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Mar 16, 2021 13:40:16   #
MJPerini
 
Olympus has made many fine products however their future is at best uncertain. I would say that the prudent thing would be to wait for a bit of evidence (in the form of new product introductions) from the new owners before committing . Their 20MP sensor while a good one is a couple of generations old, now is the wrong time to buy it.
If you see a new sensor, then that would be a good first step.
The first thing I would recommend is renting a Nikon Z50 ---see how it works for you.You already have the lenses.
If you see a new sensor from Olympus, then rent one of those.
Renting is a great way to be sure. I am rooting for Olympus but the truth is their camera division has lost Lots of money annually for a long time, the new owners cannot let that continue. Lots of stuff has to be cut , wait for a new sensor or buy something else.

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Mar 16, 2021 13:45:56   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Peteso wrote:
Thank you. Does Panasonic have the same degree of customization? The default settings in the Olympus Pro Capture modes produce too many images and faster capture rates than is necessary for many applications.


If I remember correctly my G9 does from 8 to 24 exposures pre shutter press and 16 to 26 post. I didn’t use it much because it’s a battery hog. Basically it starts filling the buffer with a half shutter press and continuously keeps cycling through the buffer until you fully press the shutter, at which time it saves the selected number from the buffer and continues to shoot until the total number is taken.

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Mar 16, 2021 13:48:38   #
MJPerini
 
Olympus has made many fine products however their future is at best uncertain. I would say that the prudent thing would be to wait for a bit of evidence (in the form of new product introductions) from the new owners before committing . Their 20MP sensor while a good one is a couple of generations old, now is the wrong time to buy it.
If you see a new sensor, then that would be a good first step.
The first thing I would recommend is renting a Nikon Z50 ---see how it works for you.You already have the lenses.
If you see a new sensor from Olympus, then rent one of those.
Renting is a great way to be sure. I am rooting for Olympus but the truth is their camera division has lost Lots of money annually for a long time, the new owners cannot let that continue. Lots of stuff has to be cut , wait for a new sensor or buy something else.

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Mar 16, 2021 13:50:09   #
pjalper Loc: San Pedro Ca.
 
Having similar issues here....I just aquired a GF5K Lumix M.43 b/c carrying my D750 hurts the hands. The Lumix is light, has most of the features of larger Nikons plus the ability, with the correct coupler, to use all of my Nikon glass. Hope this helps....Peter

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Mar 16, 2021 13:57:43   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
MJPerini wrote:
Olympus has made many fine products however their future is at best uncertain. I would say that the prudent thing would be to wait for a bit of evidence (in the form of new product introductions) from the new owners before committing . Their 20MP sensor while a good one is a couple of generations old, now is the wrong time to buy it.
If you see a new sensor, then that would be a good first step.
The first thing I would recommend is renting a Nikon Z50 ---see how it works for you.You already have the lenses.
If you see a new sensor from Olympus, then rent one of those.
Renting is a great way to be sure. I am rooting for Olympus but the truth is their camera division has lost Lots of money annually for a long time, the new owners cannot let that continue. Lots of stuff has to be cut , wait for a new sensor or buy something else.
Olympus has made many fine products however their ... (show quote)


I was initially worried that the new ownership would strip the best technology and sell it off but it looks like they’re committed to stay in the business. Their losses were mostly tied to fraud by the previous management. I do agree that they probably have some new sensors coming but you can get some great buys on what is still very viable technology now. I just picked up an E-M1X for 1/3 off the regular price.

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Mar 16, 2021 14:00:17   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You might want to reconsider moving to Olympus. The future of Olympus is in doubt.

https://www.techradar.com/news/olympus-exits-the-camera-business-heres-what-it-means-for-om-d-and-zuiko-fans


Even if Olympus does disappear all the cameras and lenses they have made will not disappear with them.

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Mar 16, 2021 14:04:48   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
Photoladybon wrote:
Hi All:

Considering Olympus system primarily for weight reduction. I have been a Nikon user for 50 plus years and have used both FF and DX versions of their cameras. Presently have a D850 and D500 with many many lenses and love these cameras. Due to hand issues, I am entertaining going mirrorless but don't want to go mirrorless and have almost the same weight with full frame mirrorless cameras, adapter pieces, etc. Therefore, my reasoning to go to Olympus. I would love to hear what members have to say coming from Nikon or Canon FF DSLR's to the Olympus system. I'm concerned I won't be happy with the smaller sensor and certainly smaller MP. I am aware there is no facial recognition or bird eye for the Mark111 but am hoping Olympus will come out with something in the near future. I am thinking the E-M1X will be heavy so I would appreciate some feedback on this issue as well. I will keep my D500 and 500mmPF for my wildlife activities for the time being.
TIA for any help you can offer and I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
Hi All: br br Considering Olympus system primaril... (show quote)


One thing no-one seems to have mentioned is the difference in Menu's. Moving from Nikon's very user friendly menus to Olympus's very complicated systems is a nightmare for many people. I know of at least one person who gave up trying to set his M5 up and simply put it on Auto and has not moved from it ever since - says he still gets great shots

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Mar 16, 2021 14:05:00   #
2Much Loc: WA
 
Photoladybon wrote:
... I am entertaining going mirrorless but don't want to go mirrorless and have almost the same weight with full frame mirrorless cameras, adapter pieces, etc...


Don't know if you've handled a Nikon Z50, but it's a lovely little thing. I suspect Nikon's next DX sensor Z series mirrorless camera might be what you're looking for, it's what I would have to see before switching to a smaller sensor. Of course that depends on the urgency to switch, how soon Nikon releases the higher end DX camera, and whether their mirrorless lens offerings would meet your needs.

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Mar 16, 2021 14:47:27   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You might want to reconsider moving to Olympus. The future of Olympus is in doubt.

https://www.techradar.com/news/olympus-exits-the-camera-business-heres-what-it-means-for-om-d-and-zuiko-fans


This is somewhat outdated news from 6/24/2020 at the last update. Yes, the jury is still out on Olympus. But the jury is still out on Nikon too. Nikon needs a camera that is equal to or surpasses other APS-Cs and something more competitive in full frame. And Sony is still the competitor setting the mark. Sony's latest and greatest is splendid beast of a camera. Definitely for the pro market. But how many photographers coming up from a smartphone are going to spring for that camera. This is why the best selling mirrorless camera last year in Japan was Olympus. I have no doubts it was because of size, weight, and cost.

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Mar 16, 2021 14:58:55   #
Dickwood33 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
Check out the Lumix G9 for features as a comparison.

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Mar 16, 2021 15:18:56   #
grcolts
 
Can"t say what the new owners are going to do except that I have seen some roadmaps for them and it looks like they intend to make things happen. Anyway, in the meantime have you checked out refurbished Olympus cameras on the Olympus site? You can find some good bargain there. I have an older Olympus MFT body and a newer Panasonic G9 which I love. The G9 reminds me of my Pentax cameras, being weather sealed and built like a tank. Right now the G9 is selling for $1000 bucks. Personally, I do not see much difference between a large print made with an ASPC camera vs MFT's one. If you do a lot of low light shooting you will see more noise but that can be remedied with programs like Topaz Studio denoise, etc.

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Mar 16, 2021 15:25:24   #
aikiboy
 
I have both Panasonic Lumix and Olympus cameras. Go to a camera store and see what feels best. Image quality is quite good with either. Menus are a lot easier to manage in Lumix cameras, at least for me. I find the ergonomics much better with the G85, G95, and G9, but again it is a matter of personal preference.

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Mar 16, 2021 15:30:55   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
camerapapi wrote:
The company that bought the photographic division from Olympus, called Japan Industrial Partners (JIP) has recently announced its commitment to keep the lens road previously set by Olympus and from what I know they are going to introduce new models in 2021. If you do not know it, the R&D plus the whole personnel previously working for Olympus now works for JIP. I cannot predict the future but the new company has retained all Olympus Visionaries and service centers around the world.

I have been using Olympus cameras with Olympus and Panasonic lenses for several years. My cameras are old, they do not have phase detection built-in except for OMD EM-1 so I do not know how good are they for wildlife photography but I do know the new cameras with built-in phase detection are excellent for that purpose in case wildlife photography is of interest to you.

I have never used a Nikon D850 or a D500, the Nikon bodies I use are old. The Olympus bodies except for the OM-1X are small, considerably lighter than a dSLR with a smaller and very capable sensor. The lenses are also small and sharp. Many professionals are using Olympus cameras and lenses.
The new company has indicated that the use of the micro fourth third format will be kept. It all seems to indicate the new company is working on a new sensor. I do not have all the information so if interested in a new sensor you will have to wait.

Traveling with these small cameras or spending a day photographing with them is a breeze compared to the big and heavy dSLR bodies. Olympus has always had excellent optics and those made for the small cameras are also of excellent quality. I find myself using the Olympus bodies more than my Nikon bodies and for sure when I travel I pick first one of my Olympus bodies. Low light performance with my old cameras is not spectacular but we are talking here old technology. Even so when I have to go with a high ISO my tendency is to expose to the right (ETTR) and I get very good results or even better if I use during editing my denoise software. I am not precisely a low light shooter.

Like you I have been using Nikon cameras and lenses for over 50 years and I feel very comfortable using Olympus. I do not go super big with my enlargements although I know the files enlarge very well. The cameras Olympus makes with high resolution shots I heard are fantastic especially for the portrait and landscape photographer. The new company announced new technologies and from what one of the CEOs said they intend to work with other companies developing new cameras and lenses.

As I said, I cannot predict the future but it looks fine for Olympus. Their new and very expensive lens for wildlife photography is in back order. That tells me enough about the future of the company.
The company that bought the photographic division ... (show quote)


I agree with this writer and come from the same place. I would add that. The slower of the fixed prime lenses are tiny compared to even FX lenses. I like the 17mm on my Pen F. People don't seem to realize its a camera and its not intimidating like larger formats

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Mar 16, 2021 17:46:03   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Photoladybon wrote:
Hi All:

Considering Olympus system primarily for weight reduction. I have been a Nikon user for 50 plus years and have used both FF and DX versions of their cameras. Presently have a D850 and D500 with many many lenses and love these cameras. Due to hand issues, I am entertaining going mirrorless but don't want to go mirrorless and have almost the same weight with full frame mirrorless cameras, adapter pieces, etc. Therefore, my reasoning to go to Olympus. I would love to hear what members have to say coming from Nikon or Canon FF DSLR's to the Olympus system. I'm concerned I won't be happy with the smaller sensor and certainly smaller MP. I am aware there is no facial recognition or bird eye for the Mark111 but am hoping Olympus will come out with something in the near future. I am thinking the E-M1X will be heavy so I would appreciate some feedback on this issue as well. I will keep my D500 and 500mmPF for my wildlife activities for the time being.
TIA for any help you can offer and I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
Hi All: br br Considering Olympus system primaril... (show quote)



You already have what I consider to be the BEST balance of weight/size to wildlife image performance in the D500 and 500 PF ! Everything else will be a step down/compromise in VF tracking/AF/noise image performance IMO........If you are truly interested in size/weight/cost performance I say skip M4/3 and go to the Sony RX10 IV.
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Mar 16, 2021 18:34:36   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
JohnR wrote:
One thing no-one seems to have mentioned is the difference in Menu's. Moving from Nikon's very user friendly menus to Olympus's very complicated systems is a nightmare for many people. I know of at least one person who gave up trying to set his M5 up and simply put it on Auto and has not moved from it ever since - says he still gets great shots


So true I too am an aging lifelong Nikon user. I bought an EM-5mki for IR and was pleased, then added an EM-1mki, and an EP-5. I gave up on the system because of the haptics and the menus. All of the cameras took terrific photographs, imaging was superb, even cropped and printed on 13x19 paper the prints are exquisite. The shutter quit working on the EM-1 and it cost more to fix than it was worth, I traded it in on a D7100. The contrast detect sites went bad on the EM-5, since I had an investment in it (IR Conversion) I pulled the trigger on a repair, now I have a non-IR OMD EM-5 mki that I hate, the buttons are all to tight and small, the menus are terrible, they just do stuff you can't figure out how to correct! With any of my (never broken ever) Nikons I have evry button where I need it every time, and with my Nikons I know they will work evry time, sorry to take so long, but I would go Nikon Z series in a heartbeat. Oh, and my remaining Oly's eat vast quantity of battery, so often I would grab one and the battery would be nearly shot. Peace Out and good luck America

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