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May 4, 2022 22:04:57   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Wuligal wrote:
I understand that.......I just want to know exactly what the "purpose" of the left leaning mob is?


The purpose? To quench their own prurient desires.

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May 5, 2022 05:48:10   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveR wrote:
FYI, about half the people in the U.S. with spina bifida are adults. While statistically their lives may be shorter (30-40) than normal adults, they do not die from spina bifida but from complications. They can and do live full and productive lives. If your unborn child had been diagnosed with such a condition, there would have been no need to abort it. Just support it.

Which disabilities do we designate as not worthy of human life? Do you think you are competent to make that call????
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How many of these people have you interview to see how they feel about being born?

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May 5, 2022 05:51:40   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wuligal wrote:
Maybe we should all read Alito's draft before we shape our opinions. Yes, it's a long tough read (98 pages) but it certainly explains the why and wherefore of his thinking on the matter of abortion. He makes the point that the reason we are overwhelmed with uncertainty over the legal status of abortions is because of how it was created 50 years ago. Alito simply wants to fix the law so we won't ever go through this again. Nowhere does he suggest we halt abortions or change the protocol now set by the states.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473
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]“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he (Alito) writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”

The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.

The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.

No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.

Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”

“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.

Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.

“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”

Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents — in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.

Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.

“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”

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Unless i miss my guess this entire mess (including the raging protests in many cities along with injured cops) is over nohting except to give the left a distraction from inflation, the economy, immigration, and any thing else that makes them look bad.
Maybe we should all read Alito's draft before we s... (show quote)


Each of these justices while being confirmed said repeatedly "Roe is established law".

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May 5, 2022 05:53:51   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveR wrote:
The purpose? To quench their own prurient desires.


Where did you dig that one out of? Follow your religious beliefs and be happy. Do not be consumed with making others conform to your beliefs.

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May 5, 2022 07:21:23   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
WNYShooter wrote:
If you really are concerned about earth being overcrowded, may I suggest you flip your OFF switch and lessen the crowding by one. I mean, if you're gonna preach it, live it.....pun intended.



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May 5, 2022 09:19:11   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Fotoartist wrote:
It's actually come down to this. Abortion is not mentioned in the Federal Constitution. It is not a federal issue, Roe v. Wade to the contrary. Therefore, it is in the hands of the states and the people as per the Tenth Amendment.


Were there not a life in the womb then abortion would certainly become a constitutional right, of that I have little doubt but there is the life in the womb and a clear argument can be made for the protection of that baby's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. There is a clear reason that folks like Frank scream from the hilltops that life begins at birth and not before, because without that definition of life then abortion can not stand unregulated as the democrats would like to see it. "My body my choice" is the most ignorant expression of political dogma that exists in todays culture.

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May 5, 2022 10:05:26   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Were there not a life in the womb then abortion would certainly become a constitutional right, of that I have little doubt but there is the life in the womb and a clear argument can be made for the protection of that baby's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. There is a clear reason that folks like Frank scream from the hilltops that life begins at birth and not before, because without that definition of life then abortion can not stand unregulated as the democrats would like to see it. "My body my choice" is the most ignorant expression of political dogma that exists in todays culture.
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When you grow a uterus, get back to us about what you think.

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May 5, 2022 10:06:45   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Frank T wrote:
When you grow a uterus, get back to us about what you think.


Apparently you must have grown one since you have an opinion on this.

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May 5, 2022 10:28:51   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Apparently you must have grown one since you have an opinion on this.


Richard, Since you asked, I will give you my opinion.
1. The worst thing that ever happened to this country was the empowering of the Evangelical Right.
2. Abortion, as it is argued is a question of when life begins and many "Christians" think that it is at conception.
3. Yes, a fertilized cell is life, the same as a cancer cell is a life, yet we routinely remove them.
4. Evangelical Christians believe that if you do not obey their god, you will burn in hell for eternity. (They bring this same belief system to man's law, yet they denounce Sharia Law while at the same time practicing it under a different name.
5. All the people that advocate for eliminating abortion are the same people who refuse to pay for any public programs to support, feed, shelter or educate the unwanted children.
6. And, pay attention because this is the most important point. What a woman does with her body is none of your fkn business.

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May 5, 2022 10:32:37   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Frank T wrote:
Richard, Since you asked, I will give you my opinion.
1. The worst thing that ever happened to this country was the empowering of the Evangelical Right.
2. Abortion, as it is argued is a question of when life begins and many "Christians" think that it is at conception.
3. Yes, a fertilized cell is life, the same as a cancer cell is a life, yet we routinely remove them.
4. Evangelical Christians believe that if you do not obey their god, you will burn in hell for eternity. (They bring this same belief system to man's law, yet they denounce Sharia Law while at the same time practicing it under a different name.
5. All the people that advocate for eliminating abortion are the same people who refuse to pay for any public programs to support, feed, shelter or educate the unwanted children.
6. And, pay attention because this is the most important point. What a woman does with her body is none of your fkn business.
Richard, Since you asked, I will give you my opini... (show quote)


Well my memory must be short so you have to remind me, when did I ask you that?

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May 5, 2022 11:51:08   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Apparently you must have grown one since you have an opinion on this.


Frank is in full mangina mode today.

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May 5, 2022 12:31:19   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
Fotoartist wrote:
It's actually come down to this. Abortion is not mentioned in the Federal Constitution. It is not a federal issue, Roe v. Wade to the contrary. Therefore, it is in the hands of the states and the people as per the Tenth Amendment.


My assessment was as simple as yours. If we are correct what the heck is all the ruckus about? All the protesters can just go home to Idaho or Ohio or where ever and make the changes at their state capital and leave me the heck alone. Oh yeah......the left wingers need something to hang their election day hats on and their policies have all failed so they need a new "cause".

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May 5, 2022 12:42:36   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Frank T wrote:
When you grow a uterus, get back to us about what you think.


When you grow your own brain capable of original thought, well, get back to us.

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May 5, 2022 12:44:11   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Frank T wrote:
Richard, Since you asked, I will give you my opinion.
1. The worst thing that ever happened to this country was the empowering of the Evangelical Right.
2. Abortion, as it is argued is a question of when life begins and many "Christians" think that it is at conception.
3. Yes, a fertilized cell is life, the same as a cancer cell is a life, yet we routinely remove them.
4. Evangelical Christians believe that if you do not obey their god, you will burn in hell for eternity. (They bring this same belief system to man's law, yet they denounce Sharia Law while at the same time practicing it under a different name.
5. All the people that advocate for eliminating abortion are the same people who refuse to pay for any public programs to support, feed, shelter or educate the unwanted children.
6. And, pay attention because this is the most important point. What a woman does with her body is none of your fkn business.
Richard, Since you asked, I will give you my opini... (show quote)


LOL.... Crazy Frank equates a child to cancer.... Bet you had a great family life.... Beaten your children lately?

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May 5, 2022 14:33:44   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
The people here loosing their minds like to assert that voter-fraud was not proven in court and therefore a phoney story. Well, guess what Thom and all the rest; a court DID rule against abortion. Suck it up cry-babies.

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