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Aug 25, 2021 08:06:24   #
RonKoris Loc: St. Helena Island, SC
 
I remember a quote I read about communication: “The trouble with communication is that we listen to reply not to understand.”

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Aug 25, 2021 08:26:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Unfortunately, that seems to be a myth. When politicians change their minds, it's called "waffling." If you can't accept facts and make an intelligent decision based on them, you're in no position to make decisions. So many people simply reject facts. "Raining? No, it isn't raining. It's just very humid." We're doomed!

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Aug 25, 2021 08:28:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
RonKoris wrote:
I remember a quote I read about communication: “The trouble with communication is that we listen to reply not to understand.”


I'm afraid that most people aren't even listening. They're just waiting for their chance to promote their opinion. Opinion seems to be just as valid as facts these days.

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Aug 25, 2021 08:34:34   #
bamfordr Loc: Campbell CA
 
samantha90 wrote:
There seems to be no middle ground anymore.


I add a corollary to that: people who double or triple their confirmation efforts when they receive information that confirms their opinion.

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Aug 25, 2021 08:47:02   #
cdayton
 
In math, that’s called a null set.

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Aug 25, 2021 08:47:57   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 

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Aug 25, 2021 08:55:08   #
onetimeduck Loc: OKC
 
samantha90 wrote:
There seems to be no middle ground anymore.


So right, Samantha. Even medicine is political now.

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Aug 25, 2021 09:16:04   #
bamfordr Loc: Campbell CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Unfortunately, that seems to be a myth. When politicians change their minds, it's called "waffling." If you can't accept facts and make an intelligent decision based on them, you're in no position to make decisions. So many people simply reject facts. "Raining? No, it isn't raining. It's just very humid." We're doomed!


Seems that people apply this to scientists, too. “See . I can’t trust you. You changed your mind.” New data. New evidence. Who cares?

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Aug 25, 2021 09:32:18   #
HOHIMER
 
samantha90 wrote:
There seems to be no middle ground anymore.


I do not agree that I will change my mind with just ‘new information’(hearsay/propaganda).
Only when that ‘new information’ is supported with relevant, rational and logical scientific data and fits within my personal moralistic framework, will I be moved.
And, just because you do it, does not mean I will.

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Aug 25, 2021 11:12:33   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
🤙🤙

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Aug 25, 2021 11:17:10   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
samantha90 wrote:
There seems to be no middle ground anymore.


Sad but true.

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Aug 25, 2021 11:33:25   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
onetimeduck wrote:
So right, Samantha. Even medicine is political now.


NOW? Just read a report in the Journal of the American Medical Association breaking down the billions of dollars that the pharmaceutical and health products industries have spent to influence legislative and election outcomes in the state and federal levels. It is certainly nothing new.

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Aug 25, 2021 11:41:04   #
2Dragons Loc: The Back of Beyond
 
samantha90 wrote:
There seems to be no middle ground anymore.


My favorite kind of people vs those who cannot bear the thought of not being right.

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Aug 25, 2021 11:49:10   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
👍 Be moderate. At least I think the far right and far left are the ones who are most likely to dig in, un-moved in the face of mounting facts.
Unless I learn otherwise...

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Aug 25, 2021 12:10:07   #
John3 Loc: Virginia
 
Truer words have never been spoken.

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