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Dec 27, 2021 11:57:54   #
jtang2
 
When I was in a helicopter in Namibia, the 24-70 and 70-200 zooms (full frame) did the job for me.

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Dec 27, 2021 12:17:12   #
C. Loren Loc: MN
 
I think either of those lenses would work just fine. Remember that you can use the helicopter pilot as part of your zoom! He can fly closer to or further from whatever photo you want. At the same time, I hope the weather is warm enough that you can have the pilot remove the door on the helicopter so you can shoot through the open air! Oh, keep your seatbelt fastened.

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Dec 27, 2021 12:25:23   #
John O.
 
wrangler5 wrote:
The most useful advice I got before the one doors-off photo flight I took - probably 30 years ago, to get overall photographs of a large civic event (several hundred thousand in the area we were covering) from the air - was to bring some duct tape. Explanation: use it to tape the seatbelt buckle closed once you're strapped in, because there's a risk of your camera strap catching on it and pulling it open while you move around to get a shot. I thought you'd have to be pretty careless to let that happen, but I brought the tape anyway and used it as directed. And yep - my strap caught on the buckle at one point during the flight. Made a believer out of me.

As for equipment - it was long enough ago that I was using Nikons and Ektachrome (provided by the event) and almost certainly a mid-range Nikon zoom as they were interested in the overall crowd, not small details from above. It was a sunny day and I had polarizers, but even with one my recollection of the slides is that everything looked hazy, compared to the shots I took on the ground during the rest of the event. Perhaps not surprising given it was St. Louis in the summer, next to the Mississippi River.
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If you shoot wide open you will have a very shallow depth of field!

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Dec 27, 2021 12:31:22   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
...even BITD and using film I got pretty good results (and, yes, I'm flying the aircraft all trimmed up with the collective held with my left knee). I'm in a four-blade OH-6A "Loach" which didn't have a whole lot of vibrations (unless something was really wrong like blades shot up) and I'll wager tour aircraft are very much like that. That said, even back then I tried to get as much shutter as possible (I'm around a 250th for this one) so with today's equipment if I went up I'd use an 18-400 or somesuch and push the shutter over 1/1000th anyway...I'm pretty sure vibration effects would be minimized. Check that front seat guy, he likes me. ;0)


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Dec 27, 2021 12:33:54   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
C. Loren wrote:
I think either of those lenses would work just fine. Remember that you can use the helicopter pilot as part of your zoom! He can fly closer to or further from whatever photo you want. At the same time, I hope the weather is warm enough that you can have the pilot remove the door on the helicopter so you can shoot through the open air! Oh, keep your seatbelt fastened.


...yah, doors suck. LOL...

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Dec 27, 2021 12:38:57   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
chasgroh wrote:
...even BITD and using film I got pretty good results (and, yes, I'm flying the aircraft all trimmed up with the collective held with my left knee). I'm in a four-blade OH-6A "Loach" which didn't have a whole lot of vibrations (unless something was really wrong like blades shot up) and I'll wager tour aircraft are very much like that. That said, even back then I tried to get as much shutter as possible (I'm around a 250th for this one) so with today's equipment if I went up I'd use an 18-400 or somesuch and push the shutter over 1/1000th anyway...I'm pretty sure vibration effects would be minimized. Check that front seat guy, he likes me. ;0)
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I’ll wager you were the “hunter” in a hunter/killer team.
I was also a Loach pilot in Vietnam.

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Dec 27, 2021 12:45:59   #
cascadejunkie
 
Are you shooting through the window or will the door be removed? If the window can be opened, then you can point your camera through the hole and shoot at your heart's content; otherwise, you will have to fight with the scratches of the plexiglass window. Couple of years ago, I took a photo trip on a helicopter in the Chinley Valley with the door removed. The scariest flight of my life, but oh what great images I could take tihs way.

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Dec 27, 2021 12:51:37   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Wingpilot wrote:
As a helicopter pilot, I can tell you that long lenses and helicopters aren’t a good mix. There are vibrations you don’t experience with an airplane, no matter how smooth the helicopter is. Also, there is limited room in the helicopter, and likely there will be others in there with you. I would recommend either a 50mm lens or something along the lines of a 24-70. Longer lenses can reward you with blurry images due to the vibrations a helicopter makes. And a whole array of lenses will be difficult to work with. If you have the ship all to yourself, that would be a different story.
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Solid advice from one who knows.

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Dec 27, 2021 13:40:38   #
Our Gang
 
I took a couple of helicopter rides above Sedona, AZ, and it was spectacular. Just try to get in the front seat.

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Dec 27, 2021 13:51:18   #
jimnyc1 Loc: New York, NY USA
 
You might want to DM some of these shooters on the hashtags #flynyon #nyonair on Instagram. A lot of these guys are doing this a lot here.

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Dec 27, 2021 13:52:08   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
My only advise is to sit up front if possible. The angle of view is SOOOO much better and easier to shoot than sitting in back and aiming out sideways!

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Dec 27, 2021 13:56:42   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Wingpilot wrote:
I’ll wager you were the “hunter” in a hunter/killer team.
I was also a Loach pilot in Vietnam.


...so you know all the tricks! Nice to know a brother scout is here! Were you shooting back then? I have a collection I'll share with you via PM!

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Dec 27, 2021 14:20:33   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
Thanks to everyone for very helpful advice.

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Dec 27, 2021 14:20:44   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
dkeysser wrote:
My sons bought me a helicoptor tour of the North Shore (Minnesota) for Christmas. Should be fantastic. My question is: what focal length lens would you recommend? I have a 70-200 mm (105-300 on my APS-C camera). That is my longest lens. Do you recommend that? Anything shorter? Thanks for your advice.
Don


Wingpilot have you done good advice. Listen to him. And I'll add a little. You said you would raise the iso to compensate for vibration. High shutter speed does that, not high iso. You may have to raise the iso to get the high shutter speed though.

Here is an article from a very good source (Adorama). It says shutter speed 8 times focal length, so at 200 mm lens, you would be shooting at 1/1600 shutter speed. And between 5.6 and 11 f-stop. You would need to raise iso only to get a good exposure. Makes sense trip me. I hi used to fly in a helicopter once in a while, to get me to a remote power plant quickly on a problem. I sometimes took some photos and would shoot at least 1/1000 and got some good shots. They are all buried somewhere, if I still have them.

Here's the link, good luck.

https://www.adorama.com/alc/aerial-photography-tips-helicopter-plane/

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Dec 27, 2021 14:36:01   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
Frank, thanks for the excellent article; good advice. I am going to use a Sony 6500 with a 16-70 (ff equivalent 24-105mm) f2.8. I will be flying along the North Shore of Lake SUperior by Duluth, so the fall colors should be at their peak. Looking forward to it. Thank you again.
Don

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