George Floyd (Page 4): What does any of that have to do with his death.? Are you saying because he did some bad things in the past it was ok that a cop killed him today ?

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

slocumeddie wrote:

Have you forgotten that Floyd terrorized and tortured a pregnant woman.....???

Floyd was a thug of a human being.....

Chris Rock brings it home.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

What does any of that have to do with his death.? Are you saying because he did some bad things in the past it was ok that a cop killed him today ?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

BigCed0814 wrote:

Craig don’t ever change your words. You said it ri... (show quote)

This is a horrible incident, but it is not so clear cut because you have to understand the actual laws, the policies of the Minneapolis police department at the time of the death, as well as the actual cause of death. The official autopsy does not indicate that the knee on the neck actually killed him, he was actually complaining about breathing problems before being put to the ground. He had enough fentanyl in his system to cause his death..... I am not saying that the cop is innocent, the cop is an AH, but that does not make this a less complicated case.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Blurryeyed wrote:

This is a horrible incident, but it is not so clea... (show quote)

And a second autopsy ordered by the family and county prosecutor showed cause of death homicide.

But of course the fentanyl just happened to kill him while the police had him down under a knee.., gee what a coincidence .

Leon S Loc: Minnesota

DennyT wrote:

The cause of death was the knee. Doesn’t matter what he did in the past . Doesn’t matter what he health issue were.
The bottom line is that if it weren’t for the knee he would have walked away that day .

Don’t confuse the issue.

That’s like the ignorant fools that claim a person who had heart disease that maybe have killed them in 10 years didn’t die in 10 days because of the virus

Time to put politics aside .

Well Denny, I see now that you are a experience doctor to have determined without the benefit of an autopsy the real cause of death. Personally, using my unofficial doctors degree in history, I think the amount of yet to be disclosed level of fentanyl coupled with other drugs was the cause of death. The knee in the back was possibly excessive force, but that too has yet to be determined. Remember Floyd was sitting in a car with two drug dealers when arrested. Floyd was really high when he passed the twenty dollar bill, irrational and paranoidal when originally arrested, combative when being placed the police car, able to fight off three officers while he was hand cuffed, and not complying with officer orders. Those officers just went through a traumatic fight themselves. I wouldn't want their jobs.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

DennyT wrote:

And a second autopsy ordered by the family and county prosecutor showed cause of death homicide.

But of course the fentanyl just happened to kill him while the police had him down under a knee.., gee what a coincidence .

I certainly did not proclaim his innocence, just that it is not as simple as the video would make it seem, the amount of drugs in his system were enough to cause his death, the symptoms of fentanyl overdose is the inability to not breath. The cop's actions are pretty much indefensible, but law is not as simple as you seem to think it is, law has no emotion as you do Denny, and your emotions can not convict a man.

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

DennyT wrote:

The cause of death was the knee. Doesn’t matter what he did in the past . Doesn’t matter what he health issue were.
The bottom line is that if it weren’t for the knee he would have walked away that day .

Don’t confuse the issue.

That’s like the ignorant fools that claim a person who had heart disease that maybe have killed them in 10 years didn’t die in 10 days because of the virus

Time to put politics aside .

Thanks for your opinion..........don't expect others to take your opinion as fact.

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

DennyT wrote:

What does any of that have to do with his death.? Are you saying because he did some bad things in the past it was ok that a cop killed him today ?

Floyd died while in police custody. The cause of death has yet to be resolved.....

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Leon S wrote:

Well Denny, I see now that you are a experience do... (show quote)

Well spoken.....!!!

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Blurryeyed wrote:

I certainly did not proclaim his innocence, just that it is not as simple as the video would make it seem, the amount of drugs in his system were enough to cause his death, the symptoms of fentanyl overdose is the inability to not breath. The cop's actions are pretty much indefensible, but law is not as simple as you seem to think it is, law has no emotion as you do Denny, and your emotions can not convict a man.

Well spoken.....!!!

mwalsh Loc: Houston

Leon S wrote:

Well Denny, I see now that you are a experience do... (show quote)

"able to fight off three officers while he was hand cuffed"

I think you have gotten into the fentanyl stash. The 4 or 5 videos that capture the entire scene from start to death do not support that claim.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

mwalsh wrote:

"able to fight off three officers while he was hand cuffed"

I think you have gotten into the fentanyl stash. The 4 or 5 videos that capture the entire scene from start to death do not support that claim.

They may not have but don't under estimate the number of men necessary to control a large man on mind numbing drugs.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Leon S wrote:

Well Denny, I see now that you are a experience do... (show quote)

And the drugs just by coincidence happen to kill him at the exact time the knee was in him ...

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

slocumeddie wrote:

Floyd died while in police custody. The cause of death has yet to be resolved.....

Then why bring up his past ?

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

slocumeddie wrote:

Floyd died while in police custody. The cause of death has yet to be resolved.....

Exactly ... Floyd died while in police custody.

You control all the circumstances. It's your responsibility that your captive not die on your watch.

It's pretty fundamental. People dying in your custody is not a good look.

"Force used on George Floyd by Derek Chauvin 'totally unnecessary', top homicide officer testifies" Reuters

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-03/george-floyd-trial-witness-homicide-testifies-deadly-force/100047146

McKinneyMike Loc: Texas

Floyd was executed plain and simple as we all stood by and continue to allow those that wear a badge the freedom to be judge, jury executioner! There is no difference in shooting fleeing person in the back and then saying that the officer feared for their life as justification. Video is all the evidence any normal person needs to see. There was zero threat to Chauvin or the other police officers in this video. Murder plain and simple.