CHG_CANON wrote:
Where's the secret decoder ring for the Nikon alphabet soup? Like AF-I vs AF-P vs AF-S vs AF vs AIs vs AF-D?? How about FX vs DX vs D vs G vs S vs E? Did I miss any letters?
The craziest thing about that first chart is all the Limited Compatibility cells and the multiple and various qualifiers. Look at their newest AF-P technology, and note all the cameras with explicit "Not Compatible" assessments. Backwards compatibility used to be Nikon's strength, but now it's Canon's.
If I see it correctly, only the MIGHTY D500 is compatible with all the lenses in the first chart & I see no D designation. I'm not that familiar having only newer F mount lenses so maybe they fall into one of the categories listed.
tcthome wrote:
If I see it correctly, only the MIGHTY D500 is compatible with all the lenses in the first chart & I see no D designation. I'm not that familiar having only newer F mount lenses so maybe they fall into one of the categories listed.
D or non D doesn't cause incompatibility issue. Without the D the focus distance isn't available to the camera which it uses in some metering situations but not cause it to not work.
Ctrclckws wrote:
AI - Aperture Indexed. These lenses usually have an aperture ring. They can Manual focus, or AF, or AF-D.
AF - screw drive autofocus
AF-D screw drive autofocus, with distance encoding
AF-S Lens motor autofocus, includes distance encoding
AF-P Lens motor autofocus, but a different type of motor (pulse)
E-type refers to the aperture control, it's electronic, not mechanical and only newer bodies support it.
G lenses do not have an aperture ring
There was a lot of effort to maintain some degree of compatibility from the original F-mount of 1959.
Canon decided to do a clean break from prior mounts when they created the EOS specification.
Which approach is better? Probably like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder.
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The switch worked as it made Canon the preimmient choice of pros around the world.
And because of that decision 35 years ago virtually no one remembers that there was anything else except for very old people.
That change now allows you to seamlessly use all your EF and EF-S lenses seamlessly.
And the RF mount allows all the old people to now use their FD, FL, R and M39 on their R cameras.
Bottom line NO issues as EF and EF-S is all compatible with the bonus of old non EOS lenses being easily used.
CHG_CANON wrote:
You wouldn't see a chart like above for Canon EOS technology.
Did Canon's mount change affect customers in a negative way?
At the time, there was a backlash, since the older mounts were incompatible with the newer EOS mount.
Had to buy all new lenses if you got a new camera, etc.
rangel28 wrote:
Did Canon's mount change affect customers in a negative way?
Absolutely not.
In fact they mostly all embraced it and a huge chunk of Nikon users did and other systems like Minolta.
That is why Canon is number one in sales and Nikon is competing with Olympus for third or fourth place in sales today.
Canon users are more progressive and saw the huge superiority of the EOS over anything else in the market that Canon held that huge lead for at least 25 years.
rangel28 wrote:
Did Canon's mount change affect customers in a negative way?
What is negative? For who?
The company went from middle of the pack to the worldwide market leader for 30+ years. Canon today maintains a larger market share than their next two competitors combined (Sony and Nikon).
The customers can use original 1987 EOS lenses on 2022 mirrorless cameras with no loss of functionality. Many think the mirrorless technology can even focus every SLR / DSLR lenses better than ever. Certainly, every legacy EF / EF-S lens benefits from digital corrections, literally making the lens better today than any day in the past.
Moreover, those non electronic manual focus lenses that were 'deplatformed' in 1987 when Canon changed to EOS technology, those lenses too now have a happy home on EOS mirrorless bodies, enabled by modern mirrorless features and high resolution sensors.
The caterpillar thought it was the end of the world. But then, it was handed a Canon and became a butterfly.
HELP!
I was just gifted a Nikon FG film Camera for my birthday. It came with 3 [LEGACY?] E series lenses
[That work with it]
I am trying to use the 50 mm. F1:1.8 with my Nikon D3100. Some chart I found [on UHH] shows compatability, but the D3100 is showing no lens.
I would like to use this as I have no Prime Lens for my D3100, only ZOOM lenses which are far slower.
Is there a setting in the Camera I need to adjust?
Confusion: Is there more that 1 E series in Nikon Lenses?
delder wrote:
HELP!
I was just gifted a Nikon FG film Camera for my birthday. It came with 3 [LEGACY?] E series lenses
[That work with it]
I am trying to use the 50 mm. F1:1.8 with my Nikon D3100. Some chart I found [on UHH] shows compatability, but the D3100 is showing no lens.
I would like to use this as I have no Prime Lens for my D3100, only ZOOM lenses which are far slower.
Is there a setting in the Camera I need to adjust?
Confusion: Is there more that 1 E series in Nikon Lenses?
It shows no lens but you can still take a picture with it. Don't expect the display to display anything makes sense. You will have to set the aperture and shutter speed yourself. The meter doesn't work.
BebuLamar wrote:
It shows no lens but you can still take a picture with it. Don't expect the display to display anything makes sense. You will have to set the aperture and shutter speed yourself. The meter doesn't work.
Thank you! Put it in manual, jacked up the ISO to 800
[default only 100]
And I'm getting pictures!
delder wrote:
HELP!
I was just gifted a Nikon FG film Camera for my birthday. It came with 3 [LEGACY?] E series lenses
[That work with it]
I am trying to use the 50 mm. F1:1.8 with my Nikon D3100. Some chart I found [on UHH] shows compatability, but the D3100 is showing no lens.
I would like to use this as I have no Prime Lens for my D3100, only ZOOM lenses which are far slower.
Is there a setting in the Camera I need to adjust?
Confusion: Is there more that 1 E series in Nikon Lenses?
Series E lenses have no electronic communication so the DSLRs won't recognize them as present.
Some models have a lens setting where you can tell the camera what is mounted. You may get some metering help that way.
At any rate, treat it like a full manual lens.
Series E are AI capable, but I don't know if the camera is
Go full manual and learn what happens when you change aperture, shutter speed , and ISO.
delder wrote:
HELP!
I was just gifted a Nikon FG film Camera for my birthday. It came with 3 [LEGACY?] E series lenses
[That work with it]
I am trying to use the 50 mm. F1:1.8 with my Nikon D3100. Some chart I found [on UHH] shows compatability, but the D3100 is showing no lens.
I would like to use this as I have no Prime Lens for my D3100, only ZOOM lenses which are far slower.
Is there a setting in the Camera I need to adjust?
Confusion: Is there more that 1 E series in Nikon Lenses?
It will attach.
No meter or other such functions.
You just guess and then look at the photo and adjust until it comes out close enough.
Delder....yes the E is confusing. The series E that you have were a limited run of less expensive consumer grade lenes produced around 1979 or 1980 along with the EM body. As mentioned by others, think of them as ai lenses for compatibility purposes. The chart in this thread is less than comprehensive. The E lenses it refers to are the very recent autofocus line with Electronic aperture driven connections.
For better information on compatibilities go to Ken Rockwell's site. Close your eyes and disregard most of his opinions. As to this issue he is reliable.
Orphoto wrote:
Delder....yes the E is confusing. The series E that you have were a limited run of less expensive consumer grade lenes produced around 1979 or 1980 along with the EM body. As mentioned by others, think of them as ai lenses for compatibility purposes. The chart in this thread is less than comprehensive. The E lenses it refers to are the very recent autofocus line with Electronic aperture driven connections.
For better information on compatibilities go to Ken Rockwell's site. Close your eyes and disregard most of his opinions. As to this issue he is reliable.
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The E series lenses are compatible with the Nikon AI/S lenses. Unlike the Nikon AI or AI/S lenses they don't have the prong for the meter system on pre AI camera bodies.
BebuLamar wrote:
The E series lenses are compatible with the Nikon AI/S lenses. Unlike the Nikon AI or AI/S lenses they don't have the prong for the meter system on pre AI camera bodies.
Right! That is EXACTLY what I have, and I am now using the 50mm in MANUAL to good effect.
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