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Jul 18, 2021 01:34:14   #
Bret Perry
 
I went to public school, and liked most of my elementary teachers although I only remember about half of their names. Not the '50s, though, early '60s

But my nemesis was also my 2nd grade teacher old Mrs Bernstein. (1961)
My mom said she had it in for me because I was the only one who "beat" her grandson in the school's I.Q. test (I was good at tests).

One day during health class, she had me (the skinniest kid in class) and Mark (my best friend and the fattest kid in class) both stand in front of the class and proclaimed to the class that this showed that "white" milk was more nutritious than chocolate milk—because I always had chocolate milk at lunch and Mark always had plain "white" milk. And said I was skinny and weak while Mark was so strong and healthy (actually he was quite overweight and I beat him in most sports, even wrestling, I was quick and wiry!)

I laughed, and protested, and told her and the class that didn't make much sense, since chocolate milk had added sugar and twice as many calories and would make me fatter, if anything. (My mom was a nutritionist.)

Mrs. Bernstein took me by the ear to see the principal, Mr. Cozine, was was waiting in the hall as usual with his big paddle.

He took me into his office alone, and asked me why I talked back to the teacher, so I told him the whole story and we both laughed (he liked me). Then he hit the back of his chair with the paddle with a loud smack and told me to try to look like I was crying and sent me back to class.

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Jul 18, 2021 10:17:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bret Perry wrote:
I went to public school, and liked most of my elementary teachers although I only remember about half of their names. Not the '50s, though, early '60s

But my nemesis was also my 2nd grade teacher old Mrs Bernstein. (1961)
My mom said she had it in for me because I was the only one who "beat" her grandson in the school's I.Q. test (I was good at tests).

One day during health class, she had me (the skinniest kid in class) and Mark (my best friend and the fattest kid in class) both stand in front of the class and proclaimed to the class that this showed that "white" milk was more nutritious than chocolate milk—because I always had chocolate milk at lunch and Mark always had plain "white" milk. And said I was skinny and weak while Mark was so strong and healthy (actually he was quite overweight and I beat him in most sports, even wrestling, I was quick and wiry!)

I laughed, and protested, and told her and the class that didn't make much sense, since chocolate milk had added sugar and twice as many calories and would make me fatter, if anything. (My mom was a nutritionist.)

Mrs. Bernstein took me by the ear to see the principal, Mr. Cozine, was was waiting in the hall as usual with his big paddle.

He took me into his office alone, and asked me why I talked back to the teacher, so I told him the whole story and we both laughed (he liked me). Then he hit the back of his chair with the paddle with a loud smack and told me to try to look like I was crying and sent me back to class.
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That sounds like something I would have done. Teachers hate to find out they're wrong, especially in front of a class. The ones who hate it most are the ones who try to sell myths that are demonstrably untrue. When a smart kid calls them on BS, and illustrates the correct story or situation with math or original source facts, they get furious. As a kid, it's fun to watch, but not always if you're the kid who did the callout.

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Jul 18, 2021 13:49:20   #
OldJeff
 
I once grabbed the ruler and broke it when the nun was going to swat my knuckles. I was sent to the principles office where she took a 3' pointer and swatted me across my back, leaving welts. Did I tell my parents? No, or I may have received another lashing.

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Jul 18, 2021 13:52:33   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Students back then were taught Etiquette. I guess there was more of an emphasis on good manners back then. We always stood and, in unison, greeted another teacher who entered the room. We learned to respect our teachers, police, and anyone in authority, play nicely with others and how to behave in public, say please and thank you, to hold doors open for others and giving seniors your seat on the bus or train.

The nuns were strict on discipline, but fair. Some of the "punishments" they handed out then would today be considered child abuse, but we all survived, and were the better for it. We learned the 4 R's: Reading, Riting, Rithmetic, Religion. We prayed, we attended mass on Sundays and sometimes on our daily schedule, and went to Benediction every Friday. During the month of May, we walked in procession around the school, honoring Mary with hymns and culminating with the crowning with flowers of a statue of Mary. We said the Pledge of Allegiance daily.

Boys wore white shirts and ties and blue slacks. Girls wore appropriate blouse and skirt.

Do you have any memories of your elementary or parochial school days?
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I recall one older white haired teacher who would discipline us by having an offender come to the front of the class. She would hand them a wooden ruler and have them give her a few whacks across the palms of her hands. No one wanted to beat up this lovely old lady so her "punishment" method was very effective!

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Jul 18, 2021 15:24:33   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
OldJeff wrote:
I once grabbed the ruler and broke it when the nun was going to swat my knuckles. I was sent to the principles office where she took a 3' pointer and swatted me across my back, leaving welts. Did I tell my parents? No, or I may have received another lashing.


I was taught that you don’t hit animals, women or children, and men only as a last resort. I have zero tolerance with the concept of physically abusing children by teachers, (especially in parochial schools where love and kindness should be the message). Teaching physical violence begets the idea that violence is OK. It isn’t. I’ve managed to raise two of the most polite, well behaved, hard working and generally nice boys without ever laying a hand on them, and I’m sure they are raising their children the same way.

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Jul 18, 2021 15:42:49   #
Dannj
 
Beowulf wrote:
In the mid-50s, I attended a Catholic boys' high school in Rhode Island. Capital punishment was very common among the religious brothers and lay male teachers. Much beyond the ruler on the knuckles type, for what would be considered minor infractions today, boys were grasped by the collar and tie and several extreme force palm and backhand slaps would be applied. In a few instances, boys were actually beaten until they fell to the floor.

I remember one religious brother who would reward an incorrect answer by a punch to the gut. It was common practice for his students to spend time at home doing as many situps as possible, along with the usual two hours or more of homework just to harden themselves in case of erroneous answers.

During the two years there as an honor roll student I felt that the level of instruction in most subjects was lacking. I transferred to a public high school in the same city and found that the level of instruction was much more challenging. The teachers there were much more proficient in their subject matter. I still managed to graduate with honors and enter college.
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Wow! Capital punishment!?!? I thought my teachers were rough but the worst I ever got was a leather strap on my hands😳

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Jul 18, 2021 15:55:28   #
Menkaure Loc: Michigan
 
You can tell a million stories about the catholic church/school but they really end up being the same. Torture, humiliation and about a dozen other childhood-killing acts done to young, impressionable kids. I cannot think of bad enough names to call the "Spawn-of-satan" nuns I had to deal with. My unique story is my Sister and I were put up in front of the class and the nun said "This is what happens to you when your parents divorce."
I only hope that these creatures will get whats due to them after they die.

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Jul 18, 2021 16:18:50   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Ollieboy wrote:
If a teacher enforces the rules, the students get lawyered up real fast.



so true

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Jul 18, 2021 16:22:17   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
sb wrote:
We learned to duck down under our desks as if that was going to protect us when the evil Russians dropped their atomic bombs on us. They even showed us movies of atomic bomb blasts to reassure us that we would most likely be incinerated. We knew we wouldn't be believed by adults if we told them about Mr. Dunne, the gay math teacher, who bent down next to our desk and rubbed our legs whenever we were foolish enough to ask a question in class - which we only ever did once. We knew we would get smacked or beaten by our parents for most infractions even before being asked to explain what happened. We learned that black people would not be allowed to buy houses in our neighborhood and that it was time to go home if any black folks showed up at the swimming pool. Ahhh.... such fond memories!
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Sounds like you came from a pretty unique environment and makes one wonder why the family stayed there.

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Jul 18, 2021 16:28:47   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
Your school room looks like mine in Queens, NYC which I attended from Jan 1949 to Jan 1957. Your description also sounds a lot like what I experienced. Some former pupils have horror stories but in my 8 years I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I learned a lot, but also had parents who taught me along the way. I could read two years before entering school. We were not disciplined because we already knew not to give the nuns any problems! After that I went to a Catholic HS where I once got smacked in the face for not having my Latin homework to turn in. I could not understand what happened to it as I had religiously copied it from my friend in lunch hour while he copied my math homework!

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Jul 18, 2021 21:43:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bridges wrote:
I recall one older white haired teacher who would discipline us by having an offender come to the front of the class. She would hand them a wooden ruler and have them give her a few whacks across the palms of her hands. No one wanted to beat up this lovely old lady so her "punishment" method was very effective!


Brilliant!

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Jul 18, 2021 21:51:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TriX wrote:
I was taught that you don’t hit animals, women or children, and men only as a last resort. I have zero tolerance with the concept of physically abusing children by teachers, (especially in parochial schools where love and kindness should be the message). Teaching physical violence begets the idea that violence is OK. It isn’t. I’ve managed to raise two of the most polite, well behaved, hard working and generally nice boys without ever laying a hand on them, and I’m sure they are raising their children the same way.
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Public humiliation and corporal punishment are staples of an insecure culture. As a manager, I always dealt with discipline issues privately. Teachers should do the same.

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Jul 19, 2021 01:07:52   #
DRam11 Loc: Polson, MT
 
1955, first day of seventh grade, gym class. We were sitting in the bleachers listening to the instructor list rules and acrivities we would be doing. He mentioned baseball and I whispered to the boy next to me, “Great, baseball is my favorite.” Unfortunately the instructor heard me. I was called down to the gym floor and stood facing him. He asked if I had said something while he talking. Upon my admission he put a foot behind mine, pushed me down on my back, came down with his knee on my stomach, grabbed my hair and slammed my head on the floor three or four times, then from a foot from my face shouted, “Never speak while I am talking. Do you understand?”

IIRC he also wielded a wicked paddle, as did the gym instructors in high school.

I’m really glad those days are gone.

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Jul 19, 2021 08:27:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
mikee wrote:
Sounds like brainwashing 101.


Yes, but in a good way.

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Jul 19, 2021 08:28:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DRam11 wrote:
IIRC he also wielded a wicked paddle, as did the gym instructors in high school.

I’m really glad those days are gone.


Yes, but some people long for those days.

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