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May 3, 2022 07:53:34   #
BebuLamar
 
Dalek wrote:
My answer is simple: I enjoy learning new concepts and technology. Example: transition from an analog watch to digital - a whole new application and integration of learning and technology.
I have a D5 and now a Z9.


Yup analog watches tend to be more expensive than digital ones.

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May 3, 2022 07:57:37   #
spaceylb Loc: Long Beach, N.Y.
 
JohnR wrote:
Short answer is NOT they take better images - its the PHOTOGRAPHER that takes better images



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May 3, 2022 08:02:18   #
Jim Bianco
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The mirrorless images will win all the prizes. It won't be fair. It won't even be a competition.

I don't own a camera to win prizes, I have aD610 and 4 lenses and it takes nice pics that is all I need, you could have mirrorless enjoy it.

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May 3, 2022 08:10:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The success is not something that happens while waiting for your DSLR to fail. No, you create the future by filling your online shopping cart with mirrorless camera equipment.

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May 3, 2022 08:15:15   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Longshadow wrote:
dpreview.com ?


Nope

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May 3, 2022 08:25:05   #
ELNikkor
 
Right!

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May 3, 2022 08:31:05   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
I will maybe change when Nikon comes out with a dx mirrorless comparable to the d7200 or d500.

Chuck

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May 3, 2022 08:37:24   #
starlifter Loc: Towson, MD
 
Just the point, Why Mirrorless? I was finally able to get My Nikon D850 and love it, Even with only using " only Tamron" len's.

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May 3, 2022 08:38:48   #
bkwaters
 
goldenyears wrote:
I realize the short answer is that they take better images. But what is the more technical answer? How should I compare different mirrorless cameras. If I am going to buy a mirrorless camera I'd like to prepare myself to make my choice based on a sound technical evaluation of the different models. When I purchased my DSLR camera I didn't know what features/specifications were most important and so I just went for cheapest Canon. It was way better than my point-and-shoot for sure, but I soon discovered its many limitations. I don't have the resources necessary to make the opposite mistake and buy the most expensive mirrorless camera just because it must be wonderful.

Can someone refer me to a website that gets into the technical aspects of mirrorless camera technology... one that is not a clickbait site?
I realize the short answer is that they take bette... (show quote)


Others have detailed the advantages of mirrorless. Whether to get M4/3, APS-C or Full Frame is a less important question than ever thanks to the excellent noise reduction and sharpening software now available. The ability to focus blur backgrounds such as with the PS neuro filter makes getting a full frame less compelling. So if you are into sports or nature photography, the main variable is focus tracking. That’s what I would weigh the most. And even then can’t go wrong with the top Nikon, Canon, Sony and, maybe, Olympus models.

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May 3, 2022 08:47:10   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
goldenyears wrote:
I realize the short answer is that they take better images. But what is the more technical answer? How should I compare different mirrorless cameras. If I am going to buy a mirrorless camera I'd like to prepare myself to make my choice based on a sound technical evaluation of the different models. When I purchased my DSLR camera I didn't know what features/specifications were most important and so I just went for cheapest Canon. It was way better than my point-and-shoot for sure, but I soon discovered its many limitations. I don't have the resources necessary to make the opposite mistake and buy the most expensive mirrorless camera just because it must be wonderful.

Can someone refer me to a website that gets into the technical aspects of mirrorless camera technology... one that is not a clickbait site?
I realize the short answer is that they take bette... (show quote)


All recent and many non-recent cameras are capable of making great pictures. The ability to make great photographs lies in the mind of the photographer.

The type of camera that is ideal for a particular subject depends on that subject and the cost of the camera. View Cameras and medium format digital cameras make super landscape images. These same cameras are quite useless for making photographs of fast action. A wedding photographer might use a FF DSLR or Mirrorless camera for its low light capability and the possibility of very shallow depth of field. Many travelers and macrophototographers might choose micro 4/3 cameras.


The principal advantage of a mirrorless camera is the ability to previsualize the image in the EVF before the photograph is taken. These cameras are also capable of using many vintage lenses.

The features on mirrorless varies between camera models and manufactures. What is most desirable depends on your subject matter and style of shooting.

My most recent cameras are Olympus Cameras. I do a lot of close-up and macro work. The small sensor size makes taking photos of small objects optically easier. The small camera size is also great for travel and long lens work.

As I often use a wired cable release so the simplicity of the cable is helpful. My EM 1 MkIII has a VERY simple cable that I can even make myself for special tasks. My Olympus also has a flip out screen that is useful when working close to the ground.

Olympus cameras have several computational modes - I enjoy Live Composite and Live Time to make photos that would otherwise be impossible. (e.g. Recording 30 minutes of firefly flashes without overexposing the background)

You need to consider what things about your present Camera are limiting your photography. When you find some candidates listen to YouTube reviews and study the manuals of candidate cameras. The most interesting things in a manual are those things NOT mentioned.

Leica M cameras (Rangefinder) are rather useful at times. These cameras are, however, VERY EXPENSIVE and are not useful for close up work.

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May 3, 2022 09:04:31   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
charlienow wrote:
I will maybe change when Nikon comes out with a dx mirrorless comparable to the d7200 or d500.

Chuck


The have. It's called the Z50.

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May 3, 2022 09:04:49   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
scubadoc wrote:
Not sure if this was available on DSLRs, but for me, shooting Canon R5, the ability to setup three different autofocus types, using the shutter button, the AF/ON button, and the * button. Spot focus to the shutter, eye tracking for AF/ON, and zone focus for the *


I believe that was available on the 7DII

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May 3, 2022 09:08:36   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
BTW - nothing about mirrorless cameras damages nor changes your current mirror-laden camera(s). When you contemplate changing your camera, the question depends completely on: why?

Hopefully, not because of the hype of the superior results of removing the mirror. Neither the sensor (nor the lenses) really care even 1-bit about whether the camera has a mirror. Although, yes, the focusing system and the lens designs for mirrorless do perform better 1:1 in comparison to their mirror-based counterparts.

With a better understanding of the limitations you've identified, maybe we can point to a better and tangible upgrade. We might also point to reasons why there are no realistic upgrade options, especially while maintaining the same pixel resolution, price range, and / or the same legacy lenses.
BTW - nothing about mirrorless cameras damages nor... (show quote)


All this is fine and dandy. I even own an R5. But ONE thing they are not telling you. BE PREPARED TO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY FOR EVERYTHING. I own the EF 24-70 2.8II at about 1500.00. The new RF 24-70 2.0 is over 3000.00.

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May 3, 2022 09:12:45   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
foathog wrote:
All this is fine and dandy. I even own an R5. But ONE thing they are not telling you. BE PREPARED TO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY FOR EVERYTHING.


They are telling you. The price is prominently posted on every piece of gear. If you bought an R5 without knowing what additional gear would cost that's on you.

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May 3, 2022 09:19:25   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
goldenyears wrote:
I realize the short answer is that they take better images. But what is the more technical answer? How should I compare different mirrorless cameras. If I am going to buy a mirrorless camera I'd like to prepare myself to make my choice based on a sound technical evaluation of the different models. When I purchased my DSLR camera I didn't know what features/specifications were most important and so I just went for cheapest Canon. It was way better than my point-and-shoot for sure, but I soon discovered its many limitations. I don't have the resources necessary to make the opposite mistake and buy the most expensive mirrorless camera just because it must be wonderful.

Can someone refer me to a website that gets into the technical aspects of mirrorless camera technology... one that is not a clickbait site?
I realize the short answer is that they take bette... (show quote)


Thinking you’ll automatically get better images is NOT a reason to go mirrorless. There might be a slight edge in IQ based on newer sensor technology, but in general there’s not gonna be a difference in IQ just because a camera is mirrorless. That being said, I’m all in on mirrorless for all the reasons Paul listed. Any good camera from the last 10 years will give you good IQ, for me mirrorless cameras enhance the shooting experience.

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