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Feb 8, 2021 11:23:46   #
rplain1 Loc: Dayton, Oh.
 
camerabuff58 wrote:
This or a method known as Kaizan, a process of continuous improvement.


Which is just another word for planned obsolescence.

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Feb 8, 2021 12:04:21   #
Larelain Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC
 
pendennis wrote:
Dr. Deming was legendary when I studied business in the 1970's. Several of my econ, business management, and QBA professors regularly lauded him in their lectures. He was the first person of note to quantify quality. Most all modern quality systems are offshoots of his original teachings.

While doing my undergrad work at the University of Louisville, a two-day symposium was offered with Dr. Deming as the main "professor". After the first day, I was in awe of his intelligence, and his absolute mastery of business quality. At the end, I took time to thank him for his time, and his sharing of his knowledge. I only have a few "heroes" in business, and Dr. Deming is one of them.

I also found that manufacturing at Ford, at the time, was strictly hit or miss. I took eagerly took his methods back to our plant, and was firmly told that we didn't have time for a lot of "statistical mumbo-jumbo" (the exact words of our "Quality Control" manager). What I did do, though, was to keep track of things like scrapped parts, and vehicle assembly errors. Even manually done, I could still pinpoint where problems could be.

It took near bankruptcy for the powers at Ford to realize that you could isolate quality problems using quantitative data, and improve the product in quantum terms.
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Over the years I have had 4 Subaru STIs today I still have a 2011 Subaru STI with 90,000 miles (this model was assembled in Japan) and I have 2016 Ford Focus RS which is assembled in Germany. The Ford is a lot of fun to drive but the quality is not up to the Subaru. So Deming's philosophy is still working.

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Feb 8, 2021 12:21:35   #
2Dragons Loc: The Back of Beyond
 
Larelain wrote:
Over the years I have had 4 Subaru STIs today I still have a 2011 Subaru STI with 90,000 miles (this model was assembled in Japan) and I have 2016 Ford Focus RS which is assembled in Germany. The Ford is a lot of fun to drive but the quality is not up to the Subaru. So Deming's philosophy is still working.


I haven't owned an American car since 1968 when I bought a Volvo that I owned for 11 years, however, it had so many repetitive problems with the exhaust system and brake calipers constantly sticking that I would have sold it sooner. My other half was a mechanic so, while the parts were expensive, I didn't have to pay dealership labor costs. Every car I've owned since has been a Japanese made vehicle and I've been very happy with my long lived Toyotas and Subarus. If they could last a lifetime I'd probably still be driving my first one as I'm not someone who needs the latest and the greatest. My other half used to joke and say I was cheap to keep.

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Feb 8, 2021 12:46:24   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Japan was devastated by WW II, yet it turned into a manufacturing powerhouse. How did they manage that? Simple: Professor W. Edwards Deming.

Professor Deming developed a system of manufacturing that was better, and he presented it to American manufacturers. They were making more money than they knew what to do with, and they practically laughed him out of their offices. Then he went to Japan. Japanese businessmen saw the benefits of his plan and adopted it.

Now, the highest award in Japanese industry is the Deming Medal.
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Excellent story, Jerry

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Feb 8, 2021 12:58:22   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Japan advanced as a society known for its production after the war due to the fact that they had no military to fund. No other nations to go to war for and no longer any foreign kingdom building.

They also had a massive rebuilding project before them so they had to think in terms of new and different ways to accomplish those goals.

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Feb 8, 2021 13:33:00   #
DPERDELWITZ
 
Back in the 60's, I worked for an auto parts maker. They mostly made powdered metal products, but also piston pins for locomotives. Their quality control was based on what many years later would become ISO standards. Fast forward 40 years and I worked in quality control for another company which specialized in high speed bearings. The quality control at the second company was behind the previous companies by over 40 years and they did not improve until ISO became required by the buyers. Amazing the difference 40 years did not make.

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Feb 8, 2021 14:16:13   #
bodiebill
 
Modnar wrote:
Are you referring to JIT(Just In Time) manufacturing?


JIT
Your decades late!
It was the concept of Statistical Quality Control, and Japanese developed involvement of the worker to find solutions to manufacturing problems.

We picked up the lead from Northrup Aircraft in the late 70's and adopted it.
When we began the process I had an operating VP promise that corporate staff would not be involved o interfere for at least 6 months.

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Feb 8, 2021 14:24:46   #
bodiebill
 
rplain1 wrote:
Which is just another word for planned obsolescence.


Wrong!
American techniques embrace planned obsolescence.
Continuous Improvement makes the product better, not obsolete.

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Feb 8, 2021 14:50:30   #
bodiebill
 
JADAV wrote:
Professor Deming was involved in the improvements in production times for the Liberty ships constructed in the USA for WWll. Having proved the clear benefits of "continuous improvement" and principles of Statistical Process Control (SPC)his methods and advice were rejected by industrialists in his own country. The devastated condition of the Japanese infrastructure meant that Deming was welcomed as part of US aid to rebuild and reconstruct their industrial base. The American management "culture", therefore, not only threw away the opportunity that Deming offered but lost the benefits to what became a major competitor.
I received training in SPC here in the UK along with the rest of his methods which were so refreshing to hear and revealed obvious benefits. My tutor warned me that the main obstacle to implementation would be opposition from my management. Never a truer word was spoken! It started immediately with the very person who had actually sent me for training. I'd guess that management in the USA has developed in the same way as in Britain. Strong-minded, self confident and decisive individuals with ambition thrust themselves forward and demand recognition and advancement within an organisation to become "top dog". Having achieved control they then tend to promote those who they judge to fit their own image and must obviously be of the "right stuff". These people are gung-ho, "let's get this show on the road", "if you aren't with us get out of my way" people. They drive through whatever fits their agenda and "fly by the seat of my pants" based on "experience". What I found is that like gamblers they only talk about their successes and all mistakes are buried with others blamed. They hate the idea of making decisions based on measured evidence as it takes away the thrill they feel from being in complete control. In a Japanese factory an operator of a process maintains records of events and is trained to analyse causes of quality failures and can make decisions to take actions to eliminate them. I have worked in Factories where the operator is under contract to immediately inform a superior for them to make decisions. Deming's only failure was not to show how the old managers needed to be removed. The main problem is the inertia that existing organisations have which tend to be in the interests of those in control. Digital quartz watch mechanisms were developed in a Swiss university but were rejected by the Swiss watchmakers who were invested in mechanical watches (less accurate too). Japanese manufacturers attended an exhibition in Switzerland and immediately bought into the new technology. History can be a cycle of missed opportunities.
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Northrup Aircraft was an early adopter of the Deming experience in Japan.
We adopted it in the oilfield drilling equipment manufacturing business in Torrance CA/

I found that the power of the worker, trained in Quality Circle concepts (Statistical Quality Control Process), vastly improved the quality of our products, while lowering cost of scrap and rework. It empowered the hourly worker in the decision making process.

It did not come from top down, but from bottom up.

When we undertook the concept I had a promise from my Operating VP to keep corporate staff at arms length until we fully implemented the process. That kept the politics out of the equation, and gave our worker's time to perfect the process.

It was an amazing success story.
Our Foreman were initially trained and lead the groups, then we rotated leadership to trained worker's, who generally out performed the foreman.

It was a liberating event, which eventually lead to our dominance of customer product choice in a very competitive industry.
With one product we moved from 5% market share to over 90% with a major oil company, saving them million $ in third party inspection cost.

Deming was a genius.
General Douglas MacArthur brought him to Japan, then the Japanese led the way from "made in Japan was junk" to the "best quality products in the world".

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Feb 8, 2021 23:51:57   #
Dossile
 
Dr Deming, like so many other efficiency experts, is amazing to study. I have bought Japanese cars for years, several made in the US. Interesting facts though. Since 1960 Japan has had 13 years with negative economic growth rates, 12 of those in the last 30 years. In the same period, the United States has had one year with negative growth rates. The average per capita GDP is $40 K in Japan and $65 K in the US. There simply is much more to an economy than automobile, watch and camera production methods. Watching Japanese men walk through the subway at rush hour, I was struck with the notion that possibly the same characteristics, the same national temperament, that made Deming so effective in Japan, are the same features that have led to their national economic malaise.

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Feb 9, 2021 12:01:35   #
Abo
 
JADAV wrote:
The situation was such that the blinkered USA horses were happy to drink from a trough at one end of the field and
failed to notice that the Japanese ones were shown that it was better to drink from the stream at the other end. When the trough became empty the USA finally looked round and realised what had happened. Makes me wonder if they were horses at the trough or mules.




I really think part of the Japanese success also comes from
a different mindset.

I believe that working on a production line for an American (or an Australian)
particularly in the 60s or 70s is/was felt as a repetitious PITA, and a worker
feeling that way on the line couldn't give a square root if they crossed a thread when belting a bolt through a bonnet hinge... and nor could his supervisor. In fact, his supervisor probably told him if that thread does get crossed; "don't worry about it" she'l be right mate there's three others holding the bonnet on!

Where as a Japanese worker feels; I'm making excellent car (even if it is just a Toyota Corolla)... this bolt is important component... I do perfect job and am honourable.

Of course there are other factors, but ya' know what I'm getting at.

I know of a Holden that went down the production line at the GMH Dandenong
plant (that no longer exists), that was fitted with a disc brake on one side of the front end and
a drum brake on the other... LOL We thought it was a great joke, but I bet
if that happened on a Japanese production line, it would be a disgrace and far from funny.

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Feb 10, 2021 04:30:37   #
JADAV
 
Dossile wrote:
Dr Deming, like so many other efficiency experts, is amazing to study. I have bought Japanese cars for years, several made in the US. Interesting facts though. Since 1960 Japan has had 13 years with negative economic growth rates, 12 of those in the last 30 years. In the same period, the United States has had one year with negative growth rates. The average per capita GDP is $40 K in Japan and $65 K in the US. There simply is much more to an economy than automobile, watch and camera production methods. Watching Japanese men walk through the subway at rush hour, I was struck with the notion that possibly the same characteristics, the same national temperament, that made Deming so effective in Japan, are the same features that have led to their national economic malaise.
Dr Deming, like so many other efficiency experts, ... (show quote)


The causes for Japan's economic decline are well documented and can be researched online. It was the result of reckless lending by their banks during a bubble that burst when the Gov't increased interest rates. Instead of letting the banks fall they were propped up by the Gov't who poured good money after bad on these "zombie" banks. This happened in the early 1990's onwards and ought to have been a warning to banks across the world but we all know what happened in 2008 don't we? It would appear that no matter how well industry and commerce perform the "financial wizards" can sabotage everyones' efforts.

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Feb 10, 2021 09:25:55   #
Dossile
 
Demographics with an aging population, the role of organized crime, the failure of using their college brain trust well, the failure to use women as a major leadership force (culturally imbedded misogyny), the failure to integrate immigrants (xenophobia), the loyalty issues related to employment, a lack of upward mobility with the failure to recognize nonconformist genius, along with over leveraged banking institutions that was mentioned above, among other issues like the cost of production in Japan, have also been pointed out as significant factors in decades of a relatively stagnant economy. An economy is far more than it’s manufacturing culture. Like I said, I like Japanese cars and cameras. But I would never open a business there. We can learn a lot from Japan, both good and bad. But I would never want to emulate their general economy, especially with its current debt to GDP ratio. Sadly, with our current stimulus packages we have pushed ourselves to a similar situation where we have more national debt than economic production. Looks like we learned the wrong lessons from Japan, failing to emulate the good and picking up some of the bad.

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Feb 10, 2021 09:55:39   #
Abo
 
2Dragons wrote:
He was probably generalizing to cover all bases, which would be logical. etc.


You can't believe being incorrect most of the time is "generalizing to cover all bases"?

That's lamer than a one legged millipede.

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Mar 1, 2021 10:17:16   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
They sure have made beautiful cities out of the rubble made by the bombs!!

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