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Nov 16, 2011 15:54:43   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......









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Nov 16, 2011 16:05:31   #
janislewis Loc: New Mexico
 
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......

Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.

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Nov 16, 2011 16:12:21   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
janislewis wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......

Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
quote=coco1964 These have been converted from col... (show quote)
Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......

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Nov 16, 2011 16:33:45   #
ianhargraves1066 Loc: NEW SMYRNA BEACH, Florida
 
coco1964 wrote:
janislewis wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......

Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
quote=coco1964 These have been converted from col... (show quote)
Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......
quote=janislewis quote=coco1964 These have been ... (show quote)


These are wonderful monochrome shots, the dont need any adjustment aprt from kicking up the contrast a tad.

Love them great "presence"

Ian

The Ugly member "TAD" must get sick of us saying just a Tad


This I just added a touch of contrat barely disernable. Tilde 531 would do a better job though. If you not getting dinner ready Tilde, this man could do with your new Paint Shop Pro expertise.

Ian



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Nov 16, 2011 16:38:00   #
tilde531 Loc: Seaford Delaware
 
coco1964 wrote:
Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......


I'll bite on tweaking one or two... but as Ian has already said... it certainly won't take much!
These are very nice!!


P.S.
AHHHHHH!
Nevermind! "The Master" has beaten me to it!! *BIG grins*
Love it!! :thumbup:

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Nov 16, 2011 16:40:13   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
ianhargraves1066 wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
janislewis wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
These have been converted from color and seem to have problem with the whites in the sky and the dark spot in the upper left. No PS because I only have Picassa 3 so that's what I have to work with. Also the spots that get very white like the roofs on the buildings or at times the roads because where these were shot they use white shale rock for their dirt roads and drives. Please feel free to critique and give suggestions......

Have you tried HDR photography. These would be perfect images for HDR. You would get your contrast you are looking for and do away with the blown out highlights.
quote=coco1964 These have been converted from col... (show quote)
Trying to stay away from it but may have to look into it since that's what everone is using. How did people take good photos before HDR??? Feel free to play with them if you like......
quote=janislewis quote=coco1964 These have been ... (show quote)


These are wonderful monochrome shots, the dont need any adjustment aprt from kicking up the contrast a tad.

Love them great "presence"

Ian

The Ugly member "TAD" must get sick of us saying just a Tad
quote=coco1964 quote=janislewis quote=coco1964 ... (show quote)
Thanks, but when I look at other B&Ws they seem to be so much darker. If I push the contrast it seems to make the light colors wash out........

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Nov 16, 2011 16:44:48   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
Maybe something like this.



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Nov 16, 2011 16:48:37   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
steve40 wrote:
Maybe something like this.
Yes I like---did you do that with contrast settings, shadows, fill light??

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Nov 16, 2011 17:01:20   #
tilde531 Loc: Seaford Delaware
 
Since Ian did the other one... I chose to try THIS one

Nevermind.
I see you prefer it MUCH darker in the offering someone else beat me to! *snickers*
This one won't do it for ya.

your original
your original...

tweaked
tweaked...

Liking THIS one better! You!?
Liking THIS one better! You!?...

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Nov 16, 2011 17:11:20   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
tilde531 wrote:
Since Ian did the other one... I chose to try THIS one

Nevermind.
I see you prefer it MUCH darker in the offering someone else beat me to! *snickers*
This one won't do it for ya.
Thanks for another perspective and taking the time----now there's 3 others to work on, ha ha.............

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Nov 16, 2011 17:32:09   #
tilde531 Loc: Seaford Delaware
 
I used Picassa as well... in fact, it's the FIRST of usually THREE programs I use to help me edit multiple problems.

Usually, to pump up B&W better, I try the "I'm feeling Lucky
button first. If I don't like it... I go to the tab that offers "sharpen" and sharpen first... then the saturation a bit... THEN move to the "Tuning" tab and if highlights adjustment or fill light adjustment doesn't do it for ya... go to the last slider down and slide towards the "cool" side (Left) until you like it.

THAT usually does it!
Watch out for too much noise though (as I have to use another program to smooth all that out nicely without losing too much detail... another mess entirely lol)

(and I DO know what you mean by "darker". You don't mean ALL OVER darkened you mean a greater range of black to white with multiple shades of grey in between in the same photos... a greater tonal spread, right!?)

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Nov 16, 2011 17:38:19   #
Pentax-K10D Loc: Denver, Co
 
I gave it what I would do to them, there really to small to do much with. I would shoot in raw, convert to B & W. I like mine right on the edge of being over sharp with HDR look & feel. I like high contrast but that's just me. It's something you have to make your own. Hope this helps.









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Nov 16, 2011 18:45:55   #
AK Dreamer Loc: Alaska & Nevada
 
I played with one of the photos as well. In Photoshop I used curves, contrast, levels, sharpen, brush tool, and placed a 2px black border around the photo. As always, I've removed from my PC your photo after this posting. Here's my edit for review:

original
original...

edited
edited...

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Nov 16, 2011 18:49:08   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Pentax-K10D wrote:
I gave it what I would do to them, there really to small to do much with. I would shoot in raw, convert to B & W. I like mine right on the edge of being over sharp with HDR look & feel. I like high contrast but that's just me. It's something you have to make your own. Hope this helps.
I like the 1st ones, last is too light for me. Thanks for your time and help........

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Nov 16, 2011 18:53:43   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Thanks all for you're input. Now my next question is where can I get some of these inhancement programs. NO Photoshop, can't afford it and would never comprehend how to use it. Looking for something free and easy to use especially on B&Ws.............

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