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Mar 4, 2022 14:05:32   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Triple G wrote:
Here’s a great fact sheet! The number of deportations decreased significantly under trump. How does that not create cognitive dissonance in his followers? Be sure to scroll through all of the charts.

https://usafacts.org/issues/immigration/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-Immigration&gclid=CjwKCAiAjoeRBhAJEiwAYY3nDJA5o3M-dNGW5RZ6QVfmheoErSygos8v09xBPyeoiqnIXA777Aw3mhoCSZ8QAvD_BwE


What a great question. And from out of the blue too. As you might know Trump is no longer the President. Joe Biden is the President now. How do you feel about HIM allowing 2 Million illegal aliens into this country. It makes no difference how many Trump deported does it. I suspect the circumstances were not the same. Is it not fair to say that since Trump did not allow as many into the country then his deportation numbers would be lower?

I asked you questions before. Are you going to answer them? You are not trying to be snarky are you?

Dennis

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Mar 4, 2022 14:09:42   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I have no idea how much the Trump version of the wall cost. But I do know it cannot possibly equal the Billions upon Billions of dollars it will take to pay of all of the costs related to those 2 Million illegal aliens Biden allowed into America when talking only of education and medical care.

Yes Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall and he misspoke. But then again why don't you point out EVERY presidential candidate who made a statement that was never done. In that regard Trump is no different than any other candidate from either party. Of course you also don't mention that at least Trump tried to have a wall built. No other President did that did that, not to the extent that Trump did. Explain that for us. Then explain how it is that other Democratic President have voiced strong support for a wall to keep out drugs and illegal aliens. Were they wrong too, do you attack them as you do Trump for his expressing a like desire to do he same thing?

Yes he did claim the wall would keep out drugs and illegal aliens just as has been said by everybody else. BUT nobody claimed the wall would keep out EVERY drug and EVERY illegal alien.

Trump's wall was far superior than any other section of the wall built previously and you know it. Trump fought Democrats every for every foot of the wall that was erected.

Now you are just getting into your normal bullshit comments. I would tend to agree with you but every OTHER time I have agreed with you there has been instant violent outbursts from you. I have mentioned that numerous times now. You don't seem to understand that someone agreeing with you means they accept what you are saying and go along with that. You don't seem to grasp that simple fact for some reason.

Not willing to take back the jobs??? WTF does that even mean?

I have pointed out numerous times that we have immigration laws that should be enforced. Those here on the Left whine and bitch about it. Why not ask those very same people why they don't support exactly as I have mentioned any number of times, certainly whenever the topic of illegal aliens pops up. I have not seen you whine and cry to President Biden for his recent invitation and allowing of 2 Million illegal aliens coming across the border. WTF are you telling me. Tell him, tell Schumer and Pelosi, by all means tell your fuhrer, Biden, the real dictator in chief.

Dennis
I have no idea how much the Trump version of the w... (show quote)



Dilbert's Quote:
Trump's wall was far superior than any other section of the wall built previously and you know it. Trump fought Democrats every for every foot of the wall that was erected.
End of Dilbert's Quote:

Are you daft?

One can take a $100 sawzall to Chumps wall!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kejwd/all-it-takes-is-a-dollar100-saw-to-cut-through-trumps-big-border-wall

RAIN TOOK IT DOWN!
https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/23/arizona-trumps-border-wall-already-falling-down-after-flash-floods-15135971/

WIND TOOK IT DOWN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOebX099dG4



When you look in the mirror do you see a pinhead?

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Mar 4, 2022 14:52:19   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Dilbert's Quote:
Trump's wall was far superior than any other section of the wall built previously and you know it. Trump fought Democrats every for every foot of the wall that was erected.
End of Dilbert's Quote:

Are you daft?

One can take a $100 sawzall to Chumps wall!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kejwd/all-it-takes-is-a-dollar100-saw-to-cut-through-trumps-big-border-wall

RAIN TOOK IT DOWN!
https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/23/arizona-trumps-border-wall-already-falling-down-after-flash-floods-15135971/

WIND TOOK IT DOWN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOebX099dG4



When you look in the mirror do you see a pinhead?
Dilbert's Quote: br Trump's wall was far superior ... (show quote)


you see a cat litter box???

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Mar 4, 2022 15:20:01   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Conjecture isn't based on facts.


Nope, it's a fact.

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Mar 4, 2022 15:24:37   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Dilbert's Quote:
Trump's wall was far superior than any other section of the wall built previously and you know it. Trump fought Democrats every for every foot of the wall that was erected.
End of Dilbert's Quote:

Are you daft?

One can take a $100 sawzall to Chumps wall!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kejwd/all-it-takes-is-a-dollar100-saw-to-cut-through-trumps-big-border-wall

RAIN TOOK IT DOWN!
https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/23/arizona-trumps-border-wall-already-falling-down-after-flash-floods-15135971/

WIND TOOK IT DOWN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOebX099dG4



When you look in the mirror do you see a pinhead?
Dilbert's Quote: br Trump's wall was far superior ... (show quote)


MGYRFS lol

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Mar 4, 2022 19:36:06   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
SOMETIMES one must amputate a hand to save an arm. SOMETIMES one can save the arm without amputating the hand. MOST OFTEN, if one is willing to bend a little, one can save both the hand and the arm.
The key word is SOMETIMES.....it is not a case of "all or nothing". The moral of the story being that SOMETIMES the few might have to sacrifice for the benefit of the whole but most often we can all be winners.

There have been cases where, although it adds a mile or two, there is curve in a highway simply because it was easier or less costly to go around an obstacle than through it. Both the majority got their highway and the minority saved their park.

You seemed to want all people everywhere of every age to be vaccinated with no regard for personal choice or need. Why not work to get all those without natural immunity, those most at risk and those that have co-morbidity issues vaccinated and let the least vulnerable take their chances? Sort of like a curve in the road.....it might add a mile or two but the job gets done with less fuss and mess. (Unless, of course, it's the fuss and mess that is the real goal)

By the way, there's a difference between a tyrant and a real leader.

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Mar 4, 2022 19:45:17   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Wuligal wrote:
SOMETIMES one must amputate a hand to save an arm. SOMETIMES one can save the arm without amputating the hand. MOST OFTEN, if one is willing to bend a little, one can save both the hand and the arm.
The key word is SOMETIMES.....it is not a case of "all or nothing". The moral of the story being that SOMETIMES the few might have to sacrifice for the benefit of the whole but most often we can all be winners.

There have been cases where, although it adds a mile or two, there is curve in a highway simply because it was easier or less costly to go around an obstacle than through it. Both the majority got their highway and the minority saved their park.

You seemed to want all people everywhere of every age to be vaccinated with no regard for personal choice or need. Why not work to get all those without natural immunity, those most at risk and those that have co-morbidity issues vaccinated and let the least vulnerable take their chances? Sort of like a curve in the road.....it might add a mile or two but the job gets done with less fuss and mess. (Unless, of course, it's the fuss and mess that is the real goal)

By the way, there's a difference between a tyrant and a real leader.
SOMETIMES one must amputate a hand to save an arm.... (show quote)


And there is a difference between facts and what you slinging.

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Mar 4, 2022 20:05:27   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dennis2146 wrote:
What a great question. And from out of the blue too. As you might know Trump is no longer the President. Joe Biden is the President now. How do you feel about HIM allowing 2 Million illegal aliens into this country. It makes no difference how many Trump deported does it. I suspect the circumstances were not the same. Is it not fair to say that since Trump did not allow as many into the country then his deportation numbers would be lower?

I asked you questions before. Are you going to answer them? You are not trying to be snarky are you?

Dennis
What a great question. And from out of the blue t... (show quote)


Surely you must understand, on some level, that the *donor class/bosses have always wanted increased competition and insecurity in the vast low wage economy. It's not rocket science.

*Just quietly they don't give toss about abortion, guns, gays, etc. either. They only want compliant bums on seats, credulous bums onboard.

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Mar 5, 2022 08:55:29   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
dennis2146 wrote:
What a great question. And from out of the blue too. As you might know Trump is no longer the President. Joe Biden is the President now. How do you feel about HIM allowing 2 Million illegal aliens into this country. It makes no difference how many Trump deported does it. I suspect the circumstances were not the same. Is it not fair to say that since Trump did not allow as many into the country then his deportation numbers would be lower?

I asked you questions before. Are you going to answer them? You are not trying to be snarky are you?

Dennis
What a great question. And from out of the blue t... (show quote)



According to the Cato Institute, Chump failed at curbing illegal immigration but he was wildly successful in reducing legal immigration.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

And claiming he did not allow as many into the country meant his deportation numbers would be lower is nothing more than another Dilbert2146 wet fart.

Chump claimed there were between 30 - 34 Million illegal immigrants in this country. IF he had reduced illegal immigration, doesn't it stand to reason that he would have had more resources and time to go after those that were already here?

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Mar 5, 2022 09:32:44   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
According to the Cato Institute, Chump failed at curbing illegal immigration but he was wildly successful in reducing legal immigration.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

And claiming he did not allow as many into the country meant his deportation numbers would be lower is nothing more than another Dilbert2146 wet fart.

Chump claimed there were between 30 - 34 Million illegal immigrants in this country. IF he had reduced illegal immigration, doesn't it stand to reason that he would have had more resources and time to go after those that were already here?
According to the Cato Institute, Chump b failed /... (show quote)


Every time you use the epithet "Chump", I hear nothing but a wet fart coming from your general direction. Everything else you say is the stink.

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Mar 5, 2022 09:36:47   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
Every time you use the epithet "Chump", I hear nothing but a wet fart coming from your general direction. Everything else you say is the stink.



Ok... but, that's YOUR problem!

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Mar 5, 2022 09:39:56   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Ok... but, that's YOUR problem!


No, it's everyone's problem who are downwind of you. Which is the prevailing wind here at the Attic.

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Mar 5, 2022 09:45:51   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
According to the Cato Institute, Chump failed at curbing illegal immigration but he was wildly successful in reducing legal immigration.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

And claiming he did not allow as many into the country meant his deportation numbers would be lower is nothing more than another Dilbert2146 wet fart.

Chump claimed there were between 30 - 34 Million illegal immigrants in this country. IF he had reduced illegal immigration, doesn't it stand to reason that he would have had more resources and time to go after those that were already here?
According to the Cato Institute, Chump b failed /... (show quote)


You didn't read the entire article did you? It's all about context.

"Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration."

'Before the COVID-19 pandemic during the period from January 2017‐​February 2020, the average number of green cards issued per month was only down about 0.5 percent under Trump compared to from January 2013‐​February 2016 under the Obama administration with cumulative numbers down just over 3.2 percent. Beginning in mid‐​to‐​late March, the Trump administration virtually halted the issuance of green cards to people abroad. Without the COVID-19 immigration restrictions unilaterally imposed by the President, the issuance of green cards to foreigners abroad would have barely declined relative to the second term of the Obama administration."

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Mar 5, 2022 09:52:22   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
Every time you use the epithet "Chump", I hear nothing but a wet fart coming from your general direction. Everything else you say is the stink.

Posts that use terms like "Chump", "Repukes" and "Dumbocrat" are dismissed out of hand as juvenile trolling.
That truly reflect poorly on the poster, although that may be part of the intent.
Sadly UHH lacks an adequately selective and effective "Ignore" function.

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Mar 5, 2022 09:54:21   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You didn't read the entire article did you? It's all about context.

"Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration."

'Before the COVID-19 pandemic during the period from January 2017‐​February 2020, the average number of green cards issued per month was only down about 0.5 percent under Trump compared to from January 2013‐​February 2016 under the Obama administration with cumulative numbers down just over 3.2 percent. Beginning in mid‐​to‐​late March, the Trump administration virtually halted the issuance of green cards to people abroad. Without the COVID-19 immigration restrictions unilaterally imposed by the President, the issuance of green cards to foreigners abroad would have barely declined relative to the second term of the Obama administration."
You didn't read the entire article did you? It's a... (show quote)



Thanks for helping point this out.


Although Chump succeeded in cutting legal immigration more than he initially planned, he oversaw the collapse of interior immigration enforcement. In 2020, the removal of illegal immigrants from the interior of the United States was the lowest as an absolute number and as a share of the illegal immigration population since ICE was created in 2003 (Figure 3). Chump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration, continuing a trend begun during the Obama administration in response to their deportation efforts. As a result, the population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office

"Chump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration" THAT says a lot about him and his policies!

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