Mac or PC
May 29, 2021 12:37:38 #
I am a long-time Mac guy, and just acquired a 2021 Mac Mini M1 desktop with 16 gb of memory. Some issues: Luminar 4 from Skylum (and likely other programs as well used as plugins) does not work properly with the Apple M1, even with the Rosetta interface. I can edit the image in PS, save to desktop, open in Luminar 4, edit and open in PS - no problem, but a few extra steps. But using Luminar 4 in PS as a plugin does not work, and produces either a black screen or a purple image. Skylum is aware of this issue, but so far nothing has come down the pike to remedy it. So... a few extra steps until a fix is found.
Other than that, I love Mac!
Other than that, I love Mac!
May 29, 2021 12:45:47 #
mikegreenwald wrote:
I suspect your difficulties with peripherals and the Mac are related to lack of familiarity. I run several printers, scanner, various card readers, multifunction printer with FAX, all from both desktop and MacBook machines without difficulty.
That is probably a part of the issue. Although I have to advise my wife how to do things occasionally, I'm generally unfamiliar with Macs.
The other problem is that I'm a hands-on guy and like to get into the details and tinker. Apple doesn't want customers inside its boxes.
I expect that I could manage with a Mac but at the moment I don't see any real incentive. My current PC may have issues, but PCs in general work for me.
May 29, 2021 13:19:12 #
I feel so strongly about MAC versus PC for various reasons that even though my son is a director at Microsoft and can get me super discounts on PC's I do all of my photographic work on a MAC. I ditched PC's years ago other than a gaming laptop I keep to run some really old programs that run only on PC's.
May 29, 2021 13:34:06 #
burkphoto wrote:
It happens. People who bought the Mac IIVX, PowerMac G4 Cube, and 20th Anniversary Edition Mac screamed like stuck pigs! Those were Apple’s worst.
Very balanced, and every platform has its issues. I would include Windows Vista and Windows 8 in that category 🙀
May 29, 2021 13:34:38 #
There is no comparison… a Mac can run Windows but a PC can’t run Mac!!
May 29, 2021 13:40:13 #
Fat Gregory wrote:
There is no comparison… a Mac can run Windows but a PC can’t run Mac!!
So?
May 29, 2021 13:44:26 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
BrHawkeye wrote:
My first Mac was an Applewriter II
The Applewriter was Apple’s first dot-matrix printer. You were probably thinking of the Apple II, the computer.
May 29, 2021 13:49:50 #
I was a PC user for a long time and switched to MAC about 10 years ago. Why? Because at that time the MAC OS was simpler to use and the WIN hardware was terrible; such as poor screens. The MAC hardware was superb in comparison to any Microsoft OS laptops then. With a MAC, it was easier to set up a printer and move files around. Much of those advantages became blurred with the WIN 10 OS introduction; however I stayed with the MAC because of the seamless use between all their devices, such as phones, desktop and laptops. Some people object to the Apple ecosystem but I find it much easier to work with. Years ago, the photo and video software had a better performance on a MAC, again this difference is no longer the case. Most applications work seamlessly between both systems, with few exceptions; unless you have to use a Windows exclusive software, there is no difference. It comes down to hardware selection and price. Similar hardware configuration will perform the same on both.
May 29, 2021 13:52:19 #
Hamltnblue
Loc: Springfield PA
Fat Gregory wrote:
There is no comparison… a Mac can run Windows but a PC can’t run Mac!!
That’s because of licensing.
Microsoft is open, with no royalties required to sell software on the platform.
May 29, 2021 13:53:56 #
rkaminer wrote:
I was a PC user for a long time and switched to MA... (show quote)
Which ever trips your breaker....
May 29, 2021 14:12:37 #
I bought an IBM PC in 1982 and used IBM and DOS or Windows thru 2011. I knew Windows inside and out. When I retired, I bought a Mac. For the first time I could share calendar data between my computer and my iPhone and iPad, as well as with my wife's.
The Mac operating system interface hasn't changed since I bought my first Mac, although the switch from 32-bit OS to 64-bit OS caused some minor problems. I wouldn't change that for all the Windows versions that have occurred since 2011.
I quit using Quicken when I got the Mac, but everything else I used worked on the Mac, and I quickly found a replacement for Quicken. Granted, not everyone makes hardware I can attach to a Mac, and as I found out with my second Mac, I couldn't upgrade the memory myself. Having said that, I would not willingly go back to a Windows PC.
The Mac operating system interface hasn't changed since I bought my first Mac, although the switch from 32-bit OS to 64-bit OS caused some minor problems. I wouldn't change that for all the Windows versions that have occurred since 2011.
I quit using Quicken when I got the Mac, but everything else I used worked on the Mac, and I quickly found a replacement for Quicken. Granted, not everyone makes hardware I can attach to a Mac, and as I found out with my second Mac, I couldn't upgrade the memory myself. Having said that, I would not willingly go back to a Windows PC.
May 29, 2021 15:37:05 #
TriX wrote:
Very balanced, and every platform has its issues. I would include Windows Vista and Windows 8 in that category 🙀
Those two were Microsoft’s worst. My former company skipped both, using XP and 7 until no longer supported. 2000, XP with SP3, 7, and 10 were their best.
May 29, 2021 16:03:41 #
[quote=Hip Coyote]
The hardware upgrades on Mac were very expensive.
As I've posted, I started with a Lisa a long time ago. Macintosh always were overpriced (IMO) and always behind Windows machines in development so when my employer stopped paying the freight, I switched to Windows when I retired. Cheaper and better, I thought which is why I switched and I've never regretted it. Harry (on an HP Pavillion laptop even as we speak.)
The hardware upgrades on Mac were very expensive.
As I've posted, I started with a Lisa a long time ago. Macintosh always were overpriced (IMO) and always behind Windows machines in development so when my employer stopped paying the freight, I switched to Windows when I retired. Cheaper and better, I thought which is why I switched and I've never regretted it. Harry (on an HP Pavillion laptop even as we speak.)
May 29, 2021 16:08:58 #
[quote=hrblaine]
Who needs upgrades? Get the best you can afford and by the time you need to upgrade, you are better off buying a new machine. The old one will be too old anyway and not worth to upgrade; false economy to buy something that will need to be upgraded later. I keep my laptop for about 4 years and then get a new one, solves the upgrade problem.
Hip Coyote wrote:
The hardware upgrades on Mac were very expensive.
As I've posted, I started with a Lisa a long time ago. Macintosh always were overpriced (IMO) and always behind Windows machines in development so when my employer stopped paying the freight, I switched to Windows when I retired. Cheaper and better, I thought which is why I switched and I've never regretted it. Harry (on an HP Pavillion laptop even as we speak.)
The hardware upgrades on Mac were very expensive.
As I've posted, I started with a Lisa a long time ago. Macintosh always were overpriced (IMO) and always behind Windows machines in development so when my employer stopped paying the freight, I switched to Windows when I retired. Cheaper and better, I thought which is why I switched and I've never regretted it. Harry (on an HP Pavillion laptop even as we speak.)
Who needs upgrades? Get the best you can afford and by the time you need to upgrade, you are better off buying a new machine. The old one will be too old anyway and not worth to upgrade; false economy to buy something that will need to be upgraded later. I keep my laptop for about 4 years and then get a new one, solves the upgrade problem.
May 29, 2021 16:23:34 #
rkaminer wrote:
Who needs upgrades? Get the best you can afford and by the time you need to upgrade, you are better off buying a new machine. The old one will be too old anyway and not worth to upgrade; false economy to buy something that will need to be upgraded later. I keep my laptop for about 4 years and then get a new one, solves the upgrade problem.
Hahaha...
That's what I do. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Skipped Vista (went from XP to 7 when the XP boxes died), still running 7 on two of our three systems.
(One 7 box died. The remaining 7 boxes are about 9 years old.)
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