f8lee wrote:
Incorrect, kimosabe, in that this entire discussion has to do with the ownership (or lack thereof) of said product.
After the 1960's, nobody (individual or company) that paid for software owned the software - just the right to use it. So the subscription model is a different payment plan, and it is in vogue for the reasons I already stated.
Bear in mind that this is at all levels - SAP and Microsoft now sell their multi-million dollar ERP software as subscriptions, for much the same reasons.
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"Ownership"? Software is one of the products that are sold not completely tested. It is expected to fail with the end users being the tell tales. We won't go into actual program ownership.
Like it or not, the only product that we can claim complete ownership is what we ingest. But then, there can be some costs in processing the end results. All large ticket properties can be levied ad-valorem taxes, making the local jurisdiction a unwanted ownership partner. Even property owners with released bank papers still have the various taxes demanded monthly making the jurisdictions partners ad infinitum.
A side stream event that is interesting to follow. The "ownership" of farm equipment that use computers. If one is interested in checking them out, there are many blurbs even on YouTube.
I don't care to delve further in this direction.
jerryc41 wrote:
True, but it would be nice to use the advice from the GoPro package. I would be willing to give Adobe a lump sum payment, but they don't want it. They could offer the subscription for those who want or need constant updates, and they could offer it buy-it-once deal for those who just want the program.
I agree with you completely! I have Lightroom 6 and refuse to go beyond that until they give us another option besides the subscription.
Longshadow wrote:
Yup, boils down to driving to work in a Civic, Lamborghini, or a Rolls.
but I don't work with photography just play.
BebuLamar wrote:
but I don't work with photography just play.
So you walk to work then?
Longshadow wrote:
So you walk to work then?
I drive to work and you can't compare that with anything to do with photography. I would do almost anything to have a car but if money is tight I won't have no camera nor software. Photography is for fun and it's not something I must have.
BebuLamar wrote:
I drive to work and you can't compare that with anything to do with photography. I would do almost anything to have a car but if money is tight I won't have no camera nor software. Photography is for fun and it's not something I must have.
It was a innuendo.
Civic, cheap editor, .....
Longshadow wrote:
It was a innuendo.
Civic, cheap editor, .....
And certainly a Civic is more than a good enough car for me. However not software or camera. As I said if money is tight I won't have them but I won't settle for anything less than what I want in term of my toys. I much rather not having them than having ones that I don't really want.
BebuLamar wrote:
And certainly a Civic is more than a good enough car for me. However not software or camera. As I said if money is tight I won't have them but I won't settle for anything less than what I want in term of my toys. I much rather not having them than having ones that I don't really want.
That's why I still use Photo Impact Pro v8.5; Elements 14 & 19, and DPP.
Don't need no stinkin' "Lamborghini".
BTW - my car is a 2011 Hyundai Sonata.
Longshadow wrote:
That's why I still use Photo Impact Pro v8.5; Elements 14 & 19, and DPP.
Don't need no stinkin' "Lamborghini".
Actually if I have money to burn I don't think I would buy a Lamborghini either.
BebuLamar wrote:
And certainly a Civic is more than a good enough car for me. However not software or camera. As I said if money is tight I won't have them but I won't settle for anything less than what I want in term of my toys. I much rather not having them than having ones that I don't really want.
Especially when you can get the best for a paltry monthly fee
sodapop wrote:
Especially when you can get the best for a paltry monthly fee
I know you and a lot of people like that but not me.
Have any of you ever been in the software development marketing and sales business. It’s not easy and it’s a different kind of business from most. Software that is the innovative and can sell for a reasonable price becomes a commodity that is expected to be very low or no cost. And then there are the testing and support issues. If you think itis easy to make make money in software then give it a try...
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