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Jun 19, 2022 11:49:25   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
Of course without a data, this is all speculation. So, I speculate that many people get into photography think they need a long lens to mimic the pros they see on TV…most of whom are sports photogs. I know in the film days I lusted after a loooong lens. I finally was gifted
One and realized I rarely used it.

I’m the digital age I can buy any lens I want. Early I bought the goofy fisheye lens and burned stuff up in hdr. A total mess. As I evolved I soon settled on wide to normal focal lengths. I have a long zoom sitting around for those rare times that I need it (Africa). But even then about 90% of my shots were with a more standard zoom. In retrospect I should have just rented the long lens.

I also speculate that most do what I do. But those who do like and utilize their long lenses are birds in flight/wildlife folks. Perhaps they live in more rural environs?

Or maybe we wide angle folks are lazy? (A little.)

Who knows? Fun to think and talk about. Happy Father’s Day to all the dads!
Of course without a data, this is all speculation.... (show quote)


Some use long for BIF.
Some live in rural areas.
I live in the city and seldom (if hardly ever) use my 100-400mm for BIF. Used for flowers, landscapes, near macro of bugs etc.
Of course it focuses to near macro levels at 400mm so that versatility makes a difference.

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Jun 19, 2022 11:49:44   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Architect1776 wrote:
PS, USA is suffering the highest inflation by a large margin.


Actually, it is Israel that is suffering the highest inflation in the 20's. And they are not the only country with inflation in the 20's. We are only around 10 - just so you know we are not the worst off.

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Jun 19, 2022 11:50:37   #
MountainDave
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
The only birds I am interested in are clay pidgins which I dispatch with a Beretta! No photography skills needed!



I shot trap competitively for many years and found the skills learned doing that help me handle heavy lenses and (especially) BIF.

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Jun 19, 2022 12:08:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
wdross wrote:
Actually, it is Israel that is suffering the highest inflation in the 20's. And they are not the only country with inflation in the 20's. We are only around 10 - just so you know we are not the worst off.


I should have said major nations. I knew some smart a.. would do world wide.
There are many minor nations with far greater inflation than USA.

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Jun 19, 2022 12:12:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Interesting, because, in general, carpal tunnel comes primary from long-term repetitive motion movements such as doing a lot of typing or surgical procedures.


Hand holding heavy lenses all day long will do it. I know a number of professional photographers, mostly women doing senior portraiture, who wear hand braces because they had a bout of carpal tunnel at some point, or a co-worker had it and they just want to avoid it. I got it in 1983 from doing yearbook photojournalism and photography for corporate AV shows.

I worked for a school portrait lab. In the early 1990s, I managed a team of data entry operators (72 at peak, with 36 on two shifts). The first year we were doing that data entry (to identify students' ID cards, portrait packages, and other items), some of the terminals and chairs were less than ergonomically correct. We had a few workers' compensation claims due to carpal tunnel. It took me and the HR director several hours to convince our VP Production that we had to buy better furniture. He finally gave in... Partly after watching a film I found that explained how it can happen. Then he bought new furniture for his secretary! She'd been complaining of wrist pain for two years.

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Jun 19, 2022 12:20:25   #
Nosaj Loc: Sarasota, Florida
 
Bill_de wrote:
. . . . .
Your post smells like sour grapes, unless I misread it.

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No sour grapes! Just a little amused at how habits change over time!
As a long-time member of two camera clubs, 5-years selected for public exhibits, etc., there's not much I haven't seen.

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Jun 19, 2022 12:45:16   #
tillmanb
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
I suspect the shift to mirrorless with smaller, lighter long lenses.

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Jun 19, 2022 14:43:35   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Architect1776 wrote:
If one gets confused about an adapter they have a much bigger problem than the adapter.


Roger that...!

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Jun 19, 2022 14:46:41   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I read a rumor on the internet today that long lenses don't matter anymore. Who knew?


Probably just the hack who wrote the article, and they are apparently inaccurate.

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Jun 19, 2022 14:56:21   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Bill_de wrote:
Ever been to Conowingo? Do you think these folks were following a fad?

http://baltimorewatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Untitled.jpg

I would have loved to get these with my 70 - 200!

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-734327-1.html

Your post smells like sour grapes, unless I misread it.

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You came to the same conclusion that I did after reading that reply. Sounds more like jealousy than reality.

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Jun 19, 2022 16:22:28   #
Nosaj Loc: Sarasota, Florida
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
You came to the same conclusion that I did after reading that reply. Sounds more like jealousy than reality.

Nonsense!

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Jun 19, 2022 20:09:14   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Nosaj wrote:
Nonsense!


It might not have been your intent, but it is the way the post comes across.

If we were talking instead of reading, it might have been different.

No harm, no foul.

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Jun 19, 2022 21:00:40   #
gwilliams6
 
tramsey wrote:
All these people who are touting how great mirrorless is because of thirty seven different reasons; well they can have them. A couple of years ago I stumbled on a Nikon d850 with a 28-300 lens. Since I was doing mostly wild life I snapped it up. Later I found a 50 mm 1.4. It works great in low light portraits. A month ago at a camera club meeting a friend said he was going mirrorless and wanted to get rid of his 500 F/5. The deal he gave me I would've been a fool to pass up. Before I bought it my everyday lens was the 20-300, Now it's the 500. I've used a tripod for a couple of years because I shake a little, enough to really screw up a photo. I have no problem with the weight and my photos have improved. I will be keeping my rickety old 850 and all the rest. I'm on the watch for a 600 then I will sell the 500. I guess I'm like everyone else, never satisfied always looking for something better
All these people who are touting how great mirrorl... (show quote)


You nailed it, that "something better" is much quicker and better autofocus performance with mirrorless cameras than any DSLRs, just a fact as mirrorless cameras take their autofocus directly off the image sensor, and mirrorless lenses never need to be micro-adjusted due to mirror wear and misalignment over time. And mirrorless focus systems are much better and more accurate than DSLRs for video focusing too.

I used the best long lenses with my pro DSLRs for decades and then moved over to the best mirrorless and the focusing was just one of the countless areas where mirrorless outperformed my top pro DSLRs.

Watch this video from top pro wildlife shooter Mark Smith who was a longtime DSLR shooter with long lenses for wildlife action shots and had a revelation when he tried the best mirrorless cameras and their long lenses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ruQVtSqnYo&t=1190s

Cheers

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Jun 19, 2022 22:01:30   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I was shooting drag racing a couple weeks ago and another Canon shooter offered me the chance to shoot some with his 200-400 f/4. It is a large and fairly heavy lens, but I would definitely like to shoot with one. Interestingly enough he purchased it used from someone who was going mirrorless and decided they didn’t want it anymore.

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Jun 20, 2022 01:13:22   #
bnsf
 
I had a Tamron fixed 400mm lens Problem I had with the lenses is that the autofocus on the Sonya99ii did not work when I used the lenses. Lenses was brand new when I purchased it. Called Tamron and told them about it since it was under warranty told me to send it in for servicing. Got the lenses back in three weeks and still the same problem. When I used the lenses had to focus it manually. Gave up and sold the lenses and the person that brought it never complained that it did not auto focus on the camera. Right now, the longest lenses I have is a 100/300 for the a99ii. Suits me fine. If I need a longer lens, I will use the Sony RX10MIV with the 600mm zoom lens.

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