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Jan. 6 panel has enough evidence to refer Trump for criminal charges, Cheney says
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Apr 12, 2022 12:17:41   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Even I would vote that way... if you would let me have a say.


LOL... I am sure that you can vote here John, just figure out where Stacey Abrams has the most influence in pre-election rule making.

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Apr 12, 2022 12:44:11   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
LOL... I am sure that you can vote here John, just figure out where Stacey Abrams has the most influence in pre-election rule making.


Bingo, but only if he vote’s Democrat

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Apr 12, 2022 19:25:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
flip1948 wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-enough-evidence-refer-trump-criminal-charges-cheney-says-rcna23778

By Christina Zhao

The House panel investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol has enough evidence to refer President Donald Trump for criminal charges, Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., said Sunday.

“It’s absolutely clear that what President Trump was doing — what a number of people around him were doing — that they knew it was unlawful. They did it anyway,” Cheney, the vice chair and one of two Republicans on the committee, said on CNN's "State of the Union" when host Jake Tapper asked her whether the panel had enough evidence to make a criminal referral for Trump. Cheney said the panel has not made a decision about moving forward with the referral.

The New York Times reported that the committee has concluded that it has enough evidence to make a criminal referral but that its leaders were divided over whether to do so.

"I think what we have seen is a massive and well-organized and well-planned effort that used multiple tools to try to overturn an election," Cheney said. The committee has "got a tremendous amount of testimony and documents that I think very, very clearly demonstrate the extent of the planning and the organization and the objective."

She added: "The objective was absolutely to try to stop the kind of electoral votes, to try to interfere with that official proceeding. And it’s absolutely clear that they knew what they were doing was wrong."

She referred to a ruling in a civil suit involving the committee last month, in which a federal judge found that based on evidence, Trump most likely "attempted to obstruct the joint session of Congress" on the day of the attack, which would be a crime.

“The illegality of the plan was obvious,” U.S. District Judge David Carter wrote of Trump and lawyer John Eastman’s plan to have then-Vice President Mike Pence determine the results of the 2020 election. “Every American — and certainly the president of the United States — knows that in a democracy, leaders are elected, not installed. With a plan this ‘BOLD,’ President Trump knowingly tried to subvert this fundamental principle."

The Jan. 6 panel made similar allegations in a court filing in the case last month, saying it had a "good-faith basis for concluding that the President and members of his Campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States."

The Jan. 6 panel made similar allegations in a court filing in the case last month, saying it had a "good-faith basis for concluding that the President and members of his Campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-pa... (show quote)


Reminds me of Russia, Russia for 5 years.

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Apr 12, 2022 19:45:23   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Fotoartist wrote:
So Cheney says that Trump was extorting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky by urging him to do the right thing and investigate Hunter Biden's influence peddling dealings with Joe Biden in Ukraine?

Cheney and you still want to victimize and persecute Trump's whistle-blowing that was right all along? And if Trump's request would have happened it would have changed this sad course of history under the Biden's which we are going through now into one of continued peace and prosperity.

Need I remind you that this pathetic impeachment of Trump was overturned and why shouldn't the whistle-blower of the phone call who was wrong be prosecuted?
So Cheney says that Trump was extorting Ukrainian ... (show quote)


lol. Just be thankful the sleazeball beat the quid pro quo rap and the insurrection rap. His vast legacy of sleaze and

loathing cannot be papered-over. You're wasting your talents gilding a turd.

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Apr 13, 2022 04:20:34   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
idaholover wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/30/new-wyoming-poll-shows-more-trouble-for-liz-cheney/

An eight and a half month article is way too out of date!

Cheney is out pacing her trump backed opponent by a lot in fundraising.

Don't count on Cheney getting beaten in the primary!

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Apr 13, 2022 04:33:34   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"From 2017 to 2021, Cheney voted in line with Trump's position 92.9% of the time, supporting him more consistently in House votes than even his former chief of staff Mark Meadows.[76] In 2019, according to the New York Times, Cheney publicly feuded with Rand Paul over who was "Trumpier". According to The Atlantic, she was a "loyal Trumpist" and helped build "the party of Trump".

Whether she loses her seat or not in November, she will be a part of history as one of the few conservative leaders in Congress who had a spine, and wasn't afraid to oppose Trump and his unethical attempts to overthrow a democratic election. She is a leader in every sense of the word--who saw wrong and risked her career to do the right thing.
"From 2017 to 2021, Cheney voted in line with... (show quote)

But when push came to shove, Liz Cheney chose County over Party when trump overstepped the boundaries of normal politics.

When trump chose to mount an attempted Coup on January 6, 2021, after months of trying to overturn the 2020 election results, most GOP members of Congress thumbed their noses and sat on their collective butts and did nothing.

Liz Cheney will go down in history as one of the very few GOP members of Congress who chose to say trump was wrong, and needed to be held accountable for his actions.

Any member of Congress who didn't oppose what trump did shouldn't be a sitting member in either the House or the Senate, because they chose to ignore their Oath of Office, you know the one where they swear to uphold the US Constitution!

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Apr 13, 2022 04:41:51   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Excuse me Liz Cheney, when she said, "The objective was absolutely to try to stop the count of electoral votes,...". That was a lie and she knows it. It was to legally stop the counting of still legally contested votes.

In fact, the official count of Electoral votes had already been halted before any incursion into the Capitol. I watched the proceedings of the Electoral Vote count in the joint session of Congress on my TV. And when AZ was called, House Rep. Paul Goscar objected to the count and his objection was in writing and signed by a Senator, Ted Cruz.

VP Mike Pence immediately stopped the count and was supposed to call for a debate on the objection before the count could resume. At that point the session was halted.

Don't these liars know we have memories and video evidence?

The count would never have resumed if AZ's votes were ruled in debate that they would have to be sent back.
Excuse me Liz Cheney, when she said, "The obj... (show quote)

In the history of US elections, have ANY state Electoral College votes "been sent back" after certification by the state?

Why now?

Because trump refused to believe that he was voted out of office, and 17 months after the 2020 election ended, trump is still pushing his LIE that there was voter fraud.

The only documented voter fraud in the 2020 election was actually committed by trump voters!

Don't forget that there are 7 states where FAKE Electors submitted FORGED documents to the National Archives, the House, and the Senate!

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Apr 13, 2022 04:49:05   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Fotoartist wrote:
So Cheney says that Trump was extorting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky by urging him to do the right thing and investigate Hunter Biden's influence peddling dealings with Joe Biden in Ukraine?

Cheney and you still want to victimize and persecute Trump's whistle-blowing that was right all along? And if Trump's request would have happened it would have changed this sad course of history under the Biden's which we are going through now into one of continued peace and prosperity.

Need I remind you that this pathetic impeachment of Trump was overturned and why shouldn't the whistle-blower of the phone call who was wrong be prosecuted?
So Cheney says that Trump was extorting Ukrainian ... (show quote)

No, the Impeachment wasn't overturned!

There's no overturning an Impeachment, that Impeachment forever remains on the record of the individual who was Impeached!

The GOP members of the Senate chose not to convict trump.

The whistle-blower wasn't wrong to report the phone call which resulted in trump's first Impeachment.

Why did the trump administration feel the need to hide the records of that phone call to Zelensky on the super secret server at the White House if trump did nothing wrong?

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Apr 13, 2022 08:58:17   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Texcaster wrote:
lol. Just be thankful the sleazeball beat the quid pro quo rap and the insurrection rap. His vast legacy of sleaze and

loathing cannot be papered-over. You're wasting your talents gilding a turd.


Hopefully Trump or DeSantis will replace Biden and his crime family in 24. All sleaze ball dems beat the rap. Ask the Obamas and the Clintons.

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Apr 13, 2022 17:09:28   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
idaholover wrote:
Hopefully Trump or DeSantis will replace Biden and his crime family in 24. All sleaze ball dems beat the rap. Ask the Obamas and the Clintons.


The Obamas and poor old Hillary weren't impeached for ... naked quid pro quo ... or anything were they?

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Apr 13, 2022 17:37:24   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Texcaster wrote:
The Obamas and poor old Hillary weren't impeached for ... naked quid pro quo ... or anything were they?


Clinton was for perjury Trump was for nothing

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Apr 13, 2022 17:37:57   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Texcaster wrote:
The Obamas and poor old Hillary weren't impeached for ... naked quid pro quo ... or anything were they?


Hillary is on her way

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Apr 13, 2022 17:44:47   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
idaholover wrote:
Clinton was for perjury Trump was for nothing


Hillary was not impeached. She wasn't even a one-termer. What does Tucker say?

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Apr 13, 2022 17:46:04   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
idaholover wrote:
Hillary is on her way


"Any day now ... Bazinga!!" Trey Gowdy

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Apr 13, 2022 18:46:27   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Texcaster wrote:
The Obamas and poor old Hillary weren't impeached for ... naked quid pro quo ... or anything were they?


Just because they weren't doesn't mean they should have been.

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