Mirrorless - a different view
Mar 25, 2021 09:49:39 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
This is a waste of time. Nikon or Canon? Mirrored or Mirrorless. Chevy or Ford. All good things and machines.
Their seems to be a war conceptually here over 2 wonderful kinds of camera's. The machines called camera's generally work beautifully. And are amazing that a device so small and can do so much. Kudo's to the manufacturers and designers of these camera's. And my question is how Fuji or Nikon don't dont build many camera's anymore and China, Thailand etc can do a great job for Nikon and Fuji etc. From what I read we can't make the smart phones here. No supply chain, labor qualified and a sense of pride.
I am not as smart and some here are really knowledgeable.
Here is my quote out of google and the reason I like mirrorless
"The preview on the screen of a mirrorless camera will look close to the final image."
EVF's are doing a great job. Where are we in this. Why is everything we pick up from Asia.
We are a great country and great people? Spend to much time arguing with ourselves.
Stay safe. Keep shooting
Their seems to be a war conceptually here over 2 wonderful kinds of camera's. The machines called camera's generally work beautifully. And are amazing that a device so small and can do so much. Kudo's to the manufacturers and designers of these camera's. And my question is how Fuji or Nikon don't dont build many camera's anymore and China, Thailand etc can do a great job for Nikon and Fuji etc. From what I read we can't make the smart phones here. No supply chain, labor qualified and a sense of pride.
I am not as smart and some here are really knowledgeable.
Here is my quote out of google and the reason I like mirrorless
"The preview on the screen of a mirrorless camera will look close to the final image."
EVF's are doing a great job. Where are we in this. Why is everything we pick up from Asia.
We are a great country and great people? Spend to much time arguing with ourselves.
Stay safe. Keep shooting
Mar 25, 2021 09:51:15 #
I just don't think there will be much advancements/development in DSLR. There is no advantage, early on their was a focus speed advantage, but that has been eliminated. There is no reason to continue to make a more complicated camera that uses more parts when there is no advantage. Mirrorless have the advantage of being able to not only use their brand lenses but you can also use every DSLR lens ever made from every manufacture in history. You can set the view finder to give you the view of a DSLR or the even better view of what the actual picture you are taking is going to look like before you take it.
Mar 25, 2021 10:02:07 #
Mirrorless is a way of life, seeing the world through new lenses and knowing that light reaches a sensor having never been reflected.
Mar 25, 2021 10:11:01 #
It doesn't matter the particular issue...folks will always break down into their own camps.
At this juncture...the DSLR folks break down into the following cats.
1.) Given my age, my DSLR is good enough for me and will serve me to the end ... a normal position and response.
2.) I am saving up for a mirrorless...maybe the next generation... a normal position and response.
3.) DSLR's are just as good as mirrorless, it's all hype ... this is the 'head in the sand' response.
Curved sensors are coming ... allowing for greater image quality and simpler lens designs (which is really cool).
They aren't going into any DSLR's. So the third category will have to dig their heads in even deeper...or switch to a more normal category.
At this juncture...the DSLR folks break down into the following cats.
1.) Given my age, my DSLR is good enough for me and will serve me to the end ... a normal position and response.
2.) I am saving up for a mirrorless...maybe the next generation... a normal position and response.
3.) DSLR's are just as good as mirrorless, it's all hype ... this is the 'head in the sand' response.
Curved sensors are coming ... allowing for greater image quality and simpler lens designs (which is really cool).
They aren't going into any DSLR's. So the third category will have to dig their heads in even deeper...or switch to a more normal category.
Mar 25, 2021 10:17:40 #
I will have to go with you, Wallen.
The image is my goal, whether it is taken with an f 0.45 super lens or a pinhole camera.
Catholics, Buddhists, Islamists - or Atheists?
The image is my goal, whether it is taken with an f 0.45 super lens or a pinhole camera.
Catholics, Buddhists, Islamists - or Atheists?
Mar 25, 2021 10:27:32 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The universe works in crazy ways. You can have good luck wash over you in waves, just like bad luck. Or, you can change to a mirrorless camera.
And now, Sigma has a P&S full frame 61 MP for only $2495. Where do we go next?
Mar 25, 2021 10:31:45 #
SonyBug wrote:
And now, Sigma has a P&S full frame 61 MP for only $2495. Where do we go next?
And what is the best feature of this marvelous development? Sans miroir!!
Mar 25, 2021 10:34:08 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The universe works in crazy ways. You can have good luck wash over you in waves, just like bad luck. Or, you can change to a mirrorless camera.
I tried a mirrorless camera once and got ZITS!
Mar 25, 2021 10:56:30 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You’re a crazy fool if you think this contraption will ever displace the horse ...
You’re a crazy fool if you think autofocus has a place in professional photography ...
You’re a crazy fool if you think digital cameras will replace film ...
You’re a crazy fool if you think Americans will sit on their couch and order their shoes (groceries, books, clothes, etc) and have them delivered without ever trying them on ...
You’re a crazy fool if you think autofocus has a place in professional photography ...
You’re a crazy fool if you think digital cameras will replace film ...
You’re a crazy fool if you think Americans will sit on their couch and order their shoes (groceries, books, clothes, etc) and have them delivered without ever trying them on ...
Mar 25, 2021 10:57:06 #
The chief advantage of a DSLR is they make you stronger. The advantage of a mirrorless is that it’s lighter.
Mar 25, 2021 11:07:27 #
47greyfox wrote:
The chief advantage of a DSLR is they make you stronger. The advantage of a mirrorless is that it’s lighter.
Best thing I've read all morning!
Mar 25, 2021 11:09:24 #
The next scam will be "silent cameras." Everyone will have to "go silent!"
Mar 25, 2021 11:13:47 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
NikonRocks wrote:
When I put my D500 into Live View mode, don't I ha... (show quote)
Not quite. You just disabled your PDAF auto focus system. So if you still want the camera to auto focus you've got trouble. You do benefit from additional exposure aids. However your lens mount is still in the same place. Using a mirrorless camera I have access to some better lenses than you do. They take better photos and are only available for mirrorless cameras. You can't get them for a DSLR at any cost because the mirror is in the way.
It's fine that you're DSLR does what you need. You shouldn't buy new gear to keep trendy. I have new mirrorless cameras and trendy had nothing to do with my purchase decisions. I bought them because my needs are different than yours.
Mar 25, 2021 11:23:46 #
Mar 25, 2021 11:35:30 #
Well thought out! You are spot on about mirrorless cameras being video cameras in disguise. I owned a film and video production company for 20 plus years and the new (old) technology hyped in the mirrorless camera is what we saw in 1980 ENG gear. I just test drove the Nikon Z7ii and even though it has some nice features it is not, in my opinion ready for prime time. If you are just starting your photographic adventure I mirrorless might be the way to go, but replace your DSLR why?
Thanks again for your well articulated thoughts.
Thanks again for your well articulated thoughts.
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