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Is Putting Hot Pepper Sauce on the Bird Seed and Peanuts to foil the Squirrels Gluttony a Sin?
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Oct 28, 2021 09:41:09   #
nikon_jon Loc: Northeast Arkansas
 
jdtonkinson wrote:
At my favorite birding spot. Madera canyon, the manager has been trying the same tactic to discourage the wild turkeys, coatamundi and ring-tails from eating all the bird seed. It's not working well yet.
He may have to had more spice


More spice won't help. Birds don't mind the hot pepper. One of the best treats you can give an exotic bird, i.e. parrot, macaw, etc, is to hang a dried cayenne pepper in the cage. They go after it.

This is why the hot pepper ploy works with squirrels. The hot pepper has the same effect on them that it does on a human. I buy crushed red pepper at Sams club where I can get it in a large container and I mix it with the bird seed.

It does no lasting harm to the squirrel and it gets the job done to save money on bird seed.

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Oct 28, 2021 09:49:05   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Birds have very little or no reaction to hot peppers/powders/sprays etc. They have very small olfactory sensors/receptors and are basically immune. Rodents (squirrels, rats, mice etc) are not immune, so hot pepper powder and such works very well on them, we shoot it into our crawlspace via a leafblower and it is a great deterrent. Same for my water heater compartment and other areas. It will keep rodents/raccoons/dogs/cats and many others out of an area like my crawlspace, old cars/trucks/storage buildings/laundry rooms etc. Birds simply have no reaction - everybody else - yes!

It works outside but does degrade quickly in the exposed areas.

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Oct 28, 2021 10:34:24   #
Stephan G
 
olemikey wrote:
Birds have very little or no reaction to hot peppers/powders/sprays etc. They have very small olfactory sensors/receptors and are basically immune. Rodents (squirrels, rats, mice etc) are not immune, so hot pepper powder and such works very well on them, we shoot it into our crawlspace via a leafblower and it is a great deterrent. Same for my water heater compartment and other areas. It will keep rodents/raccoons/dogs/cats and many others out of an area like my crawlspace, old cars/trucks/storage buildings/laundry rooms etc. Birds simply have no reaction - everybody else - yes!

It works outside but does degrade quickly in the exposed areas.
Birds have very little or no reaction to hot peppe... (show quote)


And how many boxes of Kleenex do you go through on a daily basis?

"'choo!"

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Oct 28, 2021 11:08:08   #
Denny357mag Loc: Sparta,Mi
 
Yes what is the na,name, of the seed?

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Oct 28, 2021 11:19:51   #
vj62 Loc: Fairfax, VA
 
Anything to keep the #&$##@& tomato eating squirrels away is OK with me.

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Oct 28, 2021 11:55:27   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Stephan G wrote:
And how many boxes of Kleenex do you go through on a daily basis?

"'choo!"


None. No effect on me or family members at all....usage requires a modicum of common sense, you would not put it in a play area, or inside in open areas. I don't spend anytime in my crawlspace, and if a repair requires a visit, a face mask (seem to have a couplle of those) would negate any effects. Obviously, you don't want it in high/regular traffic areas, but in places like crawlspaces/outbuildings/water heater compartments/attics/storage areas/old cars/trucks and other places we don't go, but the critters do. No need for poisons (or smeling the dead critters that ate the poison) just blow in some pepper powder every couple months and NO CRITTERS visit- I call it WIN WIN! A pound of cayenne pepper for $10 goes a long long way....

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Oct 28, 2021 13:08:34   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Shooter41 wrote:
Later yesterday afternoon, I put out fresh bird seed and peanuts for the Mourning Doves; sparrows and Snowy Woodpeckers that come to my back yard early each morning. I learned the hard way that I have to buy specially hot pepper treated feed for the birds, or the squirrels come and eat it all, while they chase the birds i want to appear, away. So this morning I got up early to fix my coffee by the kitchen window and looked out to see if the birds have arrived yet. Much to my surprise, there was a squirrel, right in the middle of a tray of bird seed and peanuts, getting ready to take a mouthful of especially treated bird food, guaranteed to be "squirrel proof." After quickly turning on my camera, I looked up in just in time to see the squirrel's mouth hanging open and a look on his face that caused me to burst out laughing. I only had time to expose one frame before he took off like his tail was on fire. When you look at the attached image, please try not to burst out laughing out of respect for the squirrel. He probably wished he had some cold milk to drink. After having the squirrels in my neighborhood consume massive quantities of untreated bird seed from my feeders, I learned that I had to buy specially treated bird seed to keep the squirrels away, in the future. I am having a problem feeling any sympathy for them. Do you feel that placing bird seed covered in hot pepper sauce to keep the squirrels from eating it all is sinful or just a necessary precaution brought on by the squirrels inconsiderate activities? (TEE Hee)
Later yesterday afternoon, I put out fresh bird se... (show quote)


So, apparently it doesn't bother the birds?

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Oct 28, 2021 13:32:42   #
TonyBot
 
DWU2 wrote:
So, apparently it doesn't bother the birds?


No. And as a matter of fact, capsaicin is used frequently in feeding captive pink flamingos. Their diet in captivity doesn't include as much shrimp as in the wild, and the capsaicin is used to enhance/retain their pink feathers.

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Oct 28, 2021 13:45:19   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
DWU2 wrote:
So, apparently it doesn't bother the birds?


Nope, no effect, they don't have "the nose for it"..... tiny olfactory receptors, they can pull seeds out of a pile of peppers. We have fed our birds (used to have parrots, macaws, just parakeets now) and all love peppers, even the hottest varieties....but rodents, they run for the hills!

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Oct 28, 2021 13:48:09   #
sheldon minsky Loc: iron mountain michigan
 
David Martin wrote:
Effective deterrent to birdseed theft!

It's certainly more humane than the feeders that sense the weight of the squirrel and begin to spin around rapidly, flinging the squirrel off the feeder and into the air.


Name of the brand feeder please.I have as many as 30 of the critters at any time. can live with the grey and black tree rats however the reds need to go into a stew.

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Oct 28, 2021 15:26:45   #
B1rdr Loc: Northern Virginia
 
I use suet with red pepper as an ingredient (from Amazon) and it keeps away the squirrels. It does nothing for the "European Starlings" but they are preferable to the squirrels (AKA tree rats). Unfortunately they like to chew on my deck since I don't provide food to their liking. (They liked my deck anyway.) Red pepper does work to keep out squirrels, raccoons, etc. from your feeders, at least in my area.

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Oct 28, 2021 15:36:54   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
B1rdr wrote:
I use suet with red pepper as an ingredient (from Amazon) and it keeps away the squirrels. It does nothing for the "European Starlings" but they are preferable to the squirrels (AKA tree rats). Unfortunately they like to chew on my deck since I don't provide food to their liking. (They liked my deck anyway.) Red pepper does work to keep out squirrels, raccoons, etc. from your feeders, at least in my area.


Maybe Chohula should make a deck sealant!

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Oct 28, 2021 16:15:23   #
Stephan G
 
olemikey wrote:
None. No effect on me or family members at all....usage requires a modicum of common sense, you would not put it in a play area, or inside in open areas. I don't spend anytime in my crawlspace, and if a repair requires a visit, a face mask (seem to have a couplle of those) would negate any effects. Obviously, you don't want it in high/regular traffic areas, but in places like crawlspaces/outbuildings/water heater compartments/attics/storage areas/old cars/trucks and other places we don't go, but the critters do. No need for poisons (or smeling the dead critters that ate the poison) just blow in some pepper powder every couple months and NO CRITTERS visit- I call it WIN WIN! A pound of cayenne pepper for $10 goes a long long way....
None. No effect on me or family members at all....... (show quote)


Um- I was thinking about the squirrels, et al. (I do not know if they make squirrel sized tissue squares.) Just in case you have a PETA neighbor.



Side Note: I hate people who think they need to pepper their food in the restaurant to the point of leaving a spreading cloud. My system is sensitive to the point at which I do get into sneezing fits. Most of the time, I have no problems because the AC will handle the clouds. But every once in a while, there is one that gets in between my table and the point of exit or the entry/exit of the restroom.

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Oct 28, 2021 18:56:25   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
I feed both, problem solved.

Don

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Oct 28, 2021 20:25:15   #
cfbudd Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
 
Good for you!

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