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Dec 11, 2021 19:22:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Other than the rare occasion where I want to test something, no. I prefer to save the wear and tear on a camera/shutter for actual photographs I want to capture.
--Bob
Quixdraw wrote:
Well, it isn't really the same, because you do get an image to review, so unlike dry firing a target firearm, you can do more than just implant good habits. I do it fairly frequently, in varying light with different apertures and speeds, most times while sitting at my desk. There are various objects, and dog friend photos that would have a viewer scratching their head. I think it is helpful, particularly for low light work. Anyone else doing it?

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Dec 11, 2021 19:50:48   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
rmalarz wrote:
Other than the rare occasion where I want to test something, no. I prefer to save the wear and tear on a camera/shutter for actual photographs I want to capture.
--Bob


Thanks! If I recall, you have some cameras that aren't like appliances, black plastic blobs, and replaceable as light bulbs, or for that matter Refrigerators! I certainly don't treat Dad's Leica M3 I learned on that way.

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Dec 11, 2021 19:56:10   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You're correct. Though, my cameras are quite durable and are used quite a lot. I just don't "toy" with them.
--Bob
Quixdraw wrote:
Thanks! If I recall, you have some cameras that aren't like appliances, black plastic blobs, and replaceable as light bulbs, or for that matter Refrigerators! I certainly don't treat Dad's Leica M3 I learned on that way.

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Dec 11, 2021 20:24:56   #
Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana
 
I keep my Panasonic ZS 100 on a shelf within reach by my computer. I'm often trying different things with it, experimenting, practicing, or just playing with it. Typically, I will switch it to electronic shutter when I do that. As for dry firing, I always use a snap cap.

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Dec 11, 2021 20:44:56   #
BebuLamar
 
rmalarz wrote:
Other than the rare occasion where I want to test something, no. I prefer to save the wear and tear on a camera/shutter for actual photographs I want to capture.
--Bob


For my film cameras I use them so rarely that my dry firing is better for their health.

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Dec 11, 2021 21:30:35   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
BebuLamar wrote:
For my film cameras I use them so rarely that my dry firing is better for their health.


I Well know that situation!

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Dec 12, 2021 00:38:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
MJPerini wrote:
I can't speak to fire arms, but I'm not sure I see any value in "Dry Firing"a digital camera.
I do however think that practice with a digital camera is a really good way to get better at certain techniques.
For example learning to hold a camera steady, or learning to pan, or figuring out what combination of panning & shutter speed works best for the picture you want. But part of all of those techniques is the smooth release of the shutter. The resultant picture provides valuable information about how you are doing. You don't have to keep the pictures, but you can learn from them. With film, there was a real cost involved, not so with digital and you get instant feedback. Many professionals test everything they can so as to uncover any potential problems. We always tested lighting as well. So I think the idea of practice or testing is smart. "Dry Firing" a digital camera, not so much.
I can't speak to fire arms, but I'm not sure I see... (show quote)


The value of dry firing a camera shutter is right there in your post; SMOOTH RELEASE OF THE SHUTTER. The more you practice the smoother your shutter release will be. It is not the shutter wearing in to get smoother but your mind/fingertip learning the movement of the shutter release.

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2021 00:48:46   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
TriX wrote:
Yep - I do it all the time.

Not sure if it was/is true, but when I was growing up, we were taught to never dry fire a shotgun - always used a dummy Or spent cartridge. Supposedly it might damage the firing pin. Is that true or just an old wive’s tale?

I use a spent cartridge in my firearms. I only dry fire when I put rifle up. Releases tension on firing pin and greatly extends ts life. I have a several firearms that work fine that are over 100 years of age.

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Dec 12, 2021 06:07:59   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
TriX wrote:
Yep - I do it all the time.

Not sure if it was/is true, but when I was growing up, we were taught to never dry fire a shotgun - always used a dummy Or spent cartridge. Supposedly it might damage the firing pin. Is that true or just an old wive’s tale?


Had a Quackenbush 22 single shot antique. The chamber i think would/will have to be redone by a gunsmith because dry firing has made a deep dent in the chamber rim from the firing pin. Don't know if it would be so deep if it had had a cartridge rim to pound on instead of naked steel. Just a thought.

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Dec 12, 2021 10:10:19   #
cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX
 
When I get a new equipment, such as a long lens, I will do it to get a feel for the lens and to practice my target acquisition. Or when I try a new feature for me, such as controlling the focus point by using my thumb on the screen with the camera to my eye. By the time I get into the field, I want my actions to be second nature so that I am not thinking about the physical aspects of it.

I will also occasionally manually focus stack at 1:1 to keep the ability to get small, relatively even incremental turns of the focus ring, while maintaining a light touch that does not effect camera position. When I started focus stacking, where were no automated controls and it was strickly manual. With the advent of automated systems, I did it so that I had a backup in case my CamRanger ran out of batteries. Now that my camera has an easy setting to use and has certain technical advantages, I sometimes do a manual stack after I got the automated stack, because I just like the feeling of doing it manually.

Irwin

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Dec 12, 2021 10:13:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Doc Mck wrote:
I use a spent cartridge in my firearms. I only dry fire when I put rifle up. Releases tension on firing pin and greatly extends ts life. I have a several firearms that work fine that are over 100 years of age.


May I ask what type of rifle do you do this procedure, bolt action, lever action, pump, break open?

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2021 16:27:54   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Quixdraw wrote:
What this started out as was a discussion of practicing with digital cameras in a manner similar to dry firing target guns for practice. Apparently a lot of folks would prefer to get into a discussion of all things firearms. That was not my intent, simply an analogy. Works for me, and some of the photos obtained in the process are even interesting.


It is sort of like that story of where a fellow who is getting bored with the current conversation suddenly leaps up saying "Hark, I heard a pistol shot, speaking of guns...."

Also there is a whole series of jokes based on "Hark I heard a pistol shot"

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Dec 12, 2021 17:03:43   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
dennis2146 wrote:
May I ask what type of rifle do you do this procedure, bolt action, lever action, pump, break open?

Dennis

Bolt action only. More difficult with other types of actions. It could easily be done with double or single barrel, break open shotguns. Semi auto guns with empty magazines. Pump guns, lever actions, etc. I double check everything before pulling the trigger. Gun safety is the paramount concern. Never point a weapon at anyone, loaded or otherwise. A well trained gun handler will never kill anyone if a misfire occurs. His weapon is never aimed at anything he doesn’t want to kill.

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Dec 12, 2021 17:09:02   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
I've shredded countless targets, busted lots of clays, knocked down or rung a lot of plates and never killed a one of them. Obviously safe handling is paramount.

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Dec 12, 2021 20:39:42   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
pmorin wrote:
I rarely went to the range when i had weapons. Hunted thru all the seasons and always came home with some game, but just decided one day to stop killing for sport. Now i go to the market for food and i hunt with a camera.


So you let someone else kill your food. Going to the range at the very least just before going hunting is absolutely necessary to making an ethical one shot kill. Most people who care go much more often. How is eating what you kill, killing for sport?? Do I know how to spell Troll?

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