B&Ws Need Critqueing and Some Help....
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......
Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
janislewis wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......
Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
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Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......
coco1964 wrote:
janislewis wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......
Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
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Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......
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These are wonderful monochrome shots, the dont need any adjustment aprt from kicking up the contrast a tad.
Love them great "presence"
Ian
The Ugly member "TAD" must get sick of us saying just a Tad
This I just added a touch of contrat barely disernable. Tilde 531 would do a better job though. If you not getting dinner ready Tilde, this man could do with your new Paint Shop Pro expertise.
Ian
coco1964 wrote:
Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......
I'll bite on tweaking one or two... but as Ian has already said... it certainly won't take much!
These are very nice!!
P.S.
AHHHHHH!
Nevermind! "The Master" has beaten me to it!! *BIG grins*
Love it!! :thumbup:
ianhargraves1066 wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
janislewis wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......
Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
quote=coco1964 These have been converted from col... (
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Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......
quote=janislewis quote=coco1964 These have been ... (
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These are wonderful monochrome shots, the dont need any adjustment aprt from kicking up the contrast a tad.
Love them great "presence"
Ian
The Ugly member "TAD" must get sick of us saying just a Tad
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Thanks, but when I look at other B&Ws they seem to be so much darker. If I push the contrast it seems to make the light colors wash out........
steve40
Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
Maybe something like this.
steve40 wrote:
Maybe something like this.
Yes I like---did you do that with contrast settings, shadows, fill light??
Since Ian did the other one... I chose to try THIS one
Nevermind.
I see you prefer it MUCH darker in the offering someone else beat me to! *snickers*
This one won't do it for ya.
your original
tweaked
Liking THIS one better! You!?
tilde531 wrote:
Since Ian did the other one... I chose to try THIS one
Nevermind.
I see you prefer it MUCH darker in the offering someone else beat me to! *snickers*
This one won't do it for ya.
Thanks for another perspective and taking the time----now there's 3 others to work on, ha ha.............
I used Picassa as well... in fact, it's the FIRST of usually THREE programs I use to help me edit multiple problems.
Usually, to pump up B&W better, I try the "I'm feeling Lucky
button first. If I don't like it... I go to the tab that offers "sharpen" and sharpen first... then the saturation a bit... THEN move to the "Tuning" tab and if highlights adjustment or fill light adjustment doesn't do it for ya... go to the last slider down and slide towards the "cool" side (Left) until you like it.
THAT usually does it!
Watch out for too much noise though (as I have to use another program to smooth all that out nicely without losing too much detail... another mess entirely lol)
(and I DO know what you mean by "darker". You don't mean ALL OVER darkened you mean a greater range of black to white with multiple shades of grey in between in the same photos... a greater tonal spread, right!?)
I gave it what I would do to them, there really to small to do much with. I would shoot in raw, convert to B & W. I like mine right on the edge of being over sharp with HDR look & feel. I like high contrast but that's just me. It's something you have to make your own. Hope this helps.
I played with one of the photos as well. In Photoshop I used curves, contrast, levels, sharpen, brush tool, and placed a 2px black border around the photo. As always, I've removed from my PC your photo after this posting. Here's my edit for review:
original
edited
Pentax-K10D wrote:
I gave it what I would do to them, there really to small to do much with. I would shoot in raw, convert to B & W. I like mine right on the edge of being over sharp with HDR look & feel. I like high contrast but that's just me. It's something you have to make your own. Hope this helps.
I like the 1st ones, last is too light for me. Thanks for your time and help........
Thanks all for you're input. Now my next question is where can I get some of these inhancement programs. NO Photoshop, can't afford it and would never comprehend how to use it. Looking for something free and easy to use especially on B&Ws.............
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