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Oct 26, 2012 17:53:22   #
Exposures and Art Loc: Murrells Inlet SC
 
$20 is MORE than reasonable. Four hours of your time, equipment & training, materials, travel $. Once you get established as the "House photographer" you can re-evaluate the price. Some 'freebies' to the owner would keep you locked in. Good luck with your adventure!

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Oct 26, 2012 18:01:58   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
jtipps wrote:
There is a Mexican restaurant that we go a lot that has a large banquet room attached and she has birthday parties, family gatherings, etc and she has asked me if I was interested in coming and taking pictures of guests, their kids, groups and so on. She said she might could pay me some just to be there but I would charge the guests individually for what they want for themselves. Quite honestly it sounds fun to me because I love photographing people and it would be good experience. I was thinking of asking the owner to pay me $50 to show up and charge individuals or families $20 for about 10-15 shots and that will includes a disc with hi res jpegs and also internet ready pictures. If they want prints they can take them anywhere or I will print them for a fee. there are as many as 100 people at some of these so if I can make something, have fun, gain experience, and maybe gain a setting for better pictures and more money it would be a good idea. If I try it and don't like it I can always not go back. Any thoughts or ideas?
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There are several online services which collect the print fees and print and send out the photos for a cut. The photographer still sets the print price, but doesn't handle any of the transactions. You hand out business cards, shoot the photos , upload them to the site, and let the service collect, print and mail out the photos. It takes you out of the cashiering business-- of course you are not guaranteed an income.... You would want some samples/portfolios to show.

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Oct 26, 2012 19:25:29   #
Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada
 
jtipps wrote:
Why shouldn't you just give away the images . . . it doesn't cost you anything to take them. Memory cards can be re-used . . . batteries are re-chargeable . . . you didn't buy the camera as a business investment, you bought it for your hobby of photography (otherwise you would have a pro-series camera and top-end lenses) All you are doing is going out for an evening's fun shoot, and hell . . . they'll even feed you![/color]

I shoot a D 300, not pro but a pretty good camera, I have 11 lenses 4 of which are pro and the rest pretty darn nice, 3 Nikon Flashes, quite a few soft boxes, umbrellas, snoots, grids, 2 different sets of triggers, etc, etc. I have been published twice, big deal, and have taken some really good images of about everything you can shoot. I am not a pro and don't profess to be, just someone who loves the field and wants to get better. I have seen your work and it is excellent, someday I hope to be 1/2 that good


Because some of them may have never had a photo taken by them except with a phone.

When you charge for your work you are entering the "professional" area of photography. If that is your plan then you'd better start to look and act like a "professional".
Not sure when we met so I guess you think I look like
a fat slob in cut off jeans and no shoes. I have been a "professional" in another field for 40 years so I guess I act OK, no one has told me otherwise.

If everyone that enjoyed their job did it for nothing . . . we would either have a population of poverty, or a population of extremely unhappy people. It shouldn't cost you your livelihood to like what you do.

]I am not soliciting anyone to shoot a wedding or anything even close. I am wanting to do something to gain experience, maybe help a friend, and possibly make a few bucks while doing it. If you or any other "Pro" got a call from a small Mexican restaurant asking you to come over some evening and maybe you could shoot some folks having fun at a birthday party I am quite sure you would not bust your rear getting over there, so I don't think I am infringing on any one by wanting to do this. Sorry if I offended anyone or made anyone feel threatened of losing business.

My 4 cents worth.

Just my 3 cents worth . . .
Why shouldn't you just give away the images . . . ... (show quote)


Guess you didn't get what I was saying.

First I can hardly be worried about losing business to you . . . you live in Dallas and I live in Canada. If you check out all the other threads in which I have commented, you will discover that I never put down aspiring photographers. I was actually trying to boost your confidence in shooting and charging for it as you deserve to do.

Why shouldn't you just give away the images . . . it doesn't cost you anything to take them. Memory cards can be re-used . . . batteries are re-chargeable . . . you didn't buy the camera as a business investment, you bought it for your hobby of photography (otherwise you would have a pro-series camera and top-end lenses) All you are doing is going out for an evening's fun shoot, and hell . . . they'll even feed you!

Maybe in Dallas you don't use sarcasm to make a point as we do in Canada, but this quote really says . . . you can charge for you service and be proud of it. Having said that, tonight I am doing a shoot for our local Seniors Community Centre that are having a "Pub Night - Octoberfest" and I will not be charging them for it as I am an active member. They will feed me as I will be there over the supper hour and will miss my meal at home. I also do not charge my family to take pictures at birthday parties, Christmas, etc.

I know you live in Texas . . . but don't draw your gun and shoot before you find out if the natives are friendly.

Just my 5 cents worth . . .

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Oct 26, 2012 19:30:15   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
Thank you for the post and ideas. You never know how something like this will turn out, may not get one person that wants them but then again there might be 10-20 or more. I went to one just to see what it was like and there were sure a lot of phones out and you know in a not so well lit place what those look like so showing a few after I shoot some might get some interest. What mother doesn't want some good photos of her childrens party she spent a ton on.
SouthernExposures wrote:
$20 is MORE than reasonable. Four hours of your time, equipment & training, materials, travel $. Once you get established as the "House photographer" you can re-evaluate the price. Some 'freebies' to the owner would keep you locked in. Good luck with your adventure!

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Oct 26, 2012 19:34:18   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
Thank you wedding guy, I have seen your posts before and I thought it was out of character for you. Sorry I took it wrong, good thing I just drew my gun and didn't fire.
Funny thing is I have several good friends in Canada and I know how you are and really I am the same way, guess I just read it wrong.

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Oct 26, 2012 20:29:45   #
CanonFire Loc: Phoenixville, PA
 
jtipps wrote:
There is a Mexican restaurant that we go a lot that has a large banquet room attached and she has birthday parties, family gatherings, etc and she has asked me if I was interested in coming and taking pictures of guests, their kids, groups and so on. She said she might could pay me some just to be there but I would charge the guests individually for what they want for themselves. Quite honestly it sounds fun to me because I love photographing people and it would be good experience. I was thinking of asking the owner to pay me $50 to show up and charge individuals or families $20 for about 10-15 shots and that will includes a disc with hi res jpegs and also internet ready pictures. If they want prints they can take them anywhere or I will print them for a fee. there are as many as 100 people at some of these so if I can make something, have fun, gain experience, and maybe gain a setting for better pictures and more money it would be a good idea. If I try it and don't like it I can always not go back. Any thoughts or ideas?
There is a Mexican restaurant that we go a lot tha... (show quote)


There are people that do things for the love of the thing and not for the money. If you are doing it because you enjoy it, you gain experience, and the money doesn't matter all that much... then just do it.

I don't think your doing some shots on the "cheap" in a Mexican restaurant is going to ruin the pricing structure of any professional protographers nor will it take work away from them or make it difficult for any other "aspiring photographer" to charge a reasonable price for work.

No need for you to lug a printer with you or a trunk load of gear. Just you, your camera, and a decent off camera flash should be enough. Shoot jpeg, don't over do it with post processing beyond a bit of cropping. Give them a disc or thumb drive with a couple dozen shots and be done with it.

15-20 bucks sounds reasonable, not sure about the 50 to show up, but that's between you and the owner. You're not trying to make a living at it, so 20 bucks extra is 20 bucks you wouldn't have sitting at home posting on UHH.

I get what it is you want to do and I get why you want to do it. So... go do it! :thumbup:

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Oct 26, 2012 20:38:37   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
Thanks Canonfire.
CanonFire wrote:
jtipps wrote:
There is a Mexican restaurant that we go a lot that has a large banquet room attached and she has birthday parties, family gatherings, etc and she has asked me if I was interested in coming and taking pictures of guests, their kids, groups and so on. She said she might could pay me some just to be there but I would charge the guests individually for what they want for themselves. Quite honestly it sounds fun to me because I love photographing people and it would be good experience. I was thinking of asking the owner to pay me $50 to show up and charge individuals or families $20 for about 10-15 shots and that will includes a disc with hi res jpegs and also internet ready pictures. If they want prints they can take them anywhere or I will print them for a fee. there are as many as 100 people at some of these so if I can make something, have fun, gain experience, and maybe gain a setting for better pictures and more money it would be a good idea. If I try it and don't like it I can always not go back. Any thoughts or ideas?
There is a Mexican restaurant that we go a lot tha... (show quote)


There are people that do things for the love of the thing and not for the money. If you are doing it because you enjoy it, you gain experience, and the money doesn't matter all that much... then just do it.

I don't think your doing some shots on the "cheap" in a Mexican restaurant is going to ruin the pricing structure of any professional protographers nor will it take work away from them or make it difficult for any other "aspiring photographer" to charge a reasonable price for work.

No need for you to lug a printer with you or a trunk load of gear. Just you, your camera, and a decent off camera flash should be enough. Shoot jpeg, don't over do it with post processing beyond a bit of cropping. Give them a disc or thumb drive with a couple dozen shots and be done with it.

15-20 bucks sounds reasonable, not sure about the 50 to show up, but that's between you and the owner. You're not trying to make a living at it, so 20 bucks extra is 20 bucks you wouldn't have sitting at home posting on UHH.

I get what it is you want to do and I get why you want to do it. So... go do it! :thumbup:
quote=jtipps There is a Mexican restaurant that w... (show quote)

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Oct 27, 2012 01:43:10   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Well i wish you luck , dont expect anything from the owners, unless there bottom line increases . But what is more likely to happen is nobody wants to pay 10-20--30$ in this day and age for pic in a restraunt unless its a real special famly gathering. Especaly when every one has a cannon elf or a phone camera in ther purse or pocket . It all sounds good but you will not make enough to pay for your expences. Been there taking pic and video of local pup bands . Spend hours down loading videos and pic off my camera. The only way i got rid of them was to give them away. I could not even sell them to the bands for a $1.00 a disk with 10 of there songs on each disk.

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Oct 27, 2012 01:47:52   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Go to you tube write in bony fingers band , bent rod band to see some video
That was done for free

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Oct 27, 2012 07:32:09   #
Pentony Loc: Earth Traveller
 
From WeddingGuy: "Add an inexpensive, portable, soft box and stand, take along the printer as suggested above, and give them no files on disc, but real prints. Want three prints . . . buy three prints."

To WeddingGuy: I like your idea of taking along a printer. Maybe I'll try that. I can set up a study table roped off from the customers so they can't spill drinks on my equipment and print away. Thanks for the suggestion. Well maybe not for then you may need to carry a paper cutter and picture folders?

Reminds me of my "old" days when I was shooting Polaroids and providing instant prints in folders. Say, where is Polaroid?

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Oct 27, 2012 08:54:24   #
CanonFire Loc: Phoenixville, PA
 
Bram boy wrote:
Well i wish you luck , dont expect anything from the owners, unless there bottom line increases . But what is more likely to happen is nobody wants to pay 10-20--30$ in this day and age for pic in a restraunt unless its a real special famly gathering. Especaly when every one has a cannon elf or a phone camera in ther purse or pocket . It all sounds good but you will not make enough to pay for your expences. Been there taking pic and video of local pup bands . Spend hours down loading videos and pic off my camera. The only way i got rid of them was to give them away. I could not even sell them to the bands for a $1.00 a disk with 10 of there songs on each disk.
Well i wish you luck , dont expect anything from t... (show quote)


Gee, whatever happened to giving a little constructive advice? You could have said something along the lines of:

"I tried something similar taking pics of local pup bands but it didn't work out for me. Not sure if this would work out for you, especially in this economy, but you have nothing to lose. Try it and if it doesn't work out you don't have to continue."

It's not like he's investing tons of money in equipment to do this. All he's investing is time...

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Oct 27, 2012 09:01:49   #
CanonFire Loc: Phoenixville, PA
 
Pentony wrote:
Reminds me of my "old" days when I was shooting Polaroids and providing instant prints in folders. Say, where is Polaroid?


http://www.amazon.com/Polaroid-Digital-Instant-Print-Camera

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Oct 27, 2012 09:04:46   #
CanonFire Loc: Phoenixville, PA
 
[quote=CanonFire]
Pentony wrote:
Reminds me of my "old" days when I was shooting Polaroids and providing instant prints in folders. Say, where is Polaroid?


http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=polaroid%20z2300&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Apolaroid%20z2300

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Oct 27, 2012 12:45:53   #
Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada
 
Pentony wrote:
From WeddingGuy: "Add an inexpensive, portable, soft box and stand, take along the printer as suggested above, and give them no files on disc, but real prints. Want three prints . . . buy three prints."

To WeddingGuy: I like your idea of taking along a printer. Maybe I'll try that. I can set up a study table roped off from the customers so they can't spill drinks on my equipment and print away. Thanks for the suggestion. Well maybe not for then you may need to carry a paper cutter and picture folders?

Reminds me of my "old" days when I was shooting Polaroids and providing instant prints in folders. Say, where is Polaroid?
From WeddingGuy: "Add an inexpensive, portab... (show quote)


Pictures folders are not really needed, but if I was going to do that I would use the folded blank cards and envelopes from Michaels and stick the print on with a glue stick. They look good and can be purchased 50 at a time with their 50% off coupons for about $9.00 per pkg of 50.

For the printing, I would have my paper (best quality available) pre-cut to 4x6/5x7 . . whatever.

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Oct 29, 2012 11:53:05   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Canon fire



I really liked simon cowell. He told it like it is, no false hopes

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