Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Check out Panorama section of our forum.
Main Photography Discussion
Skintones in a cool environment?
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
Nov 14, 2021 18:13:20   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
I don't see any problems here. The only ( minor) thing I can think of is to Meter her face off an 18% grey card. Or maybe the old trick of the palm of your hand.

Reply
Nov 14, 2021 18:18:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Close to sundown, whites rarely look pure white (unless its a source of light) - everything is effected by color cast, although sometimes we don't notice it is there.

The mind makes <some> corrections for us.

Reply
Nov 14, 2021 18:50:28   #
Haydon
 
I use a X-Rite Color Checker Passport and get the correct colors through a profile generated and use the applicable white balance according to the sample shot.

Reply
Check out Photo Critique Section section of our forum.
Nov 14, 2021 19:45:33   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
love the picture. Her face looks too bright on my monitor.

Reply
Nov 14, 2021 20:05:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Close to sundown, whites rarely look pure white (unless its a source of light) - everything is effected by color cast, although sometimes we don't notice it is there.


Yes….. I’m sorry I am not clear on what your point is here?

OP noticed the cool skin tones and his question was “What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? ” Did I not address that question?

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 07:09:17   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
scuff wrote:
What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? This was taken after/close to sundown on an overcast, cold day. I like how blue it is because we were definitely feeling it at this point. But, I don't want her to look sick. I warmed up her skin a bit. How does it look? What do you typically do in situations like this? I'm torn between thinking she won't match the environment and wanting her to look right.


First of all, you sure about sunset, usually, even on overcast, it is usually warmer than cooler colors.
Anyway, I digress.
What do I do in situations like this? I use my quick selection tool in photoshop and warm her up (with photoshop of course you dirty mined person).
Or, you can change the entire scene by using the temp. slider in photoshop, yes Virginia, it is that easy.

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 07:58:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
That wouldn't bother me, unless, of course, her skin tone is much darker than in the picture. If you must change the color, you could try zooming into her face and working with that area.

Reply
Check out Panorama section of our forum.
Nov 15, 2021 08:00:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jim quist wrote:
Her face looks too bright on my monitor.


I like to be helpful.

Three articles from 2019 -
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/monitor-buying-guide,5699.html
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/buying-guides/computer-monitor-buying-guide-2/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/computer-monitor-buying-guide/

https://digital-photography-school.com/choose-right-monitor-photo-editing/
https://photographylife.com/best-monitor-for-photography

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 09:39:18   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
scuff wrote:
What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? This was taken after/close to sundown on an overcast, cold day. I like how blue it is because we were definitely feeling it at this point. But, I don't want her to look sick. I warmed up her skin a bit. How does it look? What do you typically do in situations like this? I'm torn between thinking she won't match the environment and wanting her to look right.


I don't think you need to worry too much when her face is such a small part of the image.

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 09:43:41   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
I'm pleased that someone else noticed the hands. Keeping them clenched tells us a lot about the ambient temperature, as long as the smile tells us she isn't angry!
I have no problem with the skin tone nor teeth with the photo as shot, but agree that if the subject girl were closer to the camera, some modification might be needed.

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 09:52:17   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Out of place. The face shows obvious over-cooked processing. Nothing else looks that clear and bright.

Reply
 
 
Nov 15, 2021 10:13:44   #
mnpacker1 Loc: Mountain Lake, Minnesota
 
Nice picture. Great composition. Maybe tone down the brightness of her face. Just a little. Over all a great take.

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 11:49:15   #
scuff
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...How does it look?" Epic vanishing point perspective...
Albeit maybe get closer.... Effective use of 24mm at f/2.8 typically requires getting up close and personal in order to have the talent dominate the frame... If you don't tilt the lens up or down and have it at approximately chest level distortion will be minimal and actually compliment this "Lifestyle" narrative...

Shooting wide glass is never easy... mastery comes with practice...

"...What do you typically do in situations like this?" I shoot a Gray (or White) card, shoot RAW and do final color balance in post. btw, her teeth have a yellow cast (not good) select them and add a Hue/Saturation Layer to kill the yellow color cast and tweak the brightness ever so slightly...

Bottom Line? Fabulous Narrative... superb acuity... Just get up close and personal with the talent... More than you feel comfortable with... Trust me here... been there... it feels like you're in their personal space until you look at the capture... that will reaffirm my inference on shooting 24mm on FF... Do this with authority so your model has absolute confidence in your workflow...

If your had increased this models size in the frame to take up 3/4's the vertical space this would have been a dynamite shot... You certainly got the framing of the venue right... Next time Get Closer!

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough”
The quintessential maxim of the great photojournalist Robert Capa
Enough said.

Thank you for sharing your epic visual statement scuff
"...How does it look?" Epic vanishing p... (show quote)


Ooo, thank you for those thoughts! Definitely a lot of meat to think about!

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 11:58:46   #
scuff
 
quixdraw wrote:
A VERY interesting photo. I would not do anything to significantly alter it, it has an Edge of reality quality that is quite unusual. Skin tones are within normal range, I would not worry about that. For future reference, get the model to take a few deep breaths, open her posture and her hands. The impact of that might surprise you.


Yeah, it was after closing and we were supposed to be on our way out. But, as we walked, I knew I wanted to grab the shot. So, I didn't really give her a chance to relax.

Reply
Nov 15, 2021 12:17:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
scuff wrote:
What do you all typically do with people if you have a cool background? This was taken after/close to sundown on an overcast, cold day. I like how blue it is because we were definitely feeling it at this point. But, I don't want her to look sick. I warmed up her skin a bit. How does it look? What do you typically do in situations like this? I'm torn between thinking she won't match the environment and wanting her to look right.


Custom white balance can help.

Fill flash can help.

Post processing with masking can help.

I know some folks who think using a Daylight WB all the time is smart, but I like my flesh tones accurate, even at the expense of ruining the scene balance. AWB is my least favorite white balance mode, because it is so variable.

Most of the time, on location, I'm using raw capture. Some will tell you that pre-setting a manual/custom white balance or any white balance is irrelevant when saving raw files, but I like a point of reference. I may dial in what I like in post, but having an accurate reference (target in the scene, or custom WB set at camera) is usually the fastest way to get to good.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 3 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Check out Travel Photography - Tips and More section of our forum.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.