Living without viewfinders?
Oct 24, 2021 13:02:20 #
Alafoto wrote:
In most cases elected officials have the same goal.
OIE!
Oct 24, 2021 13:23:30 #
radiojohn wrote:
Despite knowing better, I bought a used Olympus &q... (show quote)
You actually can purchase A viewfinder. It’s not the top quality as one already in the camera but it serves as an excellent help…
Oct 24, 2021 13:53:05 #
I just bought the Sony ZV E10 and was out shooting landscapes. The articulating screen on the back gave me a big advantage with low and high shots. I was able to adjust the brightness and had no problem. I did have small cameras where in the sunlight could not see anything. Being able to adjust the brightness and rotate the screen makes all the difference.
Johnny
Johnny
Oct 24, 2021 13:54:33 #
If you liked the Olympus "Pen", try to find an Olympus Pen-F, which has EVF. I love mine.
Oct 24, 2021 14:12:37 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
AndyT wrote:
Yes, sadly they eliminate them to save money, and in some cases they just can't fit them in. This is my Panasonic Lumix ZS-100 and it has a viewfinder. The camera is pocket sized making the viewfinder tiny, but it does work and you can view your shots outside in the sun with it. Even has a 25-250mm lens in there. It's a great little camera.
I have one of those and like it a lot for having both a 1" sensor and an EVF.
Stan
Oct 24, 2021 14:39:35 #
two of my grand daughters, ages 11 and 13, live with their parents in Denver, CO. when they showed an interest in photography, I got each an Olympus EPL8 (no viewfinder). Big mistake. Ihe girls could not see what the camera was pointed at in the bright, harsh sun, so they would not take pictures. Then got each an Olympus OMD EM10 v ii with viewfinders, but it was too late. Their cameras are now bookends. So much for nurturing an interest. My fault. I should have known better, but maybe Olympus should have kept the viewfinders in the first place..
Oct 24, 2021 14:43:26 #
goldenyears
Loc: Lake Osewgo
Longshadow wrote:
Amazing how designers/manufacturers "know" what is best for the consumer.
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I'll bet the manufacturers have a precise understanding of who is the consumer and what they want, and are wondering what they need to do to stay in business. An internet search for "camera statistics" provides a lot of information. One of the sites, 3dinsider.com/camera-statistics/ gives a summary of the precipitous fall of DSLR sales from the high point. (Sales of cell phones has dropped precipitously as well.)
It would be interesting to read what UHH'ers think camera manufacturers will have to do to remain solvent?
Oct 24, 2021 14:44:20 #
I've used point an shoot cameras for aboiut eight years. Outside, with the camera near waist level, you can see the horizon on the LED and set it where you want it and aim the camera at the subject. Even indoors I use the same technique. I don't take many posed pictures, instead, I take spontanious pictures of the extended family. If you have the camera up to your face, people notice and immediately pose. That said, the family likes the spontaneous photos. I know that because most have learned to igmire my camera unless I specifically request a pose. I send all the photos via Google Drive to the attendees and they can keep the ones thay want and discard the rest.
Oct 24, 2021 14:59:55 #
goldenyears wrote:
I'll bet the manufacturers have a precise understanding of who is the consumer and what they want, ...
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So how many UHH members have told the manufacturers what they want in a camera?
Where/how do they get their information?
Marketing polls? Has anyone done one?
Oct 24, 2021 17:34:34 #
Most of my shooting is outdoors. An optical viewfinder is a must. Will not buy a camera without one. I also have an Ipad that would be useful in my work, but it is usless outdoors.
Oct 24, 2021 17:45:32 #
DaveyDitzer
Loc: Western PA
How did the industry convince users that EVFs or optical finders were no longer needed?[/quote]
They didn't. Many P&S, and ML camera come with EVFs. This was the reason I got rid of my Panasonic P&S. Couldn't use it at the beach. Went to a Nikon P7800. Now my first MLSLR has a good EVF.
They didn't. Many P&S, and ML camera come with EVFs. This was the reason I got rid of my Panasonic P&S. Couldn't use it at the beach. Went to a Nikon P7800. Now my first MLSLR has a good EVF.
Oct 24, 2021 19:10:26 #
For me a viewfinder is essential. A failed surgery on my right eye left me with double vision without special glasses and extreme distortion in the right eye even with them. I can only shoot with the left eye looking through the viewfinder. Dor nw - no viewfinder, no camera, no photography
Oct 24, 2021 19:40:56 #
jtm1943 wrote:
For me a viewfinder is essential. A failed surgery on my right eye left me with double vision without special glasses and extreme distortion in the right eye even with them. I can only shoot with the left eye looking through the viewfinder. Dor nw - no viewfinder, no camera, no photography
Oct 24, 2021 21:16:45 #
radiojohn wrote:
Outdoors, I'm better off with my little Powershot A1200 and A1600 with real optical viewfinders.
How did the industry convince users that EVFs or optical finders were no longer needed?
How did the industry convince users that EVFs or optical finders were no longer needed?
I believe the industry was attempting to compete with iPhones and other cell phone cameras, and decided that EVFs were not necessary. Also I don't think that EVF technology was far enough along to provide useable viewing. They then quietly omitted that feature in a "wait and see" mode. If you were anything like me, and other photographers, you soon found that composing in bright sunlight was near impossible, so we complained.., loudly. I personally refused to purchase a point and shoot without a EVF for daytime use. Olympus made them brighter in the Pen models, but I was not satisfied and purchased an OM-D EM10 which was in the same price range and included a EVF. Frankly, I really don't know what they were thinking... Fortunately there are a few point & shoot models from Lumix, Canon and Sony(i think?) etc. to satisfy this need.
Oct 24, 2021 21:22:18 #
Beenthere wrote:
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Also I don't think that EVF technology was far enough along to provide useable viewing. ...
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Also I don't think that EVF technology was far enough along to provide useable viewing. ...
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Not sure what you mean by usable viewing.
My bridge camera has an EVF and it works just fine for me.
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