The Real Truth About the Israel/Palestine Conflict For Those Who Think Israel Is The Problem
May 19, 2021 19:56:02 #
I just received the following from a friend. It is the most accurate account of what's really going on between Israel and Palestine. For those of you who think Israel is in the wrong, this is a must read.
"I just received this from a friend. IT SAYS IT ALL, but most will ignore it. Sadly, a lot of Jews will mock it. Good old Chuckie Schumer will ignore it and find a way to diminish its truth and importance. Read it through. IT IS THE TRUTH."
An Israeli's take on what is happening in the Middle East
"I've been quiet, quiet from the shelter, because I cannot face the hatred, and the vile antisemitism that rears its ugly head every time there is a war.
Gaza, poor, poor Gaza, which claimed Israel kept the vaccine from their population, that Israel starved and killed children, that Israel is a colonizer, apartheid nation....said do not send in police to Jerusalem, do not try to maintain order, or we will bomb your cities. We will bomb the whole country. Bomb a country over a legal dispute about unpaid rent from property bought in 1875?
We pay our bills to the Israel Electric Corp every month. But in poor Gaza, they don't pay theirs. Israeli citizens subsidize their power. So they can make bombs, and tunnels, to terrorize Israeli citizens. Think about that for a second. We subsidize the terror they rain down upon us.
Poor Gaza. With no food, no fuel, no power, no vaccines.
Poor Gaza, except with enough money to buy and launch 700 missiles with thousands more stockpiled for tomorrow, or the next day. (Each one is $45,000 USD so today's war cost....$31,500,000USD)
But poor Gaza, with no schools, and no new hospitals, but with resources to build advanced tunnels, terror attack tunnel systems stretching miles deep into Israel. (Estimated cost: 150 million USD)
Poor Gaza, kept from developing, from air travel, from running their own country as they wish.
Well poor Gaza today sent 700 missiles at Israeli civilians, burned thousands of acres of crops and food with terror ballons filled with explosives, and launched multiple cyber attacks around the world. Oh, and targeted a civilian airport, which is now closed. Israel has one airport. We are now all stuck here together. Poor Gaza fired at an AIRPORT filled with civilian flights. On purpose.
Poor Gaza, who won't feed their children with the trucks of aid paid for and delivered by the State of Israel and her citizens, that arrive every freaking day, while claiming to the world she is starving. Instead, HAMAS leaders are billionaires and Biden just promised billions more.
Poor Gaza, where children are forced to martyr themselves for Hamas leadership who couldn't give a rat's ass if those same kids live or die.
Poor Gaza. Someone please help the damn Gazan people..We have tried for 40+ years, but their corrupt leaders, non existent desire for peace and inability to gain control of their extremist elements leaves us here.
We have no war in our hearts. We want peace and security and quiet borders for everyone. We seek to destroy nothing, to kill no one. We don't want land, and in fact, keep giving it away in exchange for promised PEACE. What horrible conquering nation of colonizers does that?? You will not hear a true zionist screaming DEATH to all ARABS or kill the Muslim. But every day, that is the call, to kill all the Jews. Anywhere you can find us, using whatever means necessary. Today the call from the Mosques was that we should be beheaded using whatever means necessary, wherever we can be found.
I am tired. And angry frankly, at the world, for literally throwing us to the wolves. You Jews, go over there, back to where you came from. We really do not want you here, or there or anywhere. Oh wait, you went there, to that wasteland of nothingness, to that place you came from. Hang on, we've reconsidered, the UN has unilaterally decided, you should not be there either.
When you support groups singing "FROM the RIVER to the SEA, Palestine will be FREE". I beg you to look at a freaking map. What RIVER and what SEA? The only RIVER is the Jordan, and the only Sea the Mediterranean. So where does that leave the JEWS? It leaves us absolutely nowhere. Floating dead in the Mediterranean, I guess?
And so we come to the real crux of the issue I think. We are tolerated (maybe), for a time, perhaps. But for 2000 years we have wandered after being exiled from Israel, always hated, always persecuted, always unwanted. And so let's just get real. There are just 13 million Jews left in the entire world, and most folks, maybe even you, honestly wish there were none.
Yes, little Israel is home to just 7 million Jews. Little Israel is home to a total of 9.5 million people. Little Israel is 9 freaking miles wide at some points, and in 1948, when it was established, it was a barren wasteland of nothingness that no one wanted, and everyone assumed would be a place those damn Jewish refugees from the death camps of Germany and Poland would go to quielty suffer and maybe, if the world was lucky, would be attacked by all of the Arab armies, lose and die.
Only WE DIDN'T. Only we brought water and irrigation and drained the swamps and got rid of the Malaria and disease, and made this little strip of nothing flourish. A modern day miracle.
And that right there is the real problem. We weren't supposed to still be here.
So yes, I will show the video of the latest barrage of Iranian missiles smuggled into Gaza thrown at our families. 200 in 5 minutes, from poor Gaza. And I will tell you that fighting terror should be something everyone cares about. But you won't, and I accept that it is just the way it is, and will always be. And poor Gaza is all our fault, because before the Disengagment we didnt do enough to help them, and now that we destroyed 17 Israeli thriving communities, and handed over our farms and infrastructure and industry, and left Gaza (in exchange for Peace), we havent done enough either. We havent lost enough soldiers, or received enough missiles, or given enough aid, or ...I don't even know..but clearly, those damn Jews are horrible baby killers just by nature of the fact we left Gaza to the Gazans just as everyone asked us to. Only now you've decided that was somehow wrong or not enough, or who even knows anymore?!
I can tell you why though, it is because the Jews are living and thriving here. Even in the face of every obstacle. Even when hit with 700 missiles in a single day.
BUT LET'S GET REAL. NO ONE WANTED US TO BE ANYWHERE AT ALL EXCEPT DEAD."
Truth is anathema isn't it?????
G-d bless my Israeli brothers and sisters and watch over them.d
"I just received this from a friend. IT SAYS IT ALL, but most will ignore it. Sadly, a lot of Jews will mock it. Good old Chuckie Schumer will ignore it and find a way to diminish its truth and importance. Read it through. IT IS THE TRUTH."
An Israeli's take on what is happening in the Middle East
"I've been quiet, quiet from the shelter, because I cannot face the hatred, and the vile antisemitism that rears its ugly head every time there is a war.
Gaza, poor, poor Gaza, which claimed Israel kept the vaccine from their population, that Israel starved and killed children, that Israel is a colonizer, apartheid nation....said do not send in police to Jerusalem, do not try to maintain order, or we will bomb your cities. We will bomb the whole country. Bomb a country over a legal dispute about unpaid rent from property bought in 1875?
We pay our bills to the Israel Electric Corp every month. But in poor Gaza, they don't pay theirs. Israeli citizens subsidize their power. So they can make bombs, and tunnels, to terrorize Israeli citizens. Think about that for a second. We subsidize the terror they rain down upon us.
Poor Gaza. With no food, no fuel, no power, no vaccines.
Poor Gaza, except with enough money to buy and launch 700 missiles with thousands more stockpiled for tomorrow, or the next day. (Each one is $45,000 USD so today's war cost....$31,500,000USD)
But poor Gaza, with no schools, and no new hospitals, but with resources to build advanced tunnels, terror attack tunnel systems stretching miles deep into Israel. (Estimated cost: 150 million USD)
Poor Gaza, kept from developing, from air travel, from running their own country as they wish.
Well poor Gaza today sent 700 missiles at Israeli civilians, burned thousands of acres of crops and food with terror ballons filled with explosives, and launched multiple cyber attacks around the world. Oh, and targeted a civilian airport, which is now closed. Israel has one airport. We are now all stuck here together. Poor Gaza fired at an AIRPORT filled with civilian flights. On purpose.
Poor Gaza, who won't feed their children with the trucks of aid paid for and delivered by the State of Israel and her citizens, that arrive every freaking day, while claiming to the world she is starving. Instead, HAMAS leaders are billionaires and Biden just promised billions more.
Poor Gaza, where children are forced to martyr themselves for Hamas leadership who couldn't give a rat's ass if those same kids live or die.
Poor Gaza. Someone please help the damn Gazan people..We have tried for 40+ years, but their corrupt leaders, non existent desire for peace and inability to gain control of their extremist elements leaves us here.
We have no war in our hearts. We want peace and security and quiet borders for everyone. We seek to destroy nothing, to kill no one. We don't want land, and in fact, keep giving it away in exchange for promised PEACE. What horrible conquering nation of colonizers does that?? You will not hear a true zionist screaming DEATH to all ARABS or kill the Muslim. But every day, that is the call, to kill all the Jews. Anywhere you can find us, using whatever means necessary. Today the call from the Mosques was that we should be beheaded using whatever means necessary, wherever we can be found.
I am tired. And angry frankly, at the world, for literally throwing us to the wolves. You Jews, go over there, back to where you came from. We really do not want you here, or there or anywhere. Oh wait, you went there, to that wasteland of nothingness, to that place you came from. Hang on, we've reconsidered, the UN has unilaterally decided, you should not be there either.
When you support groups singing "FROM the RIVER to the SEA, Palestine will be FREE". I beg you to look at a freaking map. What RIVER and what SEA? The only RIVER is the Jordan, and the only Sea the Mediterranean. So where does that leave the JEWS? It leaves us absolutely nowhere. Floating dead in the Mediterranean, I guess?
And so we come to the real crux of the issue I think. We are tolerated (maybe), for a time, perhaps. But for 2000 years we have wandered after being exiled from Israel, always hated, always persecuted, always unwanted. And so let's just get real. There are just 13 million Jews left in the entire world, and most folks, maybe even you, honestly wish there were none.
Yes, little Israel is home to just 7 million Jews. Little Israel is home to a total of 9.5 million people. Little Israel is 9 freaking miles wide at some points, and in 1948, when it was established, it was a barren wasteland of nothingness that no one wanted, and everyone assumed would be a place those damn Jewish refugees from the death camps of Germany and Poland would go to quielty suffer and maybe, if the world was lucky, would be attacked by all of the Arab armies, lose and die.
Only WE DIDN'T. Only we brought water and irrigation and drained the swamps and got rid of the Malaria and disease, and made this little strip of nothing flourish. A modern day miracle.
And that right there is the real problem. We weren't supposed to still be here.
So yes, I will show the video of the latest barrage of Iranian missiles smuggled into Gaza thrown at our families. 200 in 5 minutes, from poor Gaza. And I will tell you that fighting terror should be something everyone cares about. But you won't, and I accept that it is just the way it is, and will always be. And poor Gaza is all our fault, because before the Disengagment we didnt do enough to help them, and now that we destroyed 17 Israeli thriving communities, and handed over our farms and infrastructure and industry, and left Gaza (in exchange for Peace), we havent done enough either. We havent lost enough soldiers, or received enough missiles, or given enough aid, or ...I don't even know..but clearly, those damn Jews are horrible baby killers just by nature of the fact we left Gaza to the Gazans just as everyone asked us to. Only now you've decided that was somehow wrong or not enough, or who even knows anymore?!
I can tell you why though, it is because the Jews are living and thriving here. Even in the face of every obstacle. Even when hit with 700 missiles in a single day.
BUT LET'S GET REAL. NO ONE WANTED US TO BE ANYWHERE AT ALL EXCEPT DEAD."
Truth is anathema isn't it?????
G-d bless my Israeli brothers and sisters and watch over them.d
May 19, 2021 20:05:03 #
During President Trump's time in office, he cut funding to Palestine. That was about $200M in 2018. Recently, President Biden, in an attempt to undo policies put in place by Pres. Trump, sent Palestine $235M in Apr of this year. Odd how the start of the missile attacks coincided with this. It'd be interesting to trace where all that taxpayer money went.
--Bob
--Bob
lowkick wrote:
I just received the following from a friend. It is... (show quote)
May 19, 2021 20:08:26 #
May 19, 2021 21:00:15 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
Nice essay. Thanks for sharing.
Doesn’t meet the Socialist left presses desires, though, so they present Palestinians as victims. Not the killed and wounded in Israel by the terrorists that hide behind (and kill) women and children.
Doesn’t meet the Socialist left presses desires, though, so they present Palestinians as victims. Not the killed and wounded in Israel by the terrorists that hide behind (and kill) women and children.
May 19, 2021 21:03:31 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
lowkick wrote:
BUT LET'S GET REAL. NO ONE WANTED US TO BE ANYWHERE AT ALL EXCEPT DEAD."
Truth is anathema isn't it?????
G-d bless my Israeli brothers and sisters and watch over them.d
BUT LET'S GET REAL. NO ONE WANTED US TO BE ANYWHERE AT ALL EXCEPT DEAD."
Truth is anathema isn't it?????
G-d bless my Israeli brothers and sisters and watch over them.d
Sorry, but this victim role doesn’t work. The US has supported Israel since founding. Because most of us in the US support Israel.
You were on point till that stupid assertion.
May 19, 2021 21:03:44 #
May 19, 2021 21:22:03 #
rmalarz wrote:
During President Trump's time in office, he cut funding to Palestine. That was about $200M in 2018. Recently, President Biden, in an attempt to undo policies put in place by Pres. Trump, sent Palestine $235M in Apr of this year. Odd how the start of the missile attacks coincided with this. It'd be interesting to trace where all that taxpayer money went.
--Bob
--Bob
The breakdown has been posted here more than once.
And reportedly the last year the money was paid under Trump it was $360 million...I believe that was in 2018.
May 19, 2021 21:59:39 #
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-palestinians/trump-cuts-more-than-200-million-in-u-s-aid-to-palestinians-idUSKCN1L923C
--Bob
--Bob
flip1948 wrote:
The breakdown has been posted here more than once.
And reportedly the last year the money was paid under Trump it was $360 million...I believe that was in 2018.
And reportedly the last year the money was paid under Trump it was $360 million...I believe that was in 2018.
May 20, 2021 00:48:14 #
rmalarz wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-palestinians/trump-cuts-more-than-200-million-in-u-s-aid-to-palestinians-idUSKCN1L923C
--Bob
--Bob
I was off a year.
Trump cut off $200 million planned for 2018, but we paid $360 million in 2017, under Trump per the BBC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47095082
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56665199
May 20, 2021 04:11:57 #
May 20, 2021 07:47:27 #
rmalarz wrote:
During President Trump's time in office, he cut funding to Palestine. That was about $200M in 2018. Recently, President Biden, in an attempt to undo policies put in place by Pres. Trump, sent Palestine $235M in Apr of this year. Odd how the start of the missile attacks coincided with this. It'd be interesting to trace where all that taxpayer money went.
--Bob
--Bob
The missile attacks started after the Israelis attacked worshipers as they prayed in the al-Aksa Mosque on the most holy day of the year for Muslims.
May 20, 2021 07:49:46 #
IDguy wrote:
Nice essay. Thanks for sharing.
Doesn’t meet the Socialist left presses desires, though, so they present Palestinians as victims. Not the killed and wounded in Israel by the terrorists that hide behind (and kill) women and children.
Doesn’t meet the Socialist left presses desires, though, so they present Palestinians as victims. Not the killed and wounded in Israel by the terrorists that hide behind (and kill) women and children.
"Terrorists hide behind women and children".... I am not sure what options they have for location.....
By the way, I once heard the expression that "a terrorist is an someone with a bomb but without an air force".
May 20, 2021 08:33:43 #
Let us begin by accepting fundamentally that the State of Israel has the right to exist and to defend itself without apology.
Yet, this endpoint belies the origin of this nation, as forceful Zionist expropriation of lands occupied by Palestinian Arabs who in turn became displaced. By accounts, this displaced population comes to 800,000 individuals whose descendants now reside in the Gaza Strip. It is ugly to say the Zionists engaged in ethnic cleansing to give birth to modern Israel.
By this view, the Palestinians suffered an historical injustice. A fair-minded onlooker can grant that much.
It is also necessary to a useful understanding to state the obvious: ancient religious hostility exists between Judaism and Islam. The latter religion in its teachings calls for killing infidels (non-Muslims) including Jews. History tells us that Muslims cannot get along with their non-Muslim neighbors.
This citizen admits that he cannot get his mind around the scope of this longstanding conflict between two religions, Judaism and Islam. In turn, this citizen can offer no remedy to resolve this conflict.
The two sides now go at it with a deadliness typical of war. It may slow to a halt, however, because one estimate says Hamas had something like 15,000 rockets and missiles to hurl at Israel. Assuming Israel prevents any further import of military contraband from entering the Gaza Strip, Hamas will run out of ammo in a matter of a few weeks. Then the heat of war will cool down.
Yet, this endpoint belies the origin of this nation, as forceful Zionist expropriation of lands occupied by Palestinian Arabs who in turn became displaced. By accounts, this displaced population comes to 800,000 individuals whose descendants now reside in the Gaza Strip. It is ugly to say the Zionists engaged in ethnic cleansing to give birth to modern Israel.
By this view, the Palestinians suffered an historical injustice. A fair-minded onlooker can grant that much.
It is also necessary to a useful understanding to state the obvious: ancient religious hostility exists between Judaism and Islam. The latter religion in its teachings calls for killing infidels (non-Muslims) including Jews. History tells us that Muslims cannot get along with their non-Muslim neighbors.
This citizen admits that he cannot get his mind around the scope of this longstanding conflict between two religions, Judaism and Islam. In turn, this citizen can offer no remedy to resolve this conflict.
The two sides now go at it with a deadliness typical of war. It may slow to a halt, however, because one estimate says Hamas had something like 15,000 rockets and missiles to hurl at Israel. Assuming Israel prevents any further import of military contraband from entering the Gaza Strip, Hamas will run out of ammo in a matter of a few weeks. Then the heat of war will cool down.
lowkick wrote:
I just received the following from a friend. It is... (show quote)
May 20, 2021 13:03:37 #
spaceylb wrote:
Yikes...it is a very old war. All about religion.
Show me a war that was not about religion !
May 20, 2021 13:20:38 #
According to most Bible scholars the whole world will come against Israel.
I know this that Israel belongs to the God of the Bible and His country His chosen will not be defeated.
The age old debate as to who are the true Jews to me doesnt really matter. The rightness and wrongness of whats going on there is always two sides to the story. This side that side and the truth.
This is a spiritual war being fought in the physical realm. Its just that simple.
I know this that Israel belongs to the God of the Bible and His country His chosen will not be defeated.
The age old debate as to who are the true Jews to me doesnt really matter. The rightness and wrongness of whats going on there is always two sides to the story. This side that side and the truth.
This is a spiritual war being fought in the physical realm. Its just that simple.
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