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Apr 24, 2022 14:55:14   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
We will see, the governor does know a bit about the law, but you might be right, certainly if I were on your side of the issue I would be questioning if this was not a clear cut example of punishing speech. BTW, there is nothing in the Florida law about being Gay, simply states that teachers can't groom 5 to 7 year olds.


The fact such a law preventing grooming is even on the table apparently says a lot about democrats and their headlong rush to deconstruct society.

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Apr 24, 2022 16:14:53   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Not statements but that as a corporation they would do all they can to overthrow the law in any way possible.
That is not free speech but insurrection.

So you say they are repukes. Lol

Don't believe a word of it but worthless imagination

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Apr 24, 2022 16:26:37   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
The fact such a law preventing grooming is even on the table apparently says a lot about democrats and their headlong rush to deconstruct society.


Says more about Republicans and their use of fear to win elections.

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Apr 24, 2022 17:06:18   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
Says more about Republicans and their use of fear to win elections.


Have you read the law Thom? I don't know of one parent that wants sex education to begin in grades Kindergarten through third. Do you know anything about the law or do you just know which side of the political aisle you are on?

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Apr 24, 2022 17:17:45   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
dirtpusher wrote:
DeSantis Set Up to Lose in a Disney Lawsuit, Former Trump Attorney Says


It should be pointed out that is coming from an ex TRUMPF attorney . . . How much does anyone want to believe in THAT?

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Apr 24, 2022 17:26:37   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
We will see, the governor does know a bit about the law, but you might be right, certainly if I were on your side of the issue I would be questioning if this was not a clear cut example of punishing speech. BTW, there is nothing in the Florida law about being Gay, simply states that teachers can't groom 5 to 7 year olds.


I am not at all sure about the law and whether or not this case has anything to do with first amendment rights.

It certainly seems inappropriate for teachers or ‘the system’ to be “grooming” kindergarten to third-graders . . . .

As far as I’m concerned, the ban ought to persist through grade-school and maybe middle-school as well.

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Apr 24, 2022 17:26:43   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Wyantry wrote:
It should be pointed out that is coming from an ex TRUMPF attorney . . . How much does anyone want to believe in THAT?


But but he prbly stable genius also

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Apr 24, 2022 17:34:44   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Have you read the law Thom? I don't know of one parent that wants sex education to begin in grades Kindergarten through third. Do you know anything about the law or do you just know which side of the political aisle you are on?


I don't know anything about the law, but I suspect the kids are safer in school than in church. Are there even any suspected cases of "grooming"? My suspicion is the law was only even thought up to scare parents that liberals are trying to turn their kids gay. If "grooming" means what I believe it means, isn't it already illegal. I wouldn't think sex would even come up very often, but a law saying you can't even mention it seems rather extreme to me. Do you really believe there are a group of people trying to turn young kids gay?

"grooming
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
the practice of brushing and cleaning the coat of a horse, dog, or other animal.
"regular grooming is essential to the well-being of your dog"
2.
the action by a pedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense.
"online grooming has become a growing cause for concern"

Obviously it is definition #2
I would think that would already be illegal.
Do you believe kids are being "groomed" by math books? I don't believe it.

I was taught early on to not bite the hand that feeds. Apparently no one ever taught DeSantis that.

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Apr 24, 2022 20:10:28   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
I don't know anything about the law, but I suspect the kids are safer in school than in church. Are there even any suspected cases of "grooming"? My suspicion is the law was only even thought up to scare parents that liberals are trying to turn their kids gay. If "grooming" means what I believe it means, isn't it already illegal. I wouldn't think sex would even come up very often, but a law saying you can't even mention it seems rather extreme to me. Do you really believe there are a group of people trying to turn young kids gay?

"grooming
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
the practice of brushing and cleaning the coat of a horse, dog, or other animal.
"regular grooming is essential to the well-being of your dog"
2.
the action by a pedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense.
"online grooming has become a growing cause for concern"

Obviously it is definition #2
I would think that would already be illegal.
Do you believe kids are being "groomed" by math books? I don't believe it.

I was taught early on to not bite the hand that feeds. Apparently no one ever taught DeSantis that.
I don't know anything about the law, but I suspect... (show quote)


Thom, the best place to see what was going on in school classrooms was "Libs of TicTok" where a private person was finding and reposting videos of teachers talking about themselves and their students on twitter, but of course the censors at twitter don't want you to see them so many of them have been taken down and the poster is often suspended.

As far as the Florida Bill goes, it is only 7 pages double spaced.... Educate yourself, read it!

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF

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Apr 24, 2022 21:51:14   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Thom, the best place to see what was going on in school classrooms was "Libs of TicTok" where a private person was finding and reposting videos of teachers talking about themselves and their students on twitter, but of course the censors at twitter don't want you to see them so many of them have been taken down and the poster is often suspended.

As far as the Florida Bill goes, it is only 7 pages double spaced.... Educate yourself, read it!

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF
Thom, the best place to see what was going on in s... (show quote)


Must all be looney loud mouth rwingers

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Apr 24, 2022 23:24:37   #
pendennis
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Must all be looney loud mouth rwingers


Read the bill and comment. Just how is Mouse Land prevented from exercising their corporate 1st Amendment Rights?

To paraphrase Professor Kingsfield - "Fill the chatroom with your vast Constitutional knowledge and intelligence!"

We're waiting.

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Apr 24, 2022 23:33:01   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
pendennis wrote:
Read the bill and comment. Just how is Mouse Land prevented from exercising their corporate 1st Amendment Rights?

To paraphrase Professor Kingsfield - "Fill the chatroom with your vast Constitutional knowledge and intelligence!"

We're waiting.


It quite evident not a rwinger here has come up with one just complain àn show your childish ignorance. Just like complain about the inflation but not one good suggestion to improve it not one single idea besides the usual ignorance. I'm waiting

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Apr 24, 2022 23:43:44   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
https://www.vox.com/23036427/ron-desantis-disney-first-amendment-constitution-supreme-court


Where do you come up with this B.S.??

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Apr 25, 2022 00:26:22   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
scooter1 wrote:
Where do you come up with this B.S.??


Think you the bs cuz that the real truth. Are you filled with that much ignorance to not see it apperantly

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Apr 25, 2022 01:55:55   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Think you the bs cuz that the real truth. Are you filled with that much ignorance to not see it apperantly


Just shows how tiny you are Dirt, you are so political that you support grooming of small children because it is what you think your political party stands for.

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