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Jul 18, 2022 09:49:46   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
I have used it a couple of times recently outdoors on a butterfly & a bird in the shade. Worked quite well. Waiting for LR import from an external drive to load the samples. Will edit reply in a few.

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Jul 18, 2022 10:35:14   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
There are several pop-up flash diffusers on the market to help with lighting quality.
Interesting article here: http://aboutphotography-tomgrill.blogspot.com/p/lighting-using-pop-up-flash.html
You do lose power, but when used close to the subject, they will be better than a straight, unmodified flash.
Model #2 proves bigger is better- read the article.



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Jul 18, 2022 10:45:35   #
St.Mary's
 
Thanks for the good examples I do miss the popup flash for just such occasions.

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Jul 18, 2022 11:27:40   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
tcthome wrote:
I have used it a couple of times recently outdoors on a butterfly & a bird in the shade. Worked quite well. Waiting for LR import from an external drive to load the samples. Will edit reply in a few.


Before this I have only viewed the attached when culling in Fastone Image Viewer & have looked fine. Upon importing them into LR6, as others have mentioned I had to lower the Exposure & Highlights. Butterfly wasn't bad at all but the bird photo quite a bit. Only my second time using it in 6 yrs (the first time was a flower & I adjusted the flash manually) & like the others have said, Dial down the comp if you have time. I checked the exif data. =ttl. The bird without flash, auto iso at 1400. Iwas surprised to learn & would of thought the camera would of dropped the iso knowing the pop-up flash was on & set to ttl. Not so & the iso increased to 1600. The iso was the reason I used the pop-up in the first place. Hopefully before I shoot next time I'll lower the built in flash a half stop as mentioned.









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Jul 18, 2022 12:05:06   #
idrabefi Loc: Michigan
 
I love the pop up flash and use it all the time - as a trigger to my remote flash.

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Jul 18, 2022 12:15:54   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
idrabefi wrote:
I love the pop up flash and use it all the time - as a trigger to my remote flash.


I tried that a few times but a radio trigger/receiver combo works much better. Doesn’t have to be direct line of sight and reaches out a long long way.

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Jul 18, 2022 12:30:58   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Longshadow wrote:
I sometimes use it for fill outdoors.


When I had a camera with a pop up flash I would use it only two or three times per year and it was always for fill outdoors.

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Jul 18, 2022 13:00:32   #
photoman43
 
A pop up flash can be useful to add a punch of light when needed. Just make sure your lens and lens hood is not blocking its "path" to the subject. I would use it mostly by setting flash exposure compensation and rear curtain or second curtain synch so the flash goes off at the end of the ambient exposure.

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Jul 18, 2022 15:44:38   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Sometimes a pop-up flash is better than no flash at all.

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Jul 18, 2022 15:56:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:
I sometimes use it for fill outdoors.


In bright sun, the pop-up flash can be useful for fill when working close to the camera with backlit subjects.

I generally don't like flash EXCEPT for fill outdoors, or when working in a studio with a full complement of flash heads and light modifiers (umbrellas, soft boxes, reflectors, scrims, gobos...). But sometimes it is a necessary evil.

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Jul 18, 2022 17:00:18   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
gvarner wrote:
I know, I know, the common comment is to never use it so let’s get beyond that. I see it as a useful tool for beginners to get into using flash. Most of what I’ve learned is about using it as a fill flash outdoors in bright contrasty light. Full disclosure, I haven’t tried any of these techniques myself but am determined to do so. Your thoughts on camera shooting modes, TTL vs manual flash, and other settings would be appreciated. I’d like to stay away from using reflectors and diffusers for now, just a direct flash discussion.
I know, I know, the common comment is to never use... (show quote)


I love my pop up flashes, come in handy all the time.

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Jul 21, 2022 16:17:11   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
"Fill flash" (especially outdoors) is one of the important lessons I learned when taking a class on "how to use your SLR" in 1984. My recommendation is to shoot a before/after to really understand the difference it can make. My instructor was impressed that I was the only one in our class who thought to do that


I use my flash often for my outdoor photos.
They are not very good for taking pictures of people, but they are very useful for other items.
I have learned to never trust anything that was never or always. Always test is the one thing that I believe.

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