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Jan 25, 2021 17:16:07   #
VTMatwood Loc: Displaced Vermonta in Central New Hampsha
 
grichie5 wrote:
Try Macrium reflect. I switched from Acronis and have no regrets
Backups are fast and start without hesitation. Restores are so easy that in case of an issue, I restore a drive rather than try Microsoft system restore.


+1 for Macrium. The other plus is you can mount a backup image and explore it like a disk... copy stuff from it to another drive.

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Jan 25, 2021 17:19:15   #
no12mo
 
srt101fan wrote:
Can you please explain why you consider "whole disk imaging" useless?


"Whole disk imaging," as has been mentioned, creates a file (or series of files sequentially numbered) that contains everything that is needed to completely restore an operating system (OS) which has failed. It has the advantage over cloning in that if you are uncomfortable with removing the dysfunctional "C" drive to replace it with an operational clone, then imaging may be a good choice. You will need a boot media that has the necessary program to restore the dysfunctional OS in the case of using an image.

I have done frequent restorations both ways having done so on the job and at home and imaging works fine as long as the dysfunctional drive is operational itself (albeit mechanically or electrically.

If you want to cover every contingency, make a clone of your operating system using a second drive. Store the clone in a safe place but be prepared to swap drives should you have a catastrophic OS event.

I cannot recommend Acronis newer than 2018 as an Imaging / Cloning program but there are others that work well.

Good luck but do perform either an image or clone of your OS ASAP

Alan

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Jan 25, 2021 17:24:23   #
no12mo
 
JBeck wrote:
I use Acronis 14 ..never failed me..


Acronis 14 or 15 was one of their better versions.

Alan

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Jan 25, 2021 17:45:54   #
RICHARD46 Loc: New Jersey
 
Besides using the CD-ROM as a boot disk have you ever tried the startup recovery manager

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Jan 25, 2021 17:50:32   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
Bayou wrote:
I appreciate your well made point. BTW I used to be a NCMtnMan myself! Transylvania county.


When my kids were young we were making a trip down that way. I told them we were going to Transylvania county. They were all telling me they did not want to go where Dracula lived. After I got through laughing I explained things to them. Still chuckle to myself when I see it on a map etc.

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Jan 25, 2021 17:53:21   #
no12mo
 
RICHARD46 wrote:
Besides using the CD-ROM as a boot disk have you ever tried the startup recovery manager


No. Anything to do with backups from Windows is generally bloated. Not interested. I started with the original Ghost, then to PowerQuest and then to Acronis. They all works great in their day.

I will say that Gibson Research's Spinrite does miracles in rescuing data lost in damaged sectors on hard drives including important boot files. It literally does forensics to pull the date out that would normally be unrecoverable. I managed to rescue a non-bootable OS once using that utility. It's expensive.

Alan

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Jan 25, 2021 18:18:42   #
srt101fan
 
no12mo wrote:
"Whole disk imaging," as has been mentioned, creates a file (or series of files sequentially numbered) that contains everything that is needed to completely restore an operating system (OS) which has failed. It has the advantage over cloning in that if you are uncomfortable with removing the dysfunctional "C" drive to replace it with an operational clone, then imaging may be a good choice. You will need a boot media that has the necessary program to restore the dysfunctional OS in the case of using an image.

I have done frequent restorations both ways having done so on the job and at home and imaging works fine as long as the dysfunctional drive is operational itself (albeit mechanically or electrically.

If you want to cover every contingency, make a clone of your operating system using a second drive. Store the clone in a safe place but be prepared to swap drives should you have a catastrophic OS event.

I cannot recommend Acronis newer than 2018 as an Imaging / Cloning program but there are others that work well.

Good luck but do perform either an image or clone of your OS ASAP

Alan
"Whole disk imaging," as has been mentio... (show quote)


Thanks, no12mo!

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Jan 25, 2021 18:23:46   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
When choosing a backup strategy and SW, keep the following in mind:

1) you need 3 copies of your data - your primary (working) copy, an on-site backup copy, and an off-site DR (disaster recovery) copy. That implies that your solution should be capable of backing up to network attached or remote storage.
2) backups may be images or compressed files. An image is an exact copy of your data and may be used directly, while a compressed backup will need to be restored by the SW that created it (and restores do fail, even with enterprise class SW)
3) you need to understand how deletes are handled with your solution. If you accidentally delete a file in your primary storage, is the file deleted in your backup and DR copy?
4) versioning or snapshots are important. If a file or your file system is corrupted (perhaps by malware), and the corrupted data is propagated to your backup, it’s invaluable to be able to revert the file or entire file system to a previous point in time.

All these things need to be considered when devising your backup strategy.

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Jan 25, 2021 18:29:25   #
RICHARD46 Loc: New Jersey
 
Good info
Thank you

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Jan 25, 2021 19:14:14   #
rbest77701
 
I have been using Back Blaze for an online backup service. It’s a subscription based service 6$/mon. Never had to get anything back, but everything I need backed up is.

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Jan 26, 2021 10:53:35   #
rcarol
 
rcarol wrote:
I use Paragon Disk Backup and have many years. It provides a clone of HDDs and SSDs with easy setup. The software also allows you to clone a drive to a smaller drive by letting you bypass un-needed applications during the cloning process. I use an HDD receiver that allows me to swap drives. If I get a drive that is giving me errors during boot or worse won't boot at all, I swap the bad drive with a drive that I've previously cloned and I'm set to go.


I have to make a correction. I do not use Paragon Disk Backup, I use Paragon Migrate. Sorry for posting the wrong information.

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Jan 26, 2021 10:55:07   #
srg
 
RICHARD46 wrote:
I'm using acronis having to many problem.Can anyone recommend a good image backup program.

Thanks in advance
Rich


Do you mean leading to many problems? I don't understand the wording here. I can't believe you are just to lazy to add an extra "o"

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Jan 26, 2021 12:34:43   #
rcarol
 
srg wrote:
Do you mean leading to many problems? I don't understand the wording here. I can't believe you are just to lazy to add an extra "o"


This isn’t the first poster to confuse “to” with “too” and I doubt that has anything to do with laziness.

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Jan 26, 2021 13:00:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rcarol wrote:
This isn’t the first poster to confuse “to” with “too” and I doubt that has anything to do with laziness.


It’s the damn spell checker. Even though I proof every post, eventually a “to” instead of “too” or an “it’s” instead of “its” or a “there” instead of “their” gets by. It’s not a literacy issue, and while I’m all in favor of proper spelling and punctuation, we have to remember this is an online forum and not a graded English paper or professional/business letter.

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Jan 26, 2021 13:01:59   #
rcarol
 
TriX wrote:
It’s the damn spell checker. Even though I proof every post, eventually a “to” instead of “too” or an “it’s” instead of “its” or a “there” instead of “their” gets by. It’s not a literacy issue, and while I’m all in favor of proper spelling and punctuation, we have to remember this is an online forum and not a graded English or professional/business letter.


I agree

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