... Nor do I deny the superior capabilities and enabling technologies of mirrorless cameras.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Wallen wrote:

DSLR users are idiots.

You said it. Not me. Not never.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

elliott937 wrote:

I know this is going to upset some, but I'm eager ... (show quote)

My first digital mirrorless camera, the E-M5 back in 2011, and other new cheap cameras now are possibly displaying some of these mentioned characteristics. Even my new "old" E-M1 mkIII has none of these problems although I would like a higher pixel count viewfinder like the OM-1. The author of the article is probably just lamenting the fact that new cheap cameras don't have the better features of the top of the line cameras at $2200 and more.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

camshot wrote:

Mirrorless cameras all have a fault, often if you try to focus on a distant subject, it will focus on the further distance
and lock on. To change it, you have to point the camera at a close subject, quickly touch for focus and quickly try to refocus on your subject. Such as focusing on, say the eye of a deer, it often jumps to the distance beyond the subject, and locks. From what I understand this is a problem with all mirrorless cameras.

Have not had that prob with Panasonic models M4/3 from 2008 until now.

Now that DSLRs are being officially dropped there seems to be a lot of sour grapes about.

Otterbug

I had amirrorless camera once. Think it was called a Brownie Starmite!

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Otterbug wrote:

I had amirrorless camera once. Think it was called a Brownie Starmite!

I suppose you now have a Brownie Box.

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Delderby wrote:

Have not had that prob with Panasonic models M4/3 from 2008 until now.

Now that DSLRs are being officially dropped there seems to be a lot of sour grapes about.

Well you gotta admit, batteries do run longer in SLRs, plus all those other advantages like ... uhmnnn ... always seeing thru the finder even when you forget to turn it on ! And lets not ignore how an SLR is better at ... uhhhnm ... that other stuff that SLRs are better at like mmmnnnnn .... more space to put buttons on the back and important advantages like ... uh, mmnn ... the mirror !!! Yeah, the mirror. So cool, that mirror.

rfarris1 Loc: Maryland, USA

I have both a mirrorless (Canon M50) and a DSLR (Canon 90D). There are times when I prefer one over the other. I took a trip to Europe and used the M50, because it was lighter and easier to carry around. But I have had focusing problems with it that I don't think I would have had with 90D. An example is photographing the ocean, I find the camera hunts for a focal point. For action and sports I want the DSLR. Other times like photography down low, I like the M50 as it has an articulated screen which makes it easier to those shots. I am 74 and don't get up and down easily anymore. I will continue to use both. I think I saw a statement put out by Nikon that they would continue to produce DSLR. Hopefully so will Canon. I wish the lens manufacturers would do the same. I seems like the only new lens from Sigma and Tamron are for Sony and Leica mirrorless cameras.

redlegfrog

jackm1943 wrote:

I purchased a mirrorless several months ago primar... (show quote)

Something causing your camera to get a static charge and drawing the dirt in?

druthven

CHG_CANON wrote:

Possibly, it's not changing lenses but the lack of 'seals' for the lens and / or camera, probably both. Therefore, just using the camera is the issue, not your changing lens actions. I'm thinking this design flaw will be corrected by all the players as soon as possible, lest there is any lessening of the MILC onslaught.

I realize that even with the advantages of MILC's you have aptly described in the past, you have given everyone a solid reason to not buy a MILC at this time.

bertloomis Loc: Fort Worth, Texas

elliott937 wrote:

I know this is going to upset some, but I'm eager ... (show quote)

I much prefer an optical view finder. Early in the game when using an EVF I found that in a picture of a flower, a reed very close to the camera and out of focus across the frame. I did not see it in the EVF. Of course if you looked very, very closely you could see it in the EVF. But it was not obvious as it would have been in an optical finder.

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rfarris1 wrote:

I have both a mirrorless (Canon M50) and a DSLR (... (show quote)

SLR users are pretty much done building their kits ... or at least they *should* be.

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bertloomis wrote:

I much prefer an optical view finder. Early in the game when using an EVF I found that in a picture of a flower, a reed very close to the camera and out of focus across the frame. I did not see it in the EVF. Of course if you looked very, very closely you could see it in the EVF. But it was not obvious as it would have been in an optical finder.

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SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Wallen wrote:

True. The advert and write-ups are basically sayin... (show quote)

Why is it that when some of us tout the advantages of mirrorless you take it so personally. I talk about the advantages because having shot both I have the experience. There’s no flaunting. I don’t see anybody calling people shooting DSLR’s idiots. Now I’ll agree with Paul, (who touts the advantages of mirrorless but also still shoots his Canon DSLR’s and film), that paying new camera prices for DSLR’s in today’s market is not the smartest. He also questions people about what they’re not getting out of their already excellent equipment that makes them want to upgrade. Yes your DSLR is a fine camera and will hopefully serve you well for many years, but for anybody looking to buy a new camera I would question them not taking a good look at mirrorless.
I also disagree with your assessment of camera companies sabotaging new models to make you buy a “preferred” model. That makes no sense. Companies make products they think consumers want. I had a D7200. It was a fine camera. Yes it could be used professionally although most pros I know shoot FF. It’s currently serving my nephew well. As for the D7500 it’s just as usable as the D7200. It does have a little less resolution, (same as the D500), and only one card slot, but in every other aspect is an improvement on the D7200. Now I never would have upgraded to the D7500 because it wasn’t enough difference. I went to a D500 for the faster focus and frame rate and huge buffer. Things I couldn’t get in the D7XX line. Now I’ve since sold that because my Nikon gear is all FF, (and Z mount), and I found my Olympus M4/3 gear to be better than the D500 for wildlife.

jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America

bertloomis wrote:

I much prefer an optical view finder. Early in the game when using an EVF I found that in a picture of a flower, a reed very close to the camera and out of focus across the frame. I did not see it in the EVF. Of course if you looked very, very closely you could see it in the EVF. But it was not obvious as it would have been in an optical finder.

Can you magnify X10 with a button press on a OVF? I believe not.
I can with my EVF... I can even pixel peep on the EVF