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Apr 1, 2021 00:59:10   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
I hope you are not correct. Floyd was functional and their handling of the situation was abysmal. At the very worst, it could be a hung jury but I think the use of fatal force was totally unnecessary.... it was a $20 bill.


The fatal force issue is very questionable.

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Apr 1, 2021 01:00:02   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Leon S wrote:
It was minor until the first two officers approached Mr. Floyd in his car and Mr. Floyd failed to cooperate. It was serious enough for one of the officers to pull his service gun and order Mr. Floyd to show his hands. That's when things began to escalate. We'll see what happens as the clock ticks away and other witnesses testify. That's why people should allow our system of justice to determine guilt. And that includes news organizations, community activist, payed so called ministers, and politicians including President Biden. The trial will determine justice for both Mr. Floyd and the officers.
It was minor until the first two officers approach... (show quote)


Agreed.

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Apr 1, 2021 04:47:16   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
"Conservative stars like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens keep claiming George Floyd wasn't killed by police"

https://www.insider.com/conservative-stars-claiming-george-floyd-death-drugs-not-police-2021-3

Has attic support for the Fox/Carlson/Owens positions on George Floyd and BLM evaporated with witness testimony?

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Apr 1, 2021 04:52:10   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
mwalsh wrote:
the videos are the proof


The obvious is no longer reality to many people. Alternative truths seem to be the normal to far too many in the US. When did the truth become unreliable? Those videos are all I would need to see as a juror. As a human being, I will never understand how we could empower any person to terrorize another human in the way Floyd and so many other blacks in this nation. It's time to see truth and justice in all things and the first is blatant racism is alive and more evident than every in this country that stands on freedom and justice for all.

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Apr 1, 2021 05:24:01   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
thom w wrote:
Since this appears to be your first venture into the attic, I feel compelled to ask what brought you.

I feel compelled to say this "artist" wanted a place to showcase/promote his "work".....

After all, "I’m the Arteest of our generation almost like a Warhol or Basquiat, maybe Picasso".....

Gimme a break..........

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Apr 1, 2021 05:34:43   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
The obvious is no longer reality to many people. Alternative truths seem to be the normal to far too many in the US. When did the truth become unreliable? Those videos are all I would need to see as a juror. As a human being, I will never understand how we could empower any person to terrorize another human in the way Floyd and so many other blacks in this nation. It's time to see truth and justice in all things and the first is blatant racism is alive and more evident than ever in this country that stands on freedom and justice for all.
The obvious is no longer reality to many people. A... (show quote)

Most other countries would never have tolerated Floyd's criminal actions over the many years he was a blight on

society.....Floyd was a career criminal, not a saint.....

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Apr 1, 2021 05:36:00   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Texcaster wrote:
"Conservative stars like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens keep claiming George Floyd wasn't killed by police"

https://www.insider.com/conservative-stars-claiming-george-floyd-death-drugs-not-police-2021-3

Has attic support for the Fox/Carlson/Owens positions on George Floyd and BLM evaporated with witness testimony?

No.....

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Apr 1, 2021 06:47:14   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Most other countries would never have tolerated Floyd's criminal actions over the many years he was a blight on

society.....Floyd was a career criminal, not a saint.....


No matter, he nor anyone else deserved to be terrorized and tortured by a thug of a human being. You obviously prefer to allow police officers the freedom to be judge, jury and executioner. I still pray that there is a true justice in this country and that it will be something that reflects who we are, what we strive to be and what we were founded to be.

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Apr 1, 2021 08:30:15   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
No matter, he nor anyone else deserved to be terrorized and tortured by a thug of a human being. You obviously prefer to allow police officers the freedom to be judge, jury and executioner. I still pray that there is a true justice in this country and that it will be something that reflects who we are, what we strive to be and what we were founded to be.

Have you forgotten that Floyd terrorized and tortured a pregnant woman.....???

Floyd was a thug of a human being.....

Chris Rock brings it home.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

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Apr 1, 2021 13:20:30   #
BigCed0814 Loc: Ohio
 
slocumeddie wrote:
I feel compelled to say this "artist" wanted a place to showcase/promote his "work".....

After all, "I’m the Arteest of our generation almost like a Warhol or Basquiat, maybe Picasso".....

Gimme a break..........

Hahaha. I’m always promoting my work and my mentors told me this. What’s wrong with that. I’m just being honest. Read in between the lines.

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Apr 1, 2021 13:45:22   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
Leon S wrote:
It was minor until the first two officers approached Mr. Floyd in his car and Mr. Floyd failed to cooperate. It was serious enough for one of the officers to pull his service gun and order Mr. Floyd to show his hands. That's when things began to escalate. We'll see what happens as the clock ticks away and other witnesses testify. That's why people should allow our system of justice to determine guilt. And that includes news organizations, community activist, payed so called ministers, and politicians including President Biden. The trial will determine justice for both Mr. Floyd and the officers.
It was minor until the first two officers approach... (show quote)


The videos are undeniable. I'm not a juror, I make my own decisions and for me, the videos confirm excessive force resulting in a needless death.

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Apr 1, 2021 17:11:01   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
The videos are undeniable. I'm not a juror, I make my own decisions and for me, the videos confirm excessive force resulting in a needless death.


The videos are clear. They do seem to show restraining force for an excessive period of time. However the cause of death is still to be argued.

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Apr 3, 2021 18:49:02   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
The obvious is no longer reality to many people. Alternative truths seem to be the normal to far too many in the US. When did the truth become unreliable? Those videos are all I would need to see as a juror. As a human being, I will never understand how we could empower any person to terrorize another human in the way Floyd and so many other blacks in this nation. It's time to see truth and justice in all things and the first is blatant racism is alive and more evident than every in this country that stands on freedom and justice for all.
The obvious is no longer reality to many people. A... (show quote)


McKinneyMike ... "The obvious is no longer reality to many people. Alternative truths seem to be the normal to far too many in the US."

Amen.

"The Jan 6 insurrection at the capitol was just a rowdy day out for cos-play camo patriots." Attic bar stool patriots.

"We don't know how George Floyd died." Attic bar stool patriots.

"I feared for my life judge" is the traditional get-out-of-jail-card for fearful or poorly trained trigger happy cops.

That bog standard ploy is going to be hard to play this time.


"Force used on George Floyd by Derek Chauvin 'totally unnecessary', top homicide officer testifies" Reuters

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-03/george-floyd-trial-witness-homicide-testifies-deadly-force/100047146

Lieutenant Zimmerman said officers were responsible for the care of anyone they arrested and are trained to give first aid to an injured or distressed detainee even if they know an ambulance is coming.

"His safety is your responsibility, his wellbeing is your responsibility," he told the jury.

He described how officers are trained only to respond to any threat with a proportionate amount of force.

"Once a person is cuffed, the threat level goes down all the way," Lieutenant Zimmerman testified.

"They're cuffed. How can they really hurt you, you know?"

He warned of the dangers of leaving a person in a prone position.

"Once you've secured or handcuffed a person you need to get them out of the prone position as soon as possible because it restricts their breathing," he said.

He offered harsh testimony against the way his former colleague and other officers at the scene restrained Mr Floyd.

"Pulling him down to the ground face down, and putting your knee on the neck for that amount of time is just uncalled for," Lieutenant Zimmerman said.

"I saw no reason why the officers felt they were in danger, if that's what they felt, and that's what they would have to feel in order to use that kind of force."

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Apr 3, 2021 19:08:08   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Sent to me from a friend, just as you see it here. probably bogus as hell but it does say something.

George Floyd

He is a former player and graduate of the Penn State University. McNulty returned to Rutgers, where he spent five seasons as an assistant coach and offensive coordinator from 2004 to 2008. The veteran coach also spent 15 seasons in the National Football League (NFL), coaching for six different teams


He said:

I watched the Democratic leaders of Congress kneel in the halls of Congress for about 9 minutes, for the death of a black man named George Floyd.

I have never seen them kneel for a fallen *Police Officer.

I have never seen them kneel for a fallen *Soldier.

I NEVER SAW THEM KNEEL FOR THE *SOLDIERS THAT HILLARY & OBAMA LEFT TO DIE IN Benghazi!!

I have never seen them kneel for the thousands of (black and white) *babies aborted EVERY DAY.

I have never seen them kneel for a murdered *white man or woman*.

I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of *black-on-black murder victims.

I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of *elderly people that died in nursing homes due to the Corona Virus.(Especially N.Y.)

I have to ask: *WHY are Democrats putting the life of George Floyd as more valuable than the lives of everyone else?

In fact, Democrats have put so much value on the life of George Floyd, they have allowed rioting, looting, arson, ️murder, and mayhem in communities Nationwide...

ASK YOURSELF - WHY NOW?"

The family (brothers and sister) of George Floyd opened a Go Fund Me account to "help the family"? It has already raised $14,455,100.00 and still counting from donations as of June 22, 2020. Yes, almost $14 1/2 MILLION and local Government paid them $27 MILLION.
This is for a guy who was arrested NINE times; was a convicted drug dealer (and at a drug deal the day he died); held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant lady while his five buddies robbed her home; did prison time three different times totaling about eight years, and obviously didn't learn from our penal system.

And now America is memorializing him by painting murals of the guy on the sides of buildings like he's a hero? Unbelievable!!

You got to be kidding me.

Crime does pay! .....and to pour salt in the wound, Rep. Pelosi (democrat) presented his brother a folded American flag flown over the Capitol in his honor in a beautiful tri-cornered presentation case.

We should be embarrassed if not disgusted as citizens!!!!!

John McNulty

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Apr 3, 2021 19:15:39   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Leon S wrote:
The videos are clear. They do seem to show restraining force for an excessive period of time. However the cause of death is still to be argued.


The cause of death was the knee. Doesn’t matter what he did in the past . Doesn’t matter what he health issue were.
The bottom line is that if it weren’t for the knee he would have walked away that day .

Don’t confuse the issue.

That’s like the ignorant fools that claim a person who had heart disease that maybe have killed them in 10 years didn’t die in 10 days because of the virus


Time to put politics aside .

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