You have described the formula for capturing photos with detail.
al lehman wrote:
I have a 600mm and absolutely love it. With that being said, I typically shoot wildlife, so I'm using higher shutter speeds. While in Africa, I could get tack sharp images where you can count ear hairs or eyelashes or chin hairs on a giraffe without using a tripod. I rested it on the roll bar of the jeep and fired away. The disadvantage with the lens is in low light conditions. With any f/4 to get tack sharp images with moving subjects you need to crank up the iso and the shutter speed and with my 600 it works very well. If you shoot wildlife, that 600 will allow you to photograph at greater distances from your subject creating less reason for critters to take off or have birds fly away. You may need to lift some weights and build up your biceps and triceps to haul it around. I'm 70 years old and pack the 600 beast around all the time. If you have the cash, you won't regret it.
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Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
robertjerl wrote:
Yes, often it works, but not always, and esp in dim light early or late when my birds are feeding. And my definition of good is probably different from your definition. With my birds I more or less want to see the details of the feathers and the mites on them if I can.
I doubt your definition of acceptable detail is any lower than mine.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
I truly think we are on the same page as far as image quality goes. . .
I sold my 600mmF4 after realizing just how many shots I missed while I was fussing with the tripod - setup/break down for every time I needed to move more than just a couple of feet. Hiking with it was onerous - a 30 lb backpack with lens/camera/tripod/gimbal camera bag, second body. Now my kit is 8.5 lbs - camera/lens/Black Rapid sling strap. The big production of setting up and breaking down repeatedly is in the rear view mirror. The Sigma delivers the image quality, even hand held, that I used to get with the big lens on a tripod.
1/80, F6.3, ISO 800 early light, under forest canopy
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Gene those three bird shots are fantastic.
1/6 of a second handheld is champion quality.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
BassmanBruce wrote:
Gene those three bird shots are fantastic.
1/6 of a second handheld is champion quality.
Thanks!
Oops! the 1/6 should have been 1/60 - but I'll take the compliments regardless.
raymondh wrote:
I suppose there is some truth in that but I do find it interesting that it is not a lens currently listed on Canon’s website.
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/lenses/ef/super-telephoto/ef-600mm-f-4l-is-iii-usm And, I would bet some (a lot?) of the people who are getting unsharp shots at slow shutter speeds with that lens are either trying to handhold it or are turning off IS when it's on a tripod.
Canon's instruction manual for the lens actually tells you to turn off IS when using a tripod, but that assumes you're using a reasonably fast shutter speed and is only a recommendation to save battery power. That lens, like all the other "super telephotos", has no problem leaving IS on when it's on a tripod. In fact, IS can help counteract movement from gusts of wind or passing trucks or even internal camera vibrations from the mirror and shutter action. I never turn IS off on the "big" Canon lenses. It automatically turns itself off when not needed.
Your experienced view of tripod usage coincides with that of Ken Rockwell:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-killed-my-tripod.htmFor individuals who do not care to read the KR critique, I state his conclusion: In the digital age with image stabilization, the tripod has become obsolescent. Photographers can do without one in most all instances.
Gene51 wrote:
I truly think we are on the same page as far as image quality goes. . .
I sold my 600mmF4 after realizing just how many shots I missed while I was fussing with the tripod - setup/break down for every time I needed to move more than just a couple of feet. Hiking with it was onerous - a 30 lb backpack with lens/camera/tripod/gimbal camera bag, second body. Now my kit is 8.5 lbs - camera/lens/Black Rapid sling strap. The big production of setting up and breaking down repeatedly is in the rear view mirror. The Sigma delivers the image quality, even hand held, that I used to get with the big lens on a tripod.
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I have a Canon 600mm f/4L IS III that I plan to sell if anyone is interested. The eagle nest that I had access to blew down last year in a windstorm (thankfully after the young ones had fledged).
I will take some pictures and list it in the classifieds in a couple of days.
I would only do a cash transaction. I live in Northeast Alabama.
raymondh wrote:
I was considering rounding out my Canon L lens collection by spending my kids inheritance on this bad boy. Initially I read that this was one of the sharpest in the Canon family but I have since read some reviews from those that have it that it produces unusable images at slow shutter speeds. And Canon doesn't have it listed on their web site.
Any guesses on chances that Canon will correct the problem?
If I’m reading a reviewer who complains that a 600mm makes unusable images at slow shutter speeds I’ll just quit right there. That author has subzero cred. A 600/4.0 is not for kiddies, even with IS.
raymondh wrote:
I suppose there is some truth in that but I do find it interesting that it is not a lens currently listed on Canon’s website.
Maybe they sold their last one. Retailers may have some here and there. The big names would tend to get cleaned out first. Also, a long shot (pun !!), but do check CUSA for a refurb.
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