foodie65 wrote:
well, put it to use
I have lil feller. Get a grip and wake up lil my lil foodie65~
The EU did not start cutting deals with China leaving out the USA while Biden was POTUS.
Trump's watch solely.
hondo812 wrote:
we should cut off all aid to the EU. Do a troop draw-down overseas, etc.
Take a look back in history. FDR faced a country that wanted isolation... that was Europe's war. Being isolationist again would make Europe weak and vulnerable to Russia. Europe would turn to China for trade alliances because we abandoned them. If we alienate our allies we are in very deep trouble. China would become more aggressive in the South China Sea, Iran would become more hostile in the Persian Gulf and towards Israel, and Russia would extort EU into doing their bidding once NORD Stream 2 is completed. Alone, we would face increasing aggression from those three countries. If forced to defend ourselves we would be forced into a nuclear confrontation much more easily because we aren't strong enough to take those 3 on by ourselves, not in a conventional land, sea, air war.
At least, that's how I see it. Biden has to repair the damage trump has done to us across the world. You better hope he succeeds.
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
mwalsh wrote:
The EU did not start cutting deals with China leaving out the USA while Biden was POTUS.
Trump's watch solely.
U can’t unwind the deal, if China was your true sworn enemy why would u do it?
That’s why I say it’s hogwash.
soba1 wrote:
U can’t unwind the deal, if China was your true sworn enemy why would u do it?
That’s why I say it’s hogwash.
Why would I do what?
We are talking about some deal the EU made. And left us out of because trump irritated the Europeans so much.
What you or I or trump or Biden do to unwind that?
Come on dude!
soba1 wrote:
U can’t unwind the deal, if China was your true sworn enemy why would u do it?
That’s why I say it’s hogwash.
What makes you think the EU perceives China as their sworn enemy? China is hoping to establish trade relations with the EU free of American interference. This last go around with 5G equipment from Hwawei, where we basically commanded EU not to implement 5G with Hwawei equipment. We said it supposedly has a backdoor for China's military spying group.... unproven but asserted by the US. We were pretty heavy-handed with the EU on that issue. It clearly pissed them off.
mwalsh wrote:
Why would I do what?
We are talking about some deal the EU made. And left us out of because trump irritated the Europeans so much.
What you or I or trump or Biden do to unwind that?
Come on dude!
That's because Trump called them out for the skinflints they are with respect to the defense budget for each NATO country. We are basically subsidizing their healthcare to the tune of multiple Billions of dollars and that has got to stop.
Does Germany need 40,000 US troops over there? Or will 15,000 do?
hondo812 wrote:
That's because Trump called them out for the skinflints they are with respect to the defense budget for each NATO country. We are basically subsidizing their healthcare to the tune of multiple Billions of dollars and that has got to stop.
Does Germany need 40,000 US troops over there? Or will 15,000 do?
I am likely in agreement with you on those issues...but what do they have to do with EU China deals?
I don't think trump alienated the EU leaders with his policy objectives on NATO and relying on our largesse.
I think he alienated our them by being such a petulant jackass in his delivery of the messages.
mwalsh wrote:
I am likely in agreement with you on those issues...but what do they have to do with EU China deals?
I don't think trump alienated the EU leaders with his policy objectives on NATO and relying on our largesse.
I think he alienated our them by being such a petulant jackass in his delivery of the messages.
Well, he's not a polished speaker and he's not really a politician either. He's a CEO, a Boss if you will, and he's not really the "Pal Boss", or the "Coach Boss". He's more of a "Get this Sh!t done now or you're FIRED!" Boss.
I'm at a point in my life where I have no patience for the politicians "shine job" they keep delivering and I prefer someone like Truman who was fairly direct and to the point. I don't want a POTUS of many words. I want one with the right words, short and sweet. I don't want that folksy BS that Bush had with his "n'er-do-wells". The people he was talking about were goddamned evil mofos and he should have pretty much said that. And I don't want the Kings of spin in Clinton and Obama either.
Trump's last SOTU speech wasn't half bad. If he just could have skipped the whole "Oh and by the way" bullshittery that he likes to do, it would have been a fine speech. He's not capable of the JFK type of speeches rife with literary references or foreign languages, but who is these days? Biden? C'mon man!
I confess I am not up to speed on the EU and China. Who's bribing who?
soba1 wrote:
I’m getting everyone on the left riled up because of what I’m saying about Kamala.
It’s what I know you know and the whole world knows she slept her way to the top.
She screwed Willie Brown to get where she is.
If us on the right don’t respect her. Just think of how much respect she will get from the leaders in China and Russia.
Just how much respect do u think she will get from the leaders of the Mid East Arab nations with her past.
If you wanted a woman in office Hillary would have garnered more respect than her.
Yet America is proud to put a slut before the world as our leader.
I think the worst is yet to come
I’m getting everyone on the left riled up because ... (
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I think Mr. Clinton became more popular with foreign leaders when his "bad behavior" became public.
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soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
In all honesty I would much rather Kamala at the helm than Biden as she is more coherent, and probably more shrewd.
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