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Apr 22, 2021 13:38:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
We need police, but there are police that no one needs.



There are people working in every profession on the planet that nobody needs. Yet most of us realize that the bad people in every profession, including your profession, are only a mini look at the thousands of wonderful caring professional people that are also in that profession. Most of us are adult enough and aware enough of the thousands upon thousands of hard working, brave, thoughtful police officers, men and women, who work their asses off for the rest of us. We know there are a very small percentage of bad police officers just as there are a very small percentage of doctors, nurses, attorneys, light bulb changers in hospitals, waiters and waitresses, lifeguards, firemen, you name the profession and there will be bad apples in that profession. But the adults are capable to recognize the good ones and acknowledge their hard work and professionalism while giving short shrift to the bad apples.

But you on the Left continue to dwell on ONLY the bad police officers as if ALL police officers are bad. They are not and shame on you all who continuing to blame every police officer for the poor performance of a very small percentage. Don't even try to tell me you do not do this. Every one of you have put police officers down for the killing of what, maybe 25 incidents where black people have been killed in a year.

You all insist on retraining for police officers to deal with black people. What is it about black people that makes then need special treatment? Perhaps it is black people who need retraining to simply do as the police officer tells them to do. I guarantee if George Floyd and numerous black people had done what the officers told them to do they would all be alive today. Yet you on the Left give blacks a pass for whatever they do; then you blame whitey.

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2021 13:43:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
CWGordon wrote:
Dennis: Read your posts to Bazbo and anyone that might not think exactly as you do. Your comments are ALWAYS offensive and insulting! How is it possible that you cannot realize that?


Thank you for noticing. Now take a look at everyone on the Left who is insulting to me and post for them to do the exact same thing. If you cannot honestly do that then you are a lying hypocrite who has no right to speak up against me and for anybody else. Oh WAIT, you are a Left Winger who was born a hypocrite.

Always a pleasure my friend,

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2021 14:12:19   #
CWGordon
 
Dennis: Thanks for making my point.

No one on here to your left (which could still be pretty far right) is ever as rude as you always are!


By the way, most of us know many good cops. However, until and unless all the good cops start testifying against bad cops the “good ones” have to realize why large swaths of the population, both white and black, do not trust police.

I am sick and tired of white supremacists claiming black people don’t care about blacks killing blacks. What a crock of 💩! One of the benefits many inner-city enjoy is that in economically disadvantaged neighborhoods is that there is more crime near and around them. They are the forgotten victims of crime! Your remarks are a result of not having any idea of what poor folks deal with and the FACT that they don’t like being victims of crime and violence, no matter who commits it. They are no different than you or I in that regard. Likewise, none of us has ever thought black people are perfect or that they have no guilt or responsibility for the things done w/in their community. Maybe we are so disgusted with the supremacist type statements that you only hear our frustration when we do attempt to put some fairness into the conversations.
I am also shocked at our outrage of such remarks as our only being concerned with the 25 or so murders of black people per year committed by cops. Have you thought at all about what you just wrote? That is just outrageous and terribly bigoted. As well, I think the truth is that often minorities of all types are treated disrespectfully and abusively and that it needs to stop.
Maybe you should reconsider some of your statements, how they sound and what they say about you.

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Apr 22, 2021 15:21:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
CWGordon wrote:
Dennis: Thanks for making my point.

No one on here to your left (which could still be pretty far right) is ever as rude as you always are!


By the way, most of us know many good cops. However, until and unless all the good cops start testifying against bad cops the “good ones” have to realize why large swaths of the population, both white and black, do not trust police.

I am sick and tired of white supremacists claiming black people don’t care about blacks killing blacks. What a crock of 💩! One of the benefits many inner-city enjoy is that in economically disadvantaged neighborhoods is that there is more crime near and around them. They are the forgotten victims of crime! Your remarks are a result of not having any idea of what poor folks deal with and the FACT that they don’t like being victims of crime and violence, no matter who commits it. They are no different than you or I in that regard. Likewise, none of us has ever thought black people are perfect or that they have no guilt or responsibility for the things done w/in their community. Maybe we are so disgusted with the supremacist type statements that you only hear our frustration when we do attempt to put some fairness into the conversations.
I am also shocked at our outrage of such remarks as our only being concerned with the 25 or so murders of black people per year committed by cops. Have you thought at all about what you just wrote? That is just outrageous and terribly bigoted. As well, I think the truth is that often minorities of all types are treated disrespectfully and abusively and that it needs to stop.
Maybe you should reconsider some of your statements, how they sound and what they say about you.
Dennis: Thanks for making my point. br br No on... (show quote)


Perhaps you should consider joining the human race instead of the lying corrupt Democratic Party.

To hear almost ALL of you talk most police officers are just waiting to kill some black man, all of them see corruption, lying, and criminal activity in their own police department on a daily basis and say nothing because of the Blue Code of Silence. WAKE UP. Almost all of that idiotic bullshit you and your side spread are seen mostly in the movies and not in real life. I have already admitted that of course some police officers are not well suited for the job. Some are badge heavy and think it is an Us vs Them society. But AGAIN, most of that bullshit is only seen on television. I have already said I was primarily involved with the termination of one police officer/deputy sheriff and two corrections officers. Start using your head for a change. Give it a try for once rather than stick to the same old crap you are pushing on us now. Do you think any honest hard working police officer really wants to work with the type of person as Derek Chauvin? Would you? I would not either. Yet you continue spreading that vicious lying bullshit just as you are in this post. Why do you on the Left persist in bullshit?

Why do you on the Left insist that Conservatives like me are white supremacists while completely forgetting the black supremacists, BLM and Antifa. Why do you support race baiting POS like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and Maxine Waters. You hear these race baiting people and seem to agree with every RACIST word coming out of their mouth against white people and Jews. Why can't you recognize RACISM when it comes from your own side of the aisle? Do you actually believe that there is no racism from the Left. Are you that out of touch with the world around you? Joe Biden is one of the most racist people on the Left and that is depicted in numerous remarks he has made about blacks, orientals, Pakistani's and so on. Yet for some reason to suit your corrupt agenda you pretend not to notice or you tell yourself he is just kidding.

You tell us, "I am sick and tired of white supremacists claiming black people don’t care about blacks killing blacks." But then tell us what blacks are doing to stop blacks from killing other blacks. Statistics show blacks kill more blacks than any other race kills blacks. Is that a lie. Show us the marches against blacks killing blacks. Show us marches in Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis or any Democratic run city where anything is being done to stop blacks killing blacks. Nobody there gives a shit about blacks killing blacks and that includes blacks. Tell us where you have marched in what city as a protest against blacks killing blacks. You cannot do that because you never have. You don't give a shit either.

Hell, tell us where you have done anything to keep blacks from rioting, looting and burning down cities just because they don't get their way. Then tell us why black mayors have done nothing to stop blacks from committing crimes like rioting, looting and arson. I won't tell you I have never seen a white person looting a store but for the most part it is blacks that riot, loot and commit arson, not whites, not Hispanics and not Orientals.

Cities like Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis are mostly run bye black people, black mayor, chief of police and on, mostly blacks in charge. Yet you on the Left blame whites for the problems of blacks. When will you on the Left stop protecting blacks from what they do and hold them responsible for their actions; when will you let them off the plantation and stop using them for your bidding/voting?

Take a look on YouTube for examples of how black people treat police officers. Some of it ain't pretty. An officer asks for a drivers license and registration just as all of us are asked when we are stopped. Then watch the black motorist basically tell the officer he hasn't the right to stop any black person and they refuse to provide the information. This can go on for 15 minutes or more. Now put yourself in the shoes of that officer who may have better things to do. All I have seen handle themselves professionally and well considering the person they are dealing with. What would you do? You see someone go through a stop sign. You stop them because that is your job. Everyone else you have stopped that day are somewhat pleasant even though they know they will probably receive a citation but they hand over the license and registration. But then you stop a black person. Now 99% of black people stopped are just fine and not a problem. But then you get the one who says, F U, I am not showing you anything. Now more time now, what would you do? Do you just let them drive off because they are black OR do you hold them responsible for obeying the law just as everyone else is held to that standard.

With perhaps 25 black people shot by police perhaps wrongfully there is Billions of property damage done for nothing that you and I will have to pay for. What is it about black people you cannot accept them going to the court for redress, complaining about bad treatment from the officer who stopped them just as whites, Hispanics and Orientals are held to do? Why can't you hold blacks responsible for their actions?

As for my alleged rudeness I can only suggest you take an honest look at those I deal with including you. I give back what I get. If you can't handle it then may I suggest you do not participate in The Attic OR you do not post to me. Try pulling on your big boy pants for a change.

Dennis

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Apr 22, 2021 17:06:13   #
CWGordon
 
Dennis: what a bunch of BS...

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Apr 22, 2021 18:59:32   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
CWGordon wrote:
Dennis: what a bunch of BS...


Poor Dennis--he is so persecuted! I don't think anyone called hm a white supremisist as he alleges. But he is a bitter, vile and inconsequential little man. His malignant stupidity is good only for comic relief.

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Apr 22, 2021 19:20:30   #
CWGordon
 
Bazbo: I hear you are a retired Attorney. What type of law did you practice?

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Apr 22, 2021 19:32:20   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Perhaps you should consider joining the human race instead of the lying corrupt Democratic Party.

To hear almost ALL of you talk most police officers are just waiting to kill some black man, all of them see corruption, lying, and criminal activity in their own police department on a daily basis and say nothing because of the Blue Code of Silence. WAKE UP. Almost all of that idiotic bullshit you and your side spread are seen mostly in the movies and not in real life. I have already admitted that of course some police officers are not well suited for the job. Some are badge heavy and think it is an Us vs Them society. But AGAIN, most of that bullshit is only seen on television. I have already said I was primarily involved with the termination of one police officer/deputy sheriff and two corrections officers. Start using your head for a change. Give it a try for once rather than stick to the same old crap you are pushing on us now. Do you think any honest hard working police officer really wants to work with the type of person as Derek Chauvin? Would you? I would not either. Yet you continue spreading that vicious lying bullshit just as you are in this post. Why do you on the Left persist in bullshit?

Why do you on the Left insist that Conservatives like me are white supremacists while completely forgetting the black supremacists, BLM and Antifa. Why do you support race baiting POS like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and Maxine Waters. You hear these race baiting people and seem to agree with every RACIST word coming out of their mouth against white people and Jews. Why can't you recognize RACISM when it comes from your own side of the aisle? Do you actually believe that there is no racism from the Left. Are you that out of touch with the world around you? Joe Biden is one of the most racist people on the Left and that is depicted in numerous remarks he has made about blacks, orientals, Pakistani's and so on. Yet for some reason to suit your corrupt agenda you pretend not to notice or you tell yourself he is just kidding.

You tell us, "I am sick and tired of white supremacists claiming black people don’t care about blacks killing blacks." But then tell us what blacks are doing to stop blacks from killing other blacks. Statistics show blacks kill more blacks than any other race kills blacks. Is that a lie. Show us the marches against blacks killing blacks. Show us marches in Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis or any Democratic run city where anything is being done to stop blacks killing blacks. Nobody there gives a shit about blacks killing blacks and that includes blacks. Tell us where you have marched in what city as a protest against blacks killing blacks. You cannot do that because you never have. You don't give a shit either.

Hell, tell us where you have done anything to keep blacks from rioting, looting and burning down cities just because they don't get their way. Then tell us why black mayors have done nothing to stop blacks from committing crimes like rioting, looting and arson. I won't tell you I have never seen a white person looting a store but for the most part it is blacks that riot, loot and commit arson, not whites, not Hispanics and not Orientals.

Cities like Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis are mostly run bye black people, black mayor, chief of police and on, mostly blacks in charge. Yet you on the Left blame whites for the problems of blacks. When will you on the Left stop protecting blacks from what they do and hold them responsible for their actions; when will you let them off the plantation and stop using them for your bidding/voting?

Take a look on YouTube for examples of how black people treat police officers. Some of it ain't pretty. An officer asks for a drivers license and registration just as all of us are asked when we are stopped. Then watch the black motorist basically tell the officer he hasn't the right to stop any black person and they refuse to provide the information. This can go on for 15 minutes or more. Now put yourself in the shoes of that officer who may have better things to do. All I have seen handle themselves professionally and well considering the person they are dealing with. What would you do? You see someone go through a stop sign. You stop them because that is your job. Everyone else you have stopped that day are somewhat pleasant even though they know they will probably receive a citation but they hand over the license and registration. But then you stop a black person. Now 99% of black people stopped are just fine and not a problem. But then you get the one who says, F U, I am not showing you anything. Now more time now, what would you do? Do you just let them drive off because they are black OR do you hold them responsible for obeying the law just as everyone else is held to that standard.

With perhaps 25 black people shot by police perhaps wrongfully there is Billions of property damage done for nothing that you and I will have to pay for. What is it about black people you cannot accept them going to the court for redress, complaining about bad treatment from the officer who stopped them just as whites, Hispanics and Orientals are held to do? Why can't you hold blacks responsible for their actions?

As for my alleged rudeness I can only suggest you take an honest look at those I deal with including you. I give back what I get. If you can't handle it then may I suggest you do not participate in The Attic OR you do not post to me. Try pulling on your big boy pants for a change.

Dennis
Perhaps you should consider joining the human race... (show quote)


"With perhaps 25 black people shot by police perhaps wrongfully...."
Dennis, you might want to peruse this information vis a vis police shootings:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Rather more than 25, wouldn't you agree?

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Apr 22, 2021 19:35:31   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
CWGordon wrote:
Bazbo: I hear you are a retired Attorney. What type of law did you practice?


I was a corporate lawyer specializing in regulatory compliance patents and contracts. Now I am a warehouse clerk and a cage cleaner at an animal shelter.

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Apr 22, 2021 19:42:00   #
CWGordon
 
Bazbo: ...having more fun and less stress...

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Apr 22, 2021 19:45:23   #
CWGordon
 
GeorgeH: Thank you for providing actual statistics. I had no idea numbers were that high and adding that into the numbers for other minorities gives some shocking perspective to a very serious problem.

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Apr 22, 2021 19:54:13   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
CWGordon wrote:
GeorgeH: Thank you for providing actual statistics. I had no idea numbers were that high and adding that into the numbers for other minorities gives some shocking perspective to a very serious problem.


It was my pleasure. As a retired certified professional librarian information was my specialty, so to speak. A moment's Google search found the statistics. I fear that Dennis' statement was a guess; not a good idea!

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Apr 22, 2021 19:55:40   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
CWGordon wrote:
Bazbo: ...having more fun and less stress...


Yes and doing far more important work than helping giant corporations stay clear of regulatory problems.

Three years ago I had a late in life epiphany: We had plenty of money for the rest of our lives and well beyond--so what did I want to spend the rest of my days doing?

Much happier now...will be traveling as soon as our passports mean something again.

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Apr 22, 2021 20:10:39   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Bazbo wrote:
I was a corporate lawyer specializing in regulatory compliance patents and contracts. Now I am a warehouse clerk and a cage cleaner at an animal shelter.


Volunteer? If so Thanks. If not thanks. Our domesticated animals need help and it sounds like a good retirement..

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Apr 22, 2021 20:34:26   #
CWGordon
 
Bazbo: Sounds like solid thinking to me. I congratulate you. Corporate Law always sounded stressful and not very much fun. It did generally pay well, from what I’ve heard. Enjoy that California weather and travel soon. It seems to my wife and I the best part of life, as long as ya have yer health.

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