I hate Lightroom!!!! (Page 7): Like many other contributors here I have always organized my files separately from any program. My photography is event driven, so I organize my images...

scsdesphotography Loc: Southeastern Michigan

Like many other contributors here I have always organized my files separately from any program. My photography is event driven, so I organize my images by year, date and event. But I consider LR to be the premier exposure tool for photography. I like it better than ACR. I export my pics from LR as tiff files and finish them in PS.

agillot

still using picasa 3.If you do simple basic stuff , this is it .

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Lightroom addresses several "learned behaviors" of long-time digital editors and computer users. Everyone knows "save your work" or the variation "Save early and save often". Then you get into LR, and the software doesn't even have a "save" button, nor command, nor menu option, no 'save' at all !!!

Another 180% difference: no need to save-as so you don't overwrite an important file. The software saves your keystrokes into a database external from the image. The original image remains read-only to LR.

The Lightroom software is a new paradigm. It's a new model. It's a new way of working, a new way of thinking about digital editing. Most dogs can learn its new tricks. U-tube is free for those that need help, and everyone should start with at least an hour of free 'getting started training' to save themselves hours of frustration.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

swflaboatman wrote:

Took me a while to figure this out but..... whatever file you first import a photo(s) to in LR...leave it there and don't rename it. You can export it and save that somewhere else. Hope this helps.

I think you mean don’t move images or rename images outside of the Lightroom program. That will mess up the database.

But it’s fine to rename or move images using Lightroom to do the moving or renaming.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

scsdesphotography wrote:

Like many other contributors here I have always organized my files separately from any program. My photography is event driven, so I organize my images by year, date and event. But I consider LR to be the premier exposure tool for photography. I like it better than ACR. I export my pics from LR as tiff files and finish them in PS.

Exposure tool? What does that mean?

FYI - Lightroom is ACR with a different interface.

Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida

Longshadow wrote:

My thoughts -
I don't use catalogers like in LR or PS. More trouble than they are worth, to me.
I use File Explorer and my photo directory structure as my "catalog".
I either double-click on an image in Explorer, having a default editor assigned to that extension, or right-mouse click and "Open With" to select an editor.
I normally don't open an editor then go looking for something to edit. I peruse the images in Explorer.

Floats my boat.....

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

scsdesphotography wrote:

Like many other contributors here I have always organized my files separately from any program. My photography is event driven, so I organize my images by year, date and event. But I consider LR to be the premier exposure tool for photography. I like it better than ACR. I export my pics from LR as tiff files and finish them in PS.

LrC does not organize your images for you, YOU get to do that any way you want to. It simply mirrors the organization of your images on your desktop or external hard drive and then allows you to easily and quickly find images in a variety of ways. Also, the program lets you export an image, or open into another program such as PS, make your changes, then save and close the window which then places that new image right next to your old image, so both can easily be seen. There is no need to use the Export function and then open the image in PS and then save and close it, putting it somewhere else. I use PS all the time from within LrC.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

via the lens wrote:

LrC does not organize your images for you, YOU get... (show quote)

I think the deal is, for the people who organize their own images using other tools, they like those tools. If they want to move or rename something they use those tools to do that. If they were to use Lightroom to import their structure, then they have to use LR to move or rename after that. They don't want to have to use LR to move or rename things. They want to keep using the tools they have been using.

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

JD750 wrote:

I think the deal is, for the people who organize their own images using other tools, they like those tools. If they want to move or rename something they use those tools to do that. If they were to use Lightroom to import their structure, then they have to use LR to move or rename after that. They don't want to have to use LR to move or rename things. They want to keep using the tools they have been using.

However, it that person does choose to use LrC, then it would not make any sense at all to work outside the software. I was making the point in my reply to a person who was using LrC and wanted to be sure that they understood that the software simply mirrors whatever the user has set up and allows the user to access many files from within the program as long as they are linked. I hear so many times that "Lightroom lost my photos" when what people mean is they did not use the program correctly and they caused their photos too become unlinked.

ColonelButler Loc: Niagara-on-the-Lake ON Canada

70k file catalog and you have got to be kidding me if you have a personally developed system that is as robust as Adobe’s Watch some videos on how to set it up and you will find it makes a lot of sense

cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX

Longshadow wrote:

My thoughts -
I don't use catalogers like in LR or PS. More trouble than they are worth, to me.
I use File Explorer and my photo directory structure as my "catalog".
I either double-click on an image in Explorer, having a default editor assigned to that extension, or right-mouse click and "Open With" to select an editor.
I normally don't open an editor then go looking for something to edit. I peruse the images in Explorer.

Floats my boat.....

Amen brother. If you can't use a file directory you should sell your computer.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

via the lens wrote:

However, it that person does choose to use LrC, th... (show quote)

YES!
Use one or the other, but not both!
Moving or renaming files via the OS will screw up the cataloger data. The cataloger won't know that they have been moved or renamed. The cataloger won't know where the file(s) went or what happened to them.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Longshadow wrote:

YES!
Use one or the other, but not both!
Moving or renaming files via the OS will screw up the cataloger data. The cataloger won't know that they have been moved or renamed. The cataloger won't know where the file(s) went or what happened to them.

Position and name before loading to the catalog, if desired. Or, use the cataloger to do it. The key point is to have a stable folder structure so there's no need to be moving files around after bringing them off the camera card. If you ever get into a "oh wait, that doesn't work" moment in naming your folders, that shows you're wasting your time worrying about folder structures / files. Instead, all that "intelligent naming" should be performed inside LR, where if you don't like something, it's virtual and can be redone with ZERO impact onto the folders or files.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

Position and name before loading to the catalog, if desired. Or, use the cataloger to do it. The key point is to have a stable folder structure so there's no need to be moving files around after bringing them off the camera card.

No moving/renaming after the fact.

DVZ Loc: Littleton CO

Take a look ar ACDSee it is very straight forward and intuitive and does much of what LR does and comes with an editor to boot.