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Mar 20, 2022 14:07:40   #
MDI Mainer
 
Canisdirus wrote:
All of that is true...but the fact still remains...most Sony lenses ...have no switch to turn IBIS on...which means that lens relies on the body.
Most of Sony's lineup...uses the body...no switch. Most...not all.


If the lens has stabilization and no switch, turning the stabilization on or off is controlled by the camera menu setting. But the lens still has stabilization and that functions whether or not the body has stabilization. The switch is an added convenience.

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Mar 20, 2022 15:02:52   #
David33316
 
Hi, have you considered the A7C about the same size as the 6400 but full frame and takes advantage of the lenses you already have. Suprisingly the kit zoom lens is compact and very sharp. Don't take my word for it, look at some of the reviews.
I shoot with it with my Leica lenses at time and it's a wonderful camera. Only negative is the small viewfinder compared to you A7R. Just sayin...

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Mar 20, 2022 15:03:36   #
Canisdirus
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
If the lens has stabilization and no switch, turning the stabilization on or off is controlled by the camera menu setting. But the lens still has stabilization and that functions whether or not the body has stabilization. The switch is an added convenience.


It's very simple...if there is a switch...you have lens IBIS built in.
If there is no switch...the lens is relying on the camera's IBIS...with Sony.

Believe me...they would go out of their way to show you a switch...it sells lenses.

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Mar 20, 2022 15:06:41   #
sgomboz Loc: Chicago
 
I actually started to look at the A7C.. maybe a good alternative.. I will have to research this… thank you

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Mar 20, 2022 15:34:17   #
David33316
 
At the moment the 6400 and A7c are very scarce. I sold my 6500 and I'm very pleased with it. Your welcome

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Mar 20, 2022 16:06:27   #
MDI Mainer
 
Canisdirus wrote:
It's very simple...if there is a switch...you have lens IBIS built in.
If there is no switch...the lens is relying on the camera's IBIS...with Sony.

Believe me...they would go out of their way to show you a switch...it sells lenses.


Wrong. OSS and no switch, just one example.

https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/lenses/aps-c-e-mount/p/sel35f18

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Mar 20, 2022 16:43:41   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
Another vote to stay with fun frame unless you are a birder. Like the post above says , if you want another body, look at the A7C, which is the most compact full frame mirrorless camera available anywhere!

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Mar 20, 2022 18:43:21   #
Canisdirus
 
MDI Mainer wrote:


Like I said...most...not all.

IBIS on lenses is far more prevalent with Canon and Nikon...

Frankly, on anything less than 200mm ... it's just marketing.

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Mar 20, 2022 20:57:52   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
sgomboz wrote:
I am considering purchasing a Sony A6400 cropped sensor camera. My main camera is a Sony A7 iii. Just wondering if anyone uses this camera and could give me some insight.


The A6400 has a more densely pack sensor, newer focusing system and smaller overall size. The downside is more High ISO noise. Sony Crop and full frame lenses will work on both cameras.

If you shoot birds, sports or wildlife the crop camera will serve you better...Topaz eliminates the noise. The A7III does better in the other photo genres.

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Mar 20, 2022 21:13:46   #
sgomboz Loc: Chicago
 
Thanks for the input.. I appreciate it

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Mar 20, 2022 22:39:33   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
Canisdirus wrote:
It's very simple...if there is a switch...you have lens IBIS built in.
If there is no switch...the lens is relying on the camera's IBIS...with Sony.

Believe me...they would go out of their way to show you a switch...it sells lenses.


I'm sorry, but this is not accurate. I have five Sony lenses for my a6000 (no IBIS), and all of them have OSS in the lens. Only one has a switch - the 70-350 - but each has image stabilization built into the lens itself.

The fact that four do not have a switch has nothing to do with whether they have OSS, which is built-in stabilization.
If you want to turn off lens stabilization in the four, you do so in the menu system.

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Mar 20, 2022 23:27:34   #
MDI Mainer
 
timcc wrote:
I'm sorry, but this is not accurate. I have five Sony lenses for my a6000 (no IBIS), and all of them have OSS in the lens. Only one has a switch - the 70-350 - but each has image stabilization built into the lens itself.

The fact that four do not have a switch has nothing to do with whether they have OSS, which is built-in stabilization.
If you want to turn off lens stabilization in the four, you do so in the menu system.


Exactly right.

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Mar 21, 2022 03:32:08   #
gwilliams6
 
I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and now own A7RIV, A7SIII, A1.

I think it is fine idea to have a Sony APS-C as a backup and companion to your fullframe A7III. I had my A6500 and A7RII at the same time and they were great together, and the smaller APS-C A6500 was compact and great for travel or anytime I was traveling super light. The image quality of the Sony 24megapixel APS-C sensor in both the A6400 and A6600 is excellent.

That being said I would recommend spending a bit more and getting the A6600. It has the larger capacity battery which is really what you want. The smaller capacity battery in the A6400 and in the A6500 didn't last long and I had to carry plenty of spares. The A6600 has the same larger capacity battery as your A7III and you know how well that lasts.

And the A6600 has IBIS (In Body Image Stabilization) like your A7III which is really helpful for stills and video shooting. That is what you need to have to be more on par with the shooting experience of your A7III.

You can pick up an A6600 used if you dont want one new. They are very solid built cameras and will last. You will get top-rated focus performance also with the A6600.

You can use your fullframe lenses on it too. I wouldnt buy APS-C only lenses. I did that for my A6500 and they were great but I wound up with two sets of lenses, fullframe and APS-C, so I sold the excellent APS-C lenses I had from Sony and Sigma and went all fullframe lenses. Sony , Sigma, Tamron, Samyang and others have excellent quality new and fairly compact fullframe E-mount lenses now that will go well with both your fullframe and APS-C camera.

The A6400 is excellent, but if I were you, I would go for the A6600 instead.

Dustin Abbott: A6400 vs A6600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pscPlvBRVFM

Camera Decision: A6400 vs A6600
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Sony-Alpha-a6600-vs-Sony-Alpha-a6400

Cheers and best to you.

https://www.facebook.com/GSWilliamsPhotography

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Mar 21, 2022 08:24:01   #
Canisdirus
 
timcc wrote:
I'm sorry, but this is not accurate. I have five Sony lenses for my a6000 (no IBIS), and all of them have OSS in the lens. Only one has a switch - the 70-350 - but each has image stabilization built into the lens itself.

The fact that four do not have a switch has nothing to do with whether they have OSS, which is built-in stabilization.
If you want to turn off lens stabilization in the four, you do so in the menu system.


Crop cameras have more of it than the full frame line...again...mostly marketing for everything except long lenses.

Again...not all...Sony maintains it's ibis concentration in it's cameras...other companies do the lenses...which ends up costing more.

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Mar 21, 2022 12:20:24   #
sgomboz Loc: Chicago
 
Thanks for your suggestions. Just wondering if the extra $500 is worth it. I shoot only photography, no video. I had a a6000 years ago and never had any problems not having IBIS. I will def early research this. Thanks so much though.

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