A dilemma
Apr 22, 2022 10:11:22 #
Triplets wrote:
The attached photos were taken by me. In #1, I did some minor editing to enhance the visual. In #2 I did a sky replacement in Photoshop. My question is, if I post #2 on any social media platforms am I obligated to disclose the editing and sky replacement?
Thanks,
Dennis
Thanks,
Dennis
Social media.
If there are no rules posted Photoshop away. If it is a contest with rules against sky substitution or other similar alterations, the blue sky is beautiful too. Some areas never have really blue skies.Me personally I would have to ask or want to know if the sky with clouds image was taken by you. If so I'm personally OK with your composite. And have done similar a couple times myself with old school Ps layers and tools. But if the image component are not all yours, it is just a fake to me. Also some really observant photographers and Photoshop whizzes can see the evidence of cloning / layering / and worst of all, shadows being incorrect. Contest judges are often good at finding issues too. Especially organizations like PPA and their state affiliates. Some contest even require submission of the cameras RAW files as well as the out put finished file or print.
Yet, most viewers will enjoy a beautiful image at face value.
Apr 22, 2022 10:11:45 #
I agree with Longshadow. If the sky and the arch are both your pictures, it's your image, you made it. Just claim it as yours and post it. No explanation needed.
Apr 22, 2022 10:20:29 #
lamiaceae wrote:
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Yet, most viewers will enjoy a beautiful image at face value.
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Yet, most viewers will enjoy a beautiful image at face value.
(I don't analyze the bejeebers out of an image. I either like it or I don't.)
Apr 22, 2022 10:25:44 #
Triplets wrote:
I just thought if I added something that wasn’t part of the original I should disclose it.
Why?? Its YOUR photograph with post processing
Apr 22, 2022 10:26:02 #
Just Shoot Me
Loc: Ithaca, NY
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've learned to never disclose anything related to my camera gear to my Better Half for it never ends well for me..!
When I die, I pray that my better half doesn't sell my camera gear for what I told her I paid for it.
Apr 22, 2022 10:28:17 #
If photograhers need to disclose the extent of their editing on SOCIAL MEDIA, that should apply to all who post misinformation. malicious rumours, outright lies, bizarre conspiracy theories, bogus medical remedies, and pure stupidity and, label it as such! Here are two examples:
Imagine: "PLEASE NOTICE: This image is fake, the drama sky was inserted by means of a post-processing software" And...
"The following post is unmitigated, B.S. and only to be believed by an idiot, however, I deced to post tit anyway because it is fun"!
Social media can be fun, it can bring folks together, and foster good causes., At times., it can also be a "garbage can or a sewer" of exceptionally bad stuff. If you post simply a pretty or artful picture, I am sure nobody will take you to a task on a technicality, and if they do, so what?
Imagine: "PLEASE NOTICE: This image is fake, the drama sky was inserted by means of a post-processing software" And...
"The following post is unmitigated, B.S. and only to be believed by an idiot, however, I deced to post tit anyway because it is fun"!
Social media can be fun, it can bring folks together, and foster good causes., At times., it can also be a "garbage can or a sewer" of exceptionally bad stuff. If you post simply a pretty or artful picture, I am sure nobody will take you to a task on a technicality, and if they do, so what?
Apr 22, 2022 10:29:42 #
Apr 22, 2022 10:41:40 #
Longshadow wrote:
Well, if they are HIS sky and HIS arch images, it AIN'T Ralph's photo.
Where are the rules that one has to declare than an image was manipulated?
ANY IMAGE run through an editor IS MANIPULATED. So THOSE must be declared also, correct???
Where are the rules that one has to declare than an image was manipulated?
ANY IMAGE run through an editor IS MANIPULATED. So THOSE must be declared also, correct???
Apr 22, 2022 10:50:30 #
Longshadow wrote:
(I don't analyze the bejeebers out of an image. I either like it or I don't.)
(I don't analyze the bejeebers out of an image. I either like it or I don't.)
That’s generally my view as well. Does it grab me or not? If it hooks me in a second or two, the photographer succeeded.
Apr 22, 2022 10:53:43 #
Social media doesn't care and probably your viewers don't care. However, if it were to be entered in any competition - no matter how trivial - you should state that it is a composite. It's called integrity. I know most here don't agree with me on this, but I feel strongly that composites should be claimed as such. I am always VERY disappointed when I see a lovely photo posted (even on social media), only to find out later that it's a composite. Most of the shows and competitions I enter state that any major manipulation (beyond contrast/density/cropping) must be stated. They even want to know if the colours have been saturated.
Apr 22, 2022 11:15:13 #
AzPicLady wrote:
Social media doesn't care and probably your viewer... (show quote)
Absolutely agree about entering in competition.
Apr 22, 2022 11:23:02 #
mflowe
Loc: Port Deposit, MD
Triplets wrote:
The attached photos were taken by me. In #1, I did some minor editing to enhance the visual. In #2 I did a sky replacement in Photoshop. My question is, if I post #2 on any social media platforms am I obligated to disclose the editing and sky replacement?
Thanks,
Dennis
Thanks,
Dennis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEGV2DNP7k8&t=246s
This will tell my thoughts on the matter.
Apr 22, 2022 11:26:26 #
JeffL
Loc: New Jersey
It’s social media. A: it is unlikely the Neanderthals would understand post processing. B: If only facts were presented on Facebook,Twitter, et al, these companies would go out of business.
Apr 22, 2022 11:32:14 #
Just Shoot Me
Loc: Ithaca, NY
JeffL wrote:
It’s social media. A: it is unlikely the Neanderthals would understand post processing. B: If only facts were presented on Facebook,Twitter, et al, these companies would go out of business.
Apr 22, 2022 11:56:51 #
timcc
Loc: Virginia
Except in a competition, gallery display, or client requirement where it may be barred, you should feel the need to disclose the sky replacement only if you want to take credit for it.
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