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May 10, 2022 20:45:25   #
srt101fan
 
JeffreyKupiec wrote:
Painting is not photophy


Wow!

Who says it is?

And what is "photophy" ......🤔

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May 10, 2022 21:47:13   #
Mustang1
 
True.

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May 10, 2022 21:57:45   #
srt101fan
 
Mustang1 wrote:
True.


Ah, how nice it would be to know what is true....🤔

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May 10, 2022 23:38:38   #
JeffreyKupiec Loc: Illinois
 
Sorry spelled the word wrong don’t have
Spellcheck on Ugly HegdgeHog

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May 11, 2022 03:10:52   #
Abo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Sometimes I arrive at just the right time when a thousand images will surely capture something.
because when the sheets are short the bed seems longer

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May 11, 2022 03:11:40   #
Abo
 
Camara john wrote:
Its EASY!Back in my Day, as a Combat Photographer in Vietnam, Had a Pentax Spotmatic , 28 mm, 50mm , 135mm, and any where from 20 to 60 rolls of Kodak Tri x Film. It was up to Us to get Photos, Know exposure , and composition. Did not have the GREAT WAYS of Today to create aPhotograph. Try Changing lens with bullets flying around. THE MORE You Shot the Smarter You GOT!!! If You could make it back to Home Base. Then develop your film make a contact sheet , send film and contact to HQ squadron.
Its EASY!Back in my Day, as a Combat Photographer ... (show quote)


You fvcken god you!

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May 11, 2022 03:33:03   #
Abo
 
burkphoto wrote:
As the late photo instructor and commercial photographer, Dean Collins, was fond of saying, "Beauty and art are in the eye of the checkbook holder."

People like Andy Warhol, Christo, and Maurizio Cattelan (who duct-taped a banana onto a canvas and called it art — that sold for $120,000 to $150,000 three times) know this! The "art" of their work was that they were able to sell such outrageous bull$#!†. They created "perceived value." The story and the mystique surround them.

People will throw enormous sums at average imagery if they like it. There is no accounting for taste. Nor is there any definition of art or "a real photographer" that isn't fluid and relative to a context of some sort.

BTW, I just saw this in the New York Times feed: "Warhol’s ‘Marilyn,’ at $195 Million, Shatters Auction Record for an American Artist. At Christie’s sale for charity, the glamorous silk-screen beat out Basquiat’s skull painting that had set a record in 2017."

(Is someone still wondering whether it is art?)
As the late photo instructor and commercial photog... (show quote)


Would you like to say how you feel about Jackson Pollocks "Blue Poles"?

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May 11, 2022 03:35:24   #
Abo
 
DP

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May 11, 2022 03:37:34   #
Abo
 
srt101fan wrote:
Wow!

Who says it is?

And what is "photophy" ......🤔


It's the American spelling of "for toffee"... isn't it?

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May 11, 2022 07:25:50   #
SueScott Loc: Hammondsville, Ohio
 
R.G. wrote:
And that's all he's ever done in UHH. He might hit 15 pages - there's no shortage of willing participants. Are people getting paid to post threads like this?


Has "Chris T" returned???

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May 11, 2022 08:39:30   #
huemax Loc: High Point, NC
 
Thanks for all comments on this subject of discussion. What is "A real photographer" My answer is every human being who can see. Another "A" is amateur who enjoy capture images and printing-displaying. The "P" stands for professional? They are trying to make profit, paying taxes through photographic technology. Yes, silver halide to capture photo=light images replaced by semi conductor electron transfer. This I mean, the photographic FINISHING process had been totally changed. We can see it in two words; the darkroom vs. lightroom. One wet your hands and smelling chemicals vs. dry hand sitting on a comfortable chair. In addition; prints for catalogs, brochure, post cards are just about gone, replaced by www.http...I remember a dawn of new photography in June of 1990, Kodak invited me to their seminar displaying the Photoshop with B&W images. I think it was meant for news media magazine photographers. Then, commercial industrial photographers. Here this area has the highest concentrations of pro furniture-home furnishing/accessories. The last phase of this graphic revolution, was people event pro's who are engaged in portrait and wedding. I shot a job last summer for country club reception, with 35 years camera handling experience with 5K updated DSLR, but many shots I saw in i-Phone XX were better looking than my shots. The automatic 7 layer imaging with ISO (used to be ASA) 256K while I was used to use 0.4K film.

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May 11, 2022 09:51:52   #
EdU239 Loc: The Northeast
 
Mustang1 wrote:
How can a person shoot in Auto and/or Program, have blurred, out-of-focus, underexposed pictures call himself a professional as he resorts to Photoshop to correct a lousy photo? Shouldn't he be creating that photo in the camera?


If they are shooting in Auto or Program the pictures probably aren’t out of focus or under exposed. But why single those settings out when there’s Autofocus, Aperture and Shutter priority, and auto ISO. Even if you’re shooting on Manual, cameras have built in biases, e.g., reviewers always seem to mention Canon’s colors, and you could argue that you’re not a professional unless you use Photoshop or some other editing tool to create the image that YOU want. A professional is paid to use the appropriate tools to obtain the desired result for a client or purchaser. Someone might enjoy the challenge to get it “right” in camera, but that in itself does not make them a professional.

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May 11, 2022 10:33:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
EdU239 wrote:
If they are shooting in Auto or Program the pictures probably aren’t out of focus or under exposed. But why single those settings out when there’s Autofocus, Aperture and Shutter priority, and auto ISO. Even if you’re shooting on Manual, cameras have built in biases, e.g., reviewers always seem to mention Canon’s colors, and you could argue that you’re not a professional unless you use Photoshop or some other editing tool to create the image that YOU want. A professional is paid to use the appropriate tools to obtain the desired result for a client or purchaser. Someone might enjoy the challenge to get it “right” in camera, but that in itself does not make them a professional.
If they are shooting in Auto or Program the pictur... (show quote)


All true...

BEING a professional is a multi-pronged fork of a job that ultimately pays your bills. The job involves sales, accounting, business management, disciplined organization, and many tasks that every business needs to stay in business.

In many instances, actual behind-the-camera photography is a SMALL part of the entire job. Most pros find that they need to be selling or photographing as often as possible, so they build a team of others to execute the details, which vary broadly according to the type of photography sold.

I knew one pro, back in the 1990s, who had about ten million dollars of annual volume across his four photography related businesses. His annual lab bill with us was around $2.6 million. He had three sales people, about 50 teams of seasonal school portrait photographers, around 15 teams of "graduation handshake" photographers, several senior portrait photographers, a team of bean counters, a VP of finance, an office manager and a team of operations people, a director of photography, an equipment manager, a customer service manager and two customer service agents, a fleet of vehicles... In short, it was a regional powerhouse of a school portrait business.

Getting it "right" in camera is a broad concept. There are so many different aspects of "right" that it would take a book to describe them all. You have to get ENOUGH at the camera to produce something good, later. What that includes will vary with the circumstances and the subject. So yes, using an appropriate tool for the job is rule one.

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May 11, 2022 13:25:51   #
Mike1017
 
I totally get it. He does not care about the quality of the images or his equipment, he is capturing the moments that he sees in his travels. In his own mine he loves what he is doing. Obviously he is making money at what he is doing.Very interesting. Mike

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May 11, 2022 13:53:59   #
JBuckley
 
I think you hit the [nail on the head. ]

Being a photographer might be "a real person" that enjoys capturing (all) elements of [life on this planet,] and using any technical sources that are available to him or her.

Seeing, appreciating the art, and capturing it to reflect on and share later, becomes a part of your soul.

While enjoying the photo works by high school and college students, it makes you realize that the price of the camera, (technology), and their experience in photography, [doesn't create] the better photographer.

The prize for best photo, is always in the "eye of the beholder". (Not the price of the photo print.)

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