What is the role of an on line magazine camera critic? And should we trust their conclusions?
Jan 13, 2022 12:33:49 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I read Ken Rockwell review only looking for where the camera or lens is made. He is about the only one that has that information listed (of course all reviewers would have that information but none I saw list it in their review).
Made is a funny word these days.
A few years ago the CEO or President of Nikon said the 70% of the parts that go into Nikon cameras are outsourced from all over the world.
Autos aren't built in auto plants. They are put together in assembly plants. A number of years back the car with the most American made parts was the Toyota Camry.
I never check to see where a camera is "made" when deciding if I want to buy it. I want to know where the label is printed that states where the camera is made.
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Jan 13, 2022 12:37:32 #
Bill_de wrote:
Made is a funny word these days. br A few years ag... (show quote)
I just check for 5 simple marks that appear clearly on the body: C A N O N
Jan 13, 2022 12:41:42 #
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Critics can make or break a new camera model or new camera-changing concept. What emoluments might they receive from manufacturers in their review processes? Are those disclosed fully? Which concept cameras were discarded because reviews killed the market for a product. When have critics skewed tests to favor one product over another in a visible manner? These are just some of the possible questions in this thread.
I believe I read in Modern Photography magazine, its publisher, Herbert Keppler, who was also an editor and a photographer back in the day who said in an article about testing equipment that stuff that tested badly never saw the light of day. As our mothers said: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything!"
Nowadays, probably most photo equipment is useable and depending on the shooter's abilities produces decent images. These critics need eyeballs and clicks and are conflicted in that they have affiliations with manufacturers. And depending on the critics' criteria, equipment might be good "but..."
Be well! Ed
Jan 13, 2022 13:01:20 #
I used to read Ken quite a lot. That is until he started begging for money to support his growing family.
--Bob
--Bob
BebuLamar wrote:
I read Ken Rockwell review only looking for where the camera or lens is made. He is about the only one that has that information listed (of course all reviewers would have that information but none I saw list it in their review).
Jan 13, 2022 13:09:59 #
ROTFLMFAO
Those are politically incorrect in so many deliciously deviant ways. Pardon me while I look for my P.J. O'Rourke novels...
Those are politically incorrect in so many deliciously deviant ways. Pardon me while I look for my P.J. O'Rourke novels...
Jan 13, 2022 13:48:22 #
You can spend thousands on camera equipment. I read multiple reviews of a product before I buy. Some reviewers use a very scientific approach to testing which I like. Sources I consider good are PC Magazine, DP Review, Amazon
But look at multiple reviews. So you can figure out if they know what they're talking about. B & H is good. Consumer Reports. U Tube is good as well. I find The UHH's are also very good at telling how equipment is and how to use it. When you buy--know their return policies where you bought it--so you can return it if you don't like it.
But look at multiple reviews. So you can figure out if they know what they're talking about. B & H is good. Consumer Reports. U Tube is good as well. I find The UHH's are also very good at telling how equipment is and how to use it. When you buy--know their return policies where you bought it--so you can return it if you don't like it.
Jan 13, 2022 13:52:31 #
Jan 13, 2022 13:55:14 #
OldSchool-WI wrote:
Critics can make or break a new camera model or new camera changing concept. What emoluments might they receive from manufacturers in their review processes? Are those disclosed fully. Which concept cameras were discarded because reviews killed the market for a product. When have critics skewed tests to favor one product over another in a visible manner? These are just some of the possible questions in this thread.
I read many reviews while contemplating a major purchase but take their opinions under advisement. Some critics are very fair and knowledgeable, others are idiots.
Jan 13, 2022 13:56:07 #
Jan 13, 2022 14:05:03 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You can ask the UHH community for input, no bias there.
That's precious!
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Jan 13, 2022 14:06:28 #
I was once a reviewer/Technical Editor for Digital Photographer, Pro Digital Imaging. I tried to objectively review every digital camera that was assigned to me. Of course there is some bias built into reviewing, all based on experience. But as previous responders to this thread have said, my paraphrasing, you "take all reviews with a grain of salt" and let yourself be the primary reviewer.
Jan 13, 2022 14:07:42 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You can ask the UHH community for input, no bias there.
Of course, when if ever you read bias at UHH.
Jan 13, 2022 15:07:03 #
goldenyears
Loc: Lake Osewgo
OldSchool-WI wrote:
What emoluments might they receive from manufacturers in their review processes?
Websites can generate income from "click throughs" to other websites. As much as a penny every time a viewer clicks on a link, but usually only a tiny fraction of that. A website has to have a good reputation, a large following, and very "enticing" click-throughs to generate a worthwhile amount of revenue that way. That doesn't say anything negative about the quality of information or the sources for more information being presented. Websites with "pop-up" ads provided by an advertising company can be a different situation. Advertising providers who don't give a choice of what category of ads are popped-up might cause some visitors to leave a website because they have a negative opinion of the ads they see there.
Jan 13, 2022 15:39:46 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why are you yammering on about a camera from 2004? A camera from Sony, an undisputed leader in digital photography, especially mirrorless cameras? Sony, who in about 15-years, moved from nowhere to #2 in the global market of interchangeable lens cameras?
Can you find something, anything relevant to 2022 to discuss?
Can you find something, anything relevant to 2022 to discuss?
I cannot help you if you cannot read "or understand" the topics.------
Jan 13, 2022 15:45:59 #
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