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Feb 23, 2020 16:18:37   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
speters wrote:
I have no idea what he says, never heard of the guy!


Look him up.

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May 20, 2020 23:28:00   #
Keen
 
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??


Years ago, when TAP worked in a camera store, selling lenses, Sigma was pretty crappy compared to most lens brands. What he fails to understand is that Sigma has improved over the years. Hahahahaha In the 1940s / 50s Nikon was pretty crappy....but has since improved a lot. Such is the way of things....make cheap crap today, put meager profits from sales to snapshooters into research & development, improve quality, sell Better lenses to serious amateur photographers, put more profits into more R&D, make better lenses in future, sell to pro photogs, etc. EVERY lens maker went through the process at some point in time. Sigma went through it later than most. If Sigma lenses cost as much as Zeiss lenses, they would still be pretty crappy compared to Zeiss lenses. Because Sigma lenses are better than they used to be, and cost less than Canon, or Nikon, lenses they are pretty good on a ‘Quality Per Dollar Spent’ basis.

For amateur photogs on a tight budget, Sigma lenses can be very good choices....especially if purchased used / refurbished in great condition. Sigma lenses do produce some great images...sharp, well contrasted, etc. They are also more affordable than many alternatives. I have one Sigma lens, and have no complaints about it. I will get my moneys’ worth of use out of it over the next 8 years, or so. As such, even if TAP were 100% correct, and it is useless after 8 years, I will have benefitted by owning it, and getting great images for Low cost over those 8 years. Nikon lenses are better built...and more costly. I own a dozen Nikon lenses, and have no complaints about them. They do as I expected them to do. If two lenses-a Sigma, and a Nikon, or Canon, or Zeiss-cost the same, I would skip the Sigma, and get the other. As Sigmas cost less, I do consider them on occasion, and even bought one...a 100-400mm zoom. Nikon has an 80-400mm lens, a 105mm lens, a 120-300mm lens, a 180-400mm lens, but-as far as I can discover-NO 100-400mm lens. So, I bought the Sigma 100-400mm lens. It was reasonably priced, and is built well enough to last as long as I will need it. Are there better lenses around? Sure...but they cost more, and may not fit into the niche desired. I would never pay Zeiss, or Leica, prices for a current Sigma. I do not mind paying Sigma prices for Sigma lenses.

One of TAPS’ complaints about Sigma lenses is that they do not stand up to abuse as well as do Nikon lenses....when dropped, banged into things, and such. That may be so....but does not become a factor if they are never dropped, banged, etc. I am an Epileptic, and I have never dropped a lens, banged it into a light pole, or such. Since I can be careful while using lenses, so can most other people...if they try. TAPs’ major complaints about Sigma lenses are generally Not applicable to modern Sigma lenses which are Properly handled by their owners. In the end, it is a matter of Quality level per dollar spent. For my money, Sigma measures up that way...especially when Sigma offers what Nikon does not. Sigma is almost never my first choice, but is not something I totally shun, either. Each photographer has to make his / her own decisions as to what provides him / her with value for money. Give Sigma a chance...enough to check them out, and decide based upon how well it suits you, or doesn’t suit you.

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May 21, 2020 00:15:01   #
Keen
 
TAP is: opinionated, crass, rude, biased, ranting, foul mouthed etc...all of which is part of his comedy routine persona...like George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, Don Rickles, etc, which go for shock value. You either like such, or you don’t, and TAP is well situated enough to not care whether you like it, or not. Some of his purely opinionated stuff is accurate, and some of it is not. I don’t care for his opinionated, biased, rude, insulting, etc, routine. I do, however suffer through it to get what grains of wisdom are mixed in with it. His non opinion statements are reliable. If he says a lens has OS / VR, an f/ 2.8 maximum aperture, etc, you can usually bet that it does have such. I never rely totally on any of his pure opinion statements, but do consider his factual remarks...in addition to those of: Matt Granger, Tony Northrup, Jared Polin, Kai W, F Stoppers, Mike Browne, Jason Lanier, The SnapChick, Lok Cheung, Adorama, etc. I listen to each, take each with a grain of salt, and weigh their facts, and opinions, with other factors. In the end, my own hands on experience is the ultimate decision maker for me as to whether I buy, or don’t buy. I much prefer the persona of Matt Granger, etc, to that of TAP....but that is me. Some people prefer TAP. That is fine for them. If you do watch TAP, do be careful to realize which of his statements are factual, and which are opinion.

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May 21, 2020 06:03:48   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Keen wrote:
TAP is: opinionated, crass, rude, biased, ranting, foul mouthed etc...all of which is part of his comedy routine persona...like George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, Don Rickles, etc, which go for shock value. You either like such, or you don’t, and TAP is well situated enough to not care whether you like it, or not. Some of his purely opinionated stuff is accurate, and some of it is not. I don’t care for his opinionated, biased, rude, insulting, etc, routine. I do, however suffer through it to get what grains of wisdom are mixed in with it. His non opinion statements are reliable. If he says a lens has OS / VR, an f/ 2.8 maximum aperture, etc, you can usually bet that it does have such. I never rely totally on any of his pure opinion statements, but do consider his factual remarks...in addition to those of: Matt Granger, Tony Northrup, Jared Polin, Kai W, F Stoppers, Mike Browne, Jason Lanier, The SnapChick, Lok Cheung, Adorama, etc. I listen to each, take each with a grain of salt, and weigh their facts, and opinions, with other factors. In the end, my own hands on experience is the ultimate decision maker for me as to whether I buy, or don’t buy. I much prefer the persona of Matt Granger, etc, to that of TAP....but that is me. Some people prefer TAP. That is fine for them. If you do watch TAP, do be careful to realize which of his statements are factual, and which are opinion.
TAP is: opinionated, crass, rude, biased, ranting,... (show quote)


I value his opinions. His biggest negative is that he is too wordy, repeats himself incessantly, and just loves to hear himself talk. It talks him ten minutes to give what should be clearly said in three minutes. Listening to him repeat everything he says three or four times makes me want to scream.

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May 21, 2020 11:32:51   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I value his opinions. His biggest negative is that he is too wordy, repeats himself incessantly, and just loves to hear himself talk. It talks him ten minutes to give what should be clearly said in three minutes. Listening to him repeat everything he says three or four times makes me want to scream.



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May 21, 2020 18:13:56   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
I was never a fan of shock-jocks, rude talk show hosts, comedians that victimize and insult their audiences or loud-mouthed bullies that self-style themselves as experts. I don't that photographic education has any place for bluster and hype.

Many of theses overly-opinionated and "angry" folks have some impressive fan bases because too many photographers are obsessed with all the latest and greatest gear in lieu of skill. The fact is, an knowledgeable, talented, and savvy shooter can produce excellent work even with relatively modest equipment. Nowadays, a high percentage of the moderately priced aftermarket gear is decent enough and will hold up well in "normal" use and Maintainance. If one tends to rough up their gear, even the top-of-the-line gear will eventually fail.

Perhaps it's my upbringing that formed my present philosophy. I did not live in poverty- my family always provided the necessities but I came up in a kinda rough neighborhood and expensive hobbies were not in the budget. I had an after-school job that provided some extra spending money so I saved up enough to score a Minolta A 35mm rangefinder camera. Our neighborhood auto mechanic and avid amateur photographer generously gave me enough hand-me-down gear to build a darkroom in the cellar- which also housed a coal furnace and a hot water heater. A Kodal Tri-Chem-Packt and the trusty-rusty Federal Enlarger enabled some basic printmaking.

Early education was provided by the free Kodak Data Books which I obtained by writing inquisitive letters to the Eastman Kodak Company. State Street. Rochester 4*, New York (Sales-Service Division)- I collect and memorized 15 books! *Zipcodes were not invented yet!

The next investment was a Karalrt fash holder and a supply of Press-25 Lamps.

In my first year in high school, I shot all the activity photographs for the school newspaper and the yearbook, The school financed my film, paper, chemistry, and flashbulbs.

My point is that I knew, at the time, that "fancy" gear was not in my immediate future so I had to learn to make do with what I had- follow the instructions carefully, lean-to judge lighting conditions, and exposure.

In my second year in high school, my after-school employment was elevated for the grocery store to the photo-studio where I was awarded the position of janitor, gofer, darkroom mixer of chemicals, and clean up guy, and master photographer of passport photographs. Then, I had access to professional equipment but even the venerable old Speedgeaphic was pro-gear but by today's standards it was almost primitive- nothing automatic, programmed, or computerized- it gave new meaning to the concept of MANUAL! The lenses were interchangeable but nobody changed them.

Wehn photojournalism went to 35mm, Leica was the ultimate system but not every freelancer or even staffer could afford that. The Nikon S rangefinder system filled the price gap. The basic Nikon became the workhorse of the photographic press corps. The shooter used them 'till the black paint came off and they still worked reliably- the didn't expire as per the shutter count! My point is that incredibly great images were made with the comparatively simple stuff.

I think a photographer or anyone in the industry only has the real right to call equipment "crap" is it is found to be unreliable, poorly engineered to the point where it does not perform in the FIELD, breaks down prematurely, and does not deliver service under hard use- I need first had information from reliable sources. I don't believe in picks and pans based on rumor, or neesserally, where the gear is manufactured or strictly going by brand name- even some of the top makes, have come up with lemons.

My advice to folks just entering photography as a hobby or a profession is to learn for the masters and experts but don't become a "groupie". Lear the separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to teachers, mentors, online tutorials, blogs, and courses. Do your homework- do the research!

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May 21, 2020 18:19:00   #
Zeke4351 Loc: Kentucky
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The Angry Photographer is not stupid, far from it; and he knows camera gear and lenses. But, he enjoys being judgemental, often negative for effect (Sigma lenses). He is arrogant to a fault, but with some good reason. Like any camera guy, one should watch him for information and knowledge, but take him with a big grain of salt.
He loves to hear himself talk, and spends far too much time repeating himself, re-phrasing what he has previously said; and then saying it again. He will talk for 15 minutes to say what could be said in five.
I will continue to consider his opinions after suffering the through his presentations.
The Angry Photographer is not stupid, far from it;... (show quote)


I could not have said it better myself.

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May 21, 2020 19:38:46   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??


Why do you bother with Ken Wheeler?

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May 21, 2020 22:59:12   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Black Elk Peak wrote:
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce, dolt, dullard, ignoramus, simpleton; informalidiot, cretin, imbecile, nitwit, halfwit, ninny, dope, dimwit, dumbo, dummy, ass, jerk, nerd, dum-dum, loon, chump, goon, jackass, fathead, blockhead, numbskull, dunderhead, meathead, dipstick, bonehead, chucklehead, clod, goop, knucklehead, lamebrain, peabrain, pudding-head, thickhead, wooden-head, pinhead, airhead, birdbrain, dumbbell, donkey, stupe, noodle.


And those are his good points

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May 22, 2020 08:37:40   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I rather enjoy him. I watch him often.

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May 22, 2020 09:23:49   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??


Don Rickles for the photography world?
Bill

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May 22, 2020 10:13:18   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
newtoyou wrote:
Don Rickles for the photography world?
Bill


No, Don Rickles was a comedic genius.
This guy is not even close.

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Aug 15, 2020 11:11:08   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Black Elk Peak wrote:
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce, dolt, dullard, ignoramus, simpleton; informalidiot, cretin, imbecile, nitwit, halfwit, ninny, dope, dimwit, dumbo, dummy, ass, jerk, nerd, dum-dum, loon, chump, goon, jackass, fathead, blockhead, numbskull, dunderhead, meathead, dipstick, bonehead, chucklehead, clod, goop, knucklehead, lamebrain, peabrain, pudding-head, thickhead, wooden-head, pinhead, airhead, birdbrain, dumbbell, donkey, stupe, noodle.

Couldn't watch more than 30 seconds.



Vaughan K.
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce... (show quote)


And those are his good points


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Aug 8, 2021 14:24:21   #
vma Loc: Idaho
 
He knows his equipment. Opinions are emphasized & he is usually right on. Crude but I can overlook it & learn from his experience.

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Aug 8, 2021 15:10:52   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
I have never seen a single photo he's ever taken. He got caught claiming photos were his... Guess what? They weren't. Claiming prints as your own work is among the cardinal sins of the photography world. I wish him the best...but, he lied to his audience, and that I cannot abide. I won't badmouth him as he does quite a job on his own.

https://www.chuckjines.com/the-angry-photographer-busted-claiming-other-peoples-work/

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