Is mirrorless really better thand DSLR? (modern versions only) (Page 4): My DSLR (D750) also has a level display.

cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania

JohnR wrote:

I do so agree however I find I like the EVF on my Olympus better than the optical viewfinder on my Nikon. I particularly like the level display as it helps me stop the sea running out of the side

Cheers JohnR

My DSLR (D750) also has a level display.

cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania

CHG_CANON wrote:

Who can have a positive attitude without a mirrorless camera?

ME, and I am the only one who matters in my world

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

JohnR wrote:

Just a little food for thought br br Looking comp... (show quote)

Advantage Mirrorless camera's
1.You can see in the viewfinder what the final image will be, you can quickly adjust in manual mode exactly the exposure you want BEFORE you trip the shutter.
2. You no longer need to fine tune any lens, because the image is focused directly on the sensor, there is no mirror to sensor distance to worry about. This should also, in theory, make mirrorless lenses sharper on a mirrorless than the same lens on a mirrored camera.
3. I can get more frames per second with mirrorless than with DSLR's.
4. I can set the camera to silent mode so if I am close to wildlife I do not spook it like I would with my D850.

Advantage DSLR camera's
1. Personally I like the larger bodies, they are easier for me to hand hold using larger telephoto lenses.
2. I have yet to find a sharper lens than my Nikon 70-200 2.8 FL lens.
3. If you have a nest of DSLR lenses like I do switching to a mirrorless can be an expensive proposition. I know you can get an adapter but I prefer to get native (without the need for a adapter) lenses.
4. If wildlife is moving from shadows to light, I can still see the wildlife in the shadows. With mirrorless if I have my manual exposure set to bright light, if the wildlife is then in the shadows my viewfinder will be dark and hard to focus. (you can however set the mirrorless camera viewfinder to off to compensate for this)

With all of this said I currently have feet firmly planted in the DSLR and Mirrorless systems. My DSLR is Nikon and my Mirrorless in Sony.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

Ysarex wrote:

You can see it too -- and even on your monitor. I ... (show quote)

I appreciate the time and effort that you spent putting this demonstration together. For me, however, it simply endorses what an incredible waste of time this stupid argument remains. I have been doing photography since 1962. My photographs have been used to document events, support academic research, illustrate industrial training materials, respond to environmental enforcement actions, capture memories, and a host of other purposes. I have never taken a single photograph where the difference between these two photographs would have made any difference to any of the people who viewed any photograph that I have ever made, including me.

I stopped by because I thought I might have been too hasty in deciding to move away from the forum. This clarifies that's not the case. Best wishes to all here. Have fun fantasizing.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

JohnR wrote:

Just a little food for thought br br Looking comp... (show quote)

Better technology for mirrorless, especially for video that most photographers now prefer except the UHH people, otherwise there would not be the push for video.
Superior speed of AF, at least those with DPAF, and shutter. AF (For Canon at least) is over virtually 100% of the screen vs a small area on DSLR.
Silent operation while looking through the viewfinder that a DSLR cannot do.
The only thing the DSLR still has is battery life and the OVF which still is better, albeit today by a smaller margin than 2 years ago, than the EVF.
Finally most manufacturers are not putting effort into bodies and lenses related to DSLRs so no growth in them and a dead end unless you are at end of life and do not want better more capable tech.

BurghByrd Loc: Pittsburgh

JohnR wrote:

Just a little food for thought

Looking completely dispassionately which is better photographically – for image quality?

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Mirrorless do not have better lenses than DSLRs. ---

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion but I can't agree. I've got both F mount and Z mount lenses and I've consistently found the Z mount lenses to produce sharper images particularly at the edges and corners of the photograph. Is it always noticable in real world conditions? NO. Does it make all F mount lenses obsolete? No. I have F mount tilt shift lenses that aren't available in Z mount and aren't even on the Nikon Z mount development map. Also, I sometimes mount a 35mm D series lens for streen photography because it's smaller and less conspicuous. But I can see a clear difference in image quality between the newest F mount lenses and Z mount lenses. It's only logical, the geometry of the Z mount system is an improvement requiring less light manipulation and putting the lens closer to the sensor.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

wide2tele wrote:

This is a 2000x2000 pixel section taken from a lar... (show quote)

BINGO!!!!

(Only your hairdresser knows for sure!)

Having that knowledge can be a detriment that eats at people.
Must, get , the best,...
Even though most might not be able to tell the difference.
But I'll know,
I'll know.

wide2tele Loc: Australia

Longshadow wrote:

BINGO!!!!

(Only your hairdresser knows for sure!)

Having that knowledge can be a detriment that eats at people.
Must, get , the best,...
Even though most might not be able to tell the difference.
But I'll know,
I'll know.

If you read the internet, the difference between prime lens v zoom lens, pro lens v consumer lens and manufacturer v 3rd party lenses are huge! Going by this, should be dead simple to guess the type of lens used in my image shouldn't it?
I'll be fascinated to see if anyone is prepared to guess.

To not leave people in the dark, I'll post the lens used at a later time.

sergio

This is really a stupid statement.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

sergio wrote:

This is really a stupid statement.

Without context, yes it is...
Using "Quote Reply" will make it less stupid.

(Then we'll know to what you are referring.)

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

wide2tele wrote:

If you read the internet, the difference between prime lens v zoom lens, pro lens v consumer lens and manufacturer v 3rd party lenses are huge! Going by this, should be dead simple to guess the type of lens used in my image shouldn't it?
I'll be fascinated to see if anyone is prepared to guess.

To not leave people in the dark, I'll post the lens used at a later time.

Canisdirus

The Easter Bunny shoots mirrorless...

PhotonHog Loc: Annapolis

This is still a hot subject. My thoughts are I really like a REAL viewfinder that a DSLR offers. This allows me to check the shot without even turning the camera on. And I have Live View so I can preview the shot just like a so called mirrorless. Sometimes battery life can be a big issue. Not that often but it can get you. And I have never thought the motion and/or sound of the mirror so called slap as a big detriment. In fact it is hard to hear even if you try. As far as body size goes this is a matter of preference. I like a heavier body that feels solid. In the film days I had a Canon FTb and liked it. A lot. Now I have an Olympus e420 and though somewhat smaller than a full frame I find it is easy to handle. No issues with the mirror at all.

My first REAL camera was a Canon QL-17 in the 70s - a rangefinder that had no mirror - a true mirrorless camera. It was a joy to use and the leaf shutter was VERY quiet. Good camera but only a fixed lens.

I am looking to move up to full frame. I really like a real viewfinder so right now I am going DSLR all the way. That might change.

One thing still true is sensor size is a significant part of final image quality. In this case bigger IS better. But for 99% of us, this is really not a big thing as APS and other so called crop sensors get the job done and do it very well.

GLSmith Loc: Tampa, Fl

Marketing, amrketing, marketing, buy, buy. buy...the company needs to make $$$ to stay in business......So tired of the hype.....Oh if you want to use your current lens....buy an adapter

ELNikkor

My "cold, heartless, uncaring" mirror on my D750 reflects the warm, caring, compassionate subject. Mirrorless just shows it to me on a cold, heartless, uncaring little tv monitor. (I write this with a smirk of humor : ) Actually, I look forward to owning a mirrorless one day...