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Feb 15, 2021 12:18:12   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
kymarto wrote:
I agree that some are quite overcooked. However it is not necessary to have closer foreground elements, although generally speaking you don't want to be photographing wide open flat vistas. It is true that there is an art to using an ultrawide and it is not for everybody. Here are more "landscape" photos at the very wide end. Yes, you have to have some sort of foreground to lead the eye, but you have to consider that you are going to be in the landscape, and as you point out, you can include some closer elements that open onto wider vistas to really get the feeling of depth, if that is what you are looking for. And it is also true that you might want to feature one strong element, but widen and exaggerate the perspective (like the Great Buddha at Kamakura or the old van caught in lava that I include). Have a look and see if I am making any sense. I feel that an ultrawide offers possibilites for creative composition unequalled by any other focal length.
I agree that some are quite overcooked. However it... (show quote)


Outstanding example of the wide ...I certainly love the Hong Kong shot having been there 4 times ... you are an excellent photographer ... and it shows by example ...

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Feb 15, 2021 12:24:29   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
nikonbrain wrote:
To me you Can't get too wide if you like that grand 4 x 5 field camera images the wider the better . For landscapes I started with the sigma 10 to 20 EX when shooting crop sensor D7100 .. When I went full frame now 14 -24 f2.8 and love it . I even use it to shoot kite boarders this first one was 3 feet away from hitting Me .


Nice work .., nice examples ...point made ...

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Feb 15, 2021 12:26:33   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
kymarto wrote:
That's a puzzling statement. The AOV of a 10mm lens on crop is 109.2 degrees, and that of an 18mm is 76 degrees. That is a huge difference. Here is a shot that shows the approximate difference.

While it is true that a UWA badly used gets old quickly, I find my Sigma 8-16 or the equivalent 14-24 Nikon on FF one of my most used lenses when shooting landscapes. Here are a few examples to show how the distortion of a wide angle can be used (I think) creatively and for impact.


Again .. superbly done photography and examples ....

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Feb 15, 2021 12:47:18   #
Ichiban365
 
I live in Colorado and have visited Rocky Mountain National Park multiple times. Looking at my photographs in a program such as ExifPilot, I see that they mainly spread across a range of 18-80mm. There are other places, such as Britain, where I tend to use the 18mm end of my lenses more. But has been pointed out here, a wide angle lens does not help with the task of capturing the enormous vistas of the American West.
I do have a Nikon 10-20, and love it, but I use my 18-105 almost exclusively in RMNP. I recently bought a really nice Nikon 18-140 from MPB.com and suggest that would actually be a more useful purchase for this trip to extend the range of the 18-55. They are available for under $200, which is a bargain.

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Feb 15, 2021 13:05:25   #
tjw47 Loc: Michigan
 
The wider the angle of the lens, the further away and smaller the mountains will look!
I have a 15-30 & 28-70 mm wide angle lens ( full frame camera )y suggestion - see little use for the 15-30 mm lens for mountain scenery.
My suggestion would be to if you wanted a really wide angle shot of the mountains - just stitch a couple of images together.

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Feb 15, 2021 14:00:26   #
Matt_F Loc: Wausau, Wisconsin
 
I think an ultra wide lens in mountain photography definitely has a place but it needs to be used correctly. If you just point out it a a vista & snap a photo your going to get a very boring picture. Ultra wides are for getting very close to the foreground elements. This picture was taken with a d5600 & 10-24 at 10mm. I don't think stitching multiple photos together would give the same field of view.


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Feb 15, 2021 17:36:16   #
kc48girl
 
We bought Tokina 11-20, super sharp, fast in darker light, but limiting. My best landscape shots were always w6my 35mm prime. However, there is alot more to the Rockies. If you're in Rocky mountain natl park before dawn, you get into elevation and out comes a pack of elk surrounding g your car, you'll wish you had a more flexible lens. We bought a tamron 18 to 400, to get every aspect we might run into without changing lenses. The sunrises from the top are spectacular. We were in Estes Park, and I found a professional photographer who pics you up at 5, helps you understand your camera, will check your settings and is your personal guide for the time you purchase. $ well spent. Jared works with nikon, and a more versatile lens is expensive but there is so much to see, 100 year old flowers you may want a close up of. Good luck

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Feb 16, 2021 10:00:26   #
Abo
 
Tino wrote:
We are planning a trip to the Rockies starting in late May and am wondering if it would be worth it to add a new wide angle lens. I have a D7100 with a 18-55 lens. I wonder if it is worth purchasing a little bit wider lens. Specifically, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens. Would that lens be that much more beneficial?


Get it now.

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Feb 16, 2021 11:26:14   #
sennamonster Loc: fort wayne, IN
 
you are so right. and what a picture to prove it. thanks for your input.

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Feb 16, 2021 11:59:44   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
kpmac wrote:
Only if it is sharper. I don't think you'll gain much as far as composition goes.


There is a BIG difference between those two lens for the landscape photographer!!!

Cheers!

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Feb 17, 2021 14:29:58   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Ourspolair wrote:
I have been using a Sigma 10-20mm lens for several years. I think you should look at one. Yes, you will get quite a lot more from the wider lens.


Depends on what you are going to do with it. I have a Sigma 10-20, but I find that I don't use it all that much. Sometimes it is valuable. You have to determine your photography style.

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Feb 17, 2021 16:24:59   #
appealnow Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
I have been in the Rockies. I am not going to pontificate on which lens, but you will like what you get with a really good wide-angle lens. Some of my favorite photos were shot low down to the ground at the Continental Divide with mountains in the background.

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Feb 17, 2021 18:45:46   #
Photocraig
 
Contrary to the initial instinct to get more into the frame as a panoramic view, I use my ultra wide as a "Foreground Machine." Every mountainous scene, and I live in the mountains, as any other, MUST include a foreground, middle ground and backdrop, including, usually the sky.

Like so many "scenes," they are compelling in the mind's eye, but can make disjointed "out of context compositions." The same holds for sun rise/sets. Putting something of interest "in front of the scene" will draw a viewer to the image and "walk" their eyes through the scene. Front to back and again and again. With no starting point, the viewer just picks points or scans. Good Photographs stand on their own, complete from top to bottom, front to back. Leading lines, "Third's" balance, golden whatever. They don't (usually) work without a foreground.

If you don't like foreground machine, perhaps composition enabler might fit for you. In my view, no composition, no story. No Story, no photo--just a snapshot. Nothing wrong with that, but not really an intentionally composed photograph, to me. Certainly not what inspires me to hike miles for an image.

This works for both landscape and portrait formats.

C

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Feb 18, 2021 10:08:52   #
billt1970 Loc: Gambrills, Maryland
 
Ourspolair wrote:
I have been using a Sigma 10-20mm lens for several years. I think you should look at one. Yes, you will get quite a lot more from the wider lens.



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