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Nov 22, 2021 10:04:37   #
srt101fan
 
Back in the olden days cargo ships had booms and cranes to load and off-load their cargo. Modern container ships are totally dependent on port facilities. This became a major problem during the. Vietnam war. It took a while to build up shore facilities. The Navy looked at a number of schemes for off-shore discharge of containerships. Not easy!

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Nov 22, 2021 12:53:52   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
[quote=cbabcock]
jeep_daddy wrote:
The problem is the government in California. They have imposed an EPA measure that won't allow tractors older than 2008 on their highways. Those tractors are expensive and the owner operators make payments for years on them and when they are finally paid off, they can start to make some good money. But now they are forced to get rid of their paid off tractors and make payments on a newer tractor. This isn't right. So now there aren't enough trucks and truck drivers to get the containers out of port. It's not the ships fault. It's not the harbors fault. It's the government of California's fault. ]

Hmmmm. I just Googled to find the truth about the backup. Result: It is not due to truck regulations. False social media rumor.
The problem is the government in California. T... (show quote)


Oh, and Google would never quash the truth! It is a fact that certain tractors are not allowed to operate in California (they may have temporarily lifted the restrictions to help alleviate the backup, not sure). There are thousands of containers swelling beyond the confines of the ports to the streets in contiguous neighborhoods and trucking companies all report a shortage of drivers so obviously regardless of what Google reports the problem is multifaceted but California regulations certainly contribute. Sorry, thought I was responding to cbabcock.

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Nov 22, 2021 13:44:45   #
cbabcock
 
Google is only the search engine. The news stories came from other sources that regularly fact check rumors on social media and rw media.

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Nov 22, 2021 14:22:36   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
Richard Engelmann wrote:
Just-In-Time is a concept for local supply chains. The Japanese companies that pioneered its use had local suppliers and transit time was just hours (or minutes), not days or weeks. Extending the concept to international supply chains has been a problem for many years already. Companies hired and promoted managers whose bonuses were based on minimizing inventory and they perverted the concept. The pandemic has only exacerbated the problem.

As far as non-delivery of Christmas gifts go, imagine the post-holiday sales!
Just-In-Time is a concept for local supply chains.... (show quote)


Our family is ignoring the "Christmas gift" issue......we're having a home made Christmas. All gifts have to be hand crafted or cooked. I know, I know.....how old fashioned of us.

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Nov 22, 2021 16:20:55   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
cbabcock wrote:
Google is only the search engine. The news stories came from other sources that regularly fact check rumors on social media and rw media.


You really believe google is a totally neutral bulletin board. They just like Wikipedia can and do prioritize order of responses as well as subjectively eliminate content.

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Nov 22, 2021 20:56:46   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
As a purchasing agent it became on time deliveries. But consumers are not consistent on their purchases. The reality is there is always something out of stock or overstock. You can't tell the consumer to buy regularly. If I want to buy ten toothpaste tubes the supplier will now increase his stock and sit in it.

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Nov 22, 2021 21:02:05   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
I think we caused the backup.
Last I did not buy anything. So the supplier reduced his purchasing of inventory because no one was buying.
Now this year I did not die and I have lots' of money saved. Buy, buy ,buy .
Instead of 10 cameras in stock there are only 1.

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Nov 22, 2021 23:45:42   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
The issue of the container ships as a supply chain problem is a misnomer. It is a distribution problem. The real supply chain issue is why all those products are made over there instead of here. Or why we are buying carbon-based fuels from OPEC instead of producing it our selves.

The "distribution problem" with the container ships could be solved very quickly with an executive order authorizing the military to go in and unload and distribute those goods. They are experts on logisitics and would have it fixed in less than a month. The problem is that it doesn't fit the narritive and the powers that be are getting the outcome they want that justifies their existence.

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Nov 23, 2021 11:10:20   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
The problem is the government in California. They have imposed an EPA measure that won't allow tractors older than 2008 on their highways. It's the government of California's fault.

Hi jeep_daddy...correctamundo! And to think...California recently had a recall election and the good people of California opted to keep the current governor. Betcha if the election had gone differently, all those container ships would no longer be waiting off-shore to delivery their goods.

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Nov 23, 2021 17:22:38   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
kenArchi wrote:
As a purchasing agent it became on time deliveries. But consumers are not consistent on their purchases. The reality is there is always something out of stock or overstock. You can't tell the consumer to buy regularly. If I want to buy ten toothpaste tubes the supplier will now increase his stock and sit in it.


An out of stock item on occasion is to be expected but thousand's of different products? Last year it took two to three days to restock an item, now it taking weeks, and most often months. The last time we had anything like this was during WW2 when we had rationing and a "stamp" system.

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Nov 24, 2021 13:19:44   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The builder witnessed a fire at sea, so when he built a ship himself, he wanted it to be as light and fireproof as possible. There are no wooden decks and lots of aluminum. The entire interior was gutted. It just wide open spaces now. They had to get rid of the asbestos. There has been lots of interest ibn buying it over the years, but that's as far as it got. Just cleaning it up would cost millions, and they they would have to build it from the inside out. It would cost hundreds of millions, and then they would have to hope that there was enough interest in sailing.

Still, I prefer the look of the ocean liners to the modern cruise ships. We sailed on the Norway, which was originally the France. That was a beauty, but it's gone now.

SS United States and generic cruise ship below. I'm glad we did all the cruise we did before the ships got big, crowded, and ridiculous.
The builder witnessed a fire at sea, so when he bu... (show quote)

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My wife & I have finished 2 cruises on Princess this year and never found the ships crowded.
We had the fun of our lives.

Have you tried it or how do you know?

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