A little help explaining mirrorless
Apr 15, 2021 08:39:42 #
wide2tele wrote:
Next test "shutter shock" in one of those lightweight mirrorless bodies and see what you come up with.
Unlike a DSLR with a mirror, you can't lock up the shutter with a mirrorless camera.
Unlike a DSLR with a mirror, you can't lock up the shutter with a mirrorless camera.
Just tested several examples.
Result: zero to sub zero.
Have you been living under a rock ?
Odd sense of humor ? Major chain of typo errors ?
Apr 15, 2021 09:30:41 #
runakid wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter as is my wife. We are both in... (show quote)
To state the obvious, what follows is based on my experience and my skills and limitations. I use a Canon 80D and an Olympus M10 II. I don’t think switching to mirrorless will automatically give you better pictures. However, I think the EVF on the mirrorless has a useful advantage—you see what the sensor sees. Of course you can do that with the DSLR’s Live View, but unless I’m using a tripod I find that extremely awkward. Also, my highly subjective view is that I generally get better results from the mirrorless if I’m shooting in bright sunlight. YMMV.
I second those who recommend renting before buying and perhaps comparing several models—I would definitely look at a Nikon mirrorless as well as a Sony or whatever else you might consider. I have rented a lot from BorrowLenses and Lensrentals and found them both excellent.
Apr 15, 2021 10:55:39 #
User ID wrote:
Just tested several examples.
Result: zero to sub zero.
Have you been living under a rock ?
Odd sense of humor ? Major chain of typo errors ?
Result: zero to sub zero.
Have you been living under a rock ?
Odd sense of humor ? Major chain of typo errors ?
I’m just putting out the question.
Apr 15, 2021 16:19:40 #
Ignore the “jackasses”, “smartasses”, “haughty-taughty” individuals that only want to embarrass you instead of offer sound advice.
Apr 15, 2021 17:04:57 #
LittleBit wrote:
. Ignore the “jackasses”, “smartasses”, “haughty-taughty” individuals that only want to embarrass you instead of offer sound advice.
You addressed your advice to no one in particular. Thus I respond in kind:
Most of our in-house “experts” are more than capable of thoroughly embarrassing themselves and do not need any outside help with that.
Apr 15, 2021 17:22:14 #
neillaubenthal wrote:
I have to disagree with your disagreement…at least... (show quote)
I wasn't referring to distortion. The new Z-mount lenses are sharper than comparable F-mount lenses. The new 24-70mm f/2.8 Z mount lens can resolve up to about 76 line pairs per millimeter. The most recent 24-70mm f/2.8 F-mount lens resolves at best about 44 line pairs per millimeter.
Apr 15, 2021 17:29:17 #
CO wrote:
I wasn't referring to distortion. The new Z-mount lenses are sharper than comparable F-mount lenses. The new 24-70mm f/2.8 Z mount lens can resolve up to about 76 line pairs per millimeter. The most recent 24-70mm f/2.8 F-mount lens resolves at best about 44 line pairs per millimeter.
Nice charts. Very impressed ! You should print them really huge and frame them.
Apr 15, 2021 17:32:26 #
User ID wrote:
Nice charts. Very impressed ! You should print them really huge and frame them.
You can't read these charts so you make some smart aleck remarks to compensate. People who have some technical ability can understand them.
Apr 15, 2021 17:34:08 #
Was directed to “wild2tele’s” smart remark, “ where have you been under a rock”.
Apr 15, 2021 17:47:48 #
CO wrote:
I wasn't referring to distortion. The new Z-mount lenses are sharper than comparable F-mount lenses. The new 24-70mm f/2.8 Z mount lens can resolve up to about 76 line pairs per millimeter. The most recent 24-70mm f/2.8 F-mount lens resolves at best about 44 line pairs per millimeter.
Yup...and it is across the 'brand' board.
Pretty much all of the newer high end lenses will outperform any of the older lenses.
They are better designed and constructed and coated...all done by computers now (design).
Older lenses still have a place...but it isn't in the contrast/sharpness arena.
If someone told me they were going to pay big bucks for an older lens...I'd tell them to put that coin into a new one.
Heck, even the 'hobby' lenses built today beat the 'hobby' lenses of just a few years ago.
Apr 15, 2021 17:56:50 #
CO wrote:
You can't read these charts so you make some smart aleck remarks to compensate. People who have some technical ability can understand them.
Great charts. You should print them really huuuuuge and frame them.
FWIW, almost ANYONE can read them. It’s not newkular physics. The data is worthless, but hanging on your wall all your guests can admire your lenses.
Apr 15, 2021 18:17:50 #
runakid wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter as is my wife. We are both in... (show quote)
If you are a wildlife shooter like I think you are, my recommendation would be to try the Nikon Z50 with adapter as already mentioned. Using an EVF for tracking BIF is always a big question mark tho and a challenge ! OTOH, the EVF WILL improve your exposures because of the WYSIWYG......
See Ken Rockwell's review of the Z50.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:29:02 #
User ID wrote:
Great charts. You should print them really huuuuuge and frame them.
FWIW, almost ANYONE can read them. It’s not newkular physics. The data is worthless, but hanging on your wall all your guests can admire your lenses.
FWIW, almost ANYONE can read them. It’s not newkular physics. The data is worthless, but hanging on your wall all your guests can admire your lenses.
You seem to be obsessed with hanging things on the wall. I have no such desire. I read reviews and then rent cameras and lenses to make my own evaluations. I've seen the difference between the new Nikon Z-mount lenses and F-mount lenses.
Apr 15, 2021 18:32:00 #
CO wrote:
I wasn't referring to distortion. The new Z-mount lenses are sharper than comparable F-mount lenses. The new 24-70mm f/2.8 Z mount lens can resolve up to about 76 line pairs per millimeter. The most recent 24-70mm f/2.8 F-mount lens resolves at best about 44 line pairs per millimeter.
A technical explanation for why I enjoy using this lens so much (with Z7 II)! Thanks for sharing.
Apr 15, 2021 18:36:04 #
CO wrote:
I wasn't referring to distortion. The new Z-mount lenses are sharper than comparable F-mount lenses. The new 24-70mm f/2.8 Z mount lens can resolve up to about 76 line pairs per millimeter. The most recent 24-70mm f/2.8 F-mount lens resolves at best about 44 line pairs per millimeter.
If you took the same picture with the lenses mentioned with a D850 and Z7, with no post processing, could a person with average eyesight tell the difference? I'm wondering if we are pushing things further that practical. I look at some landscapes and think, it didn't look that sharp when I saw it in person. Of course, maybe 20 years ago it would have looked sharper to my naked, younger eyes.
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