Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
A Bomb Cyclone??
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
Mar 12, 2022 23:31:37   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
[quote=robertjerl][quote=Retired CPO]And here I thought it was just the typical New York hype. We all know if it doesn't happen in New York, it doesn't happen...don't we? And if it does happen, it's the worst thing that has ever happened...isn't it? And whatever happens, it's always closer to the hot .357 load than it is to the light .38 plinker load... right?And here I thought that was Los Angeles.
What ever happened to preparing as best you can, riding it out to the end, and then getting up and carrying on with a story to tell the grandkids?[/quote

It is of course an Arabic word. In that part of the world they are pretty much experts on types of dust and sand storms even if they don't want to be.
Look here for pictures of some. https://www.google.com/search?q=haboob+arizona&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS937US937&oq=haboob&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l6.3678j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Several of those images are of the BIG one in Phoenix about 10 years ago and people who were there still remember and talk about it. It looks more like a giant wave of muddy water than dust and sand in the air and was over 100 miles wide when it hit Phoenix.[/quote]

Yep, I was there. It was a sand storm!

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 06:39:17   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
[quote=robertjerl][quote=Retired CPO]And here I thought it was just the typical New York hype. We all know if it doesn't happen in New York, it doesn't happen...don't we? And if it does happen, it's the worst thing that has ever happened...isn't it? And whatever happens, it's always closer to the hot .357 load than it is to the light .38 plinker load... right?And here I thought that was Los Angeles.
What ever happened to preparing as best you can, riding it out to the end, and then getting up and carrying on with a story to tell the grandkids?[/quote

It is of course an Arabic word. In that part of the world they are pretty much experts on types of dust and sand storms even if they don't want to be.
Look here for pictures of some. https://www.google.com/search?q=haboob+arizona&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS937US937&oq=haboob&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l6.3678j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Several of those images are of the BIG one in Phoenix about 10 years ago and people who were there still remember and talk about it. It looks more like a giant wave of muddy water than dust and sand in the air and was over 100 miles wide when it hit Phoenix.[/quote]

I was there for that one, though living in Glendale, it had dissipated to a large degree by the time it got to me - still a lot of dust in the air, though! On the exposed freeways, pictures showed it to be as bad as the heavy fog on the Los Angeles freeways. I don't remember the date, but one early morning, heading down to the ocean from Burbank for an albacore fishing excursion to the other side of Catalina, I counted 60 car wrecks on the freeway!

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 06:56:06   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
markngolf wrote:
Relatively new term describing the weather we are having in NJ. So, we did not have that kind of weather in prior times?? It is "new kind of weather"?
How about, "It's Snowing"?

I guess I'm not a Millennial!
Mark


Reply
 
 
Mar 13, 2022 07:47:10   #
nikon_jon Loc: Northeast Arkansas
 
"It's snowing" is a pretty mundane statement and you would be hard pressed to find someone who did not know what that means. 'Ho-hum'. But if you say "bomb cyclone", you now sound like maybe you 'got more smarts' than the average person and you could possible be an important 'somebody'.

My assessment is this. Education can be used to benefit your fellow man or it can be used to make you feel like you are somehow better and above your fellow man. What a shame.

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 08:13:31   #
Dannj
 
Good point, Mark! I kept waiting for something to happen but I wasn't sure what that something might be. There were some heavy winds at times but when it ended, I put my coat on, went outside, scraped an inch or two of snow off the car and went about my business. “Much ado….” as they say.😊

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 08:54:13   #
Stephan G
 
nikon_jon wrote:
"It's snowing" is a pretty mundane statement and you would be hard pressed to find someone who did not know what that means. 'Ho-hum'. But if you say "bomb cyclone", you now sound like maybe you 'got more smarts' than the average person and you could possible be an important 'somebody'.

My assessment is this. Education can be used to benefit your fellow man or it can be used to make you feel like you are somehow better and above your fellow man. What a shame.


"It's just a sinkhole." No need to know that it swallowed a seven story building. That would be one "somehow better and above".

Many of the official weather designations include the mechanics of the storm to differentiate them for the purpose of linking the preceding conditions for the early alerts.

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 09:36:09   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I think weathermen (oops--weatherpersons ) sit up at night working to come up with new terms, trying to justify their time slot on tv. I would rather they learn to correctly pronounce “temperature,” and quit saying “tempachure.” There’s an “r” in the word, people--use it!

I feel better now.

Reply
 
 
Mar 13, 2022 09:52:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous. Combine two terms that strike fear into people and apply them to a storm. And, of course, it must have a name. This one was Quentin. We had wind, cold, and 3" of snow. No bomb. No cyclone. Which term would get people to read/watch a forecast: "storm" or "bomb cyclone"?

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 09:55:21   #
cbabcock
 
I really don't mind that they use the term. It means, to me, that the storm is going to be more intense because of the deep drop in atmospheric pressure. Hurricane seems more descriptive and useful as a warning than "it's going to be a little windy."

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 10:44:20   #
Canisdirus
 
The term 'Bomb Cyclone' has been in use since 1980.

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 11:01:29   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
NickGee wrote:
Actually, the term has been around for quite some time, and denotes something quite more intense than a snowstorm. Here's a bit more information.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-a-bomb-cyclone/


Thanks. I did research the term. I suppose I'm a bit opposed to reinventing the weather. The earth is about 3.5 billion years old. It's likely we've had a "bomb cyclone" before!
Mark

Reply
 
 
Mar 13, 2022 11:08:06   #
Stephan G
 
jaymatt wrote:
I think weathermen (oops--weatherpersons ) sit up at night working to come up with new terms, trying to justify their time slot on tv. I would rather they learn to correctly pronounce “temperature,” and quit saying “tempachure.” There’s an “r” in the word, people--use it!

I feel better now.
I think weathermen (oops--weatherpersons img src=... (show quote)


Let's toss in "seasonably" for "seasonal".


Reply
Mar 13, 2022 11:43:04   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
And they name them. Why?

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 12:11:51   #
Stephan G
 
For the heck of it, citing one of the replies to "What is a bomb cyclone?":

A bomb cyclone, which occurs through the process known as bombogenesis, is basically a winter hurricane.

Reply
Mar 13, 2022 12:14:25   #
Stephan G
 
Stephan G wrote:
For the heck of it, citing one of the replies to "What is a bomb cyclone?":

A bomb cyclone, which occurs through the process known as bombogenesis, is basically a winter hurricane.




And:

Technically speaking, a storm undergoes bombogenesis when it's central low pressure drops at least 24 millibars in 24 hours, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). (A millibar is a unit of pressure that essentially measures the weight of the atmosphere overhead. Typical sea-level pressure is about 1,010 millibars.)

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.