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Jan 11, 2021 09:17:09   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability
“””””
Emphasis added..


The constitution.

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Jan 11, 2021 09:23:32   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Your point?
DennyT wrote:
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability
“””””
Emphasis added..


The constitution.
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representativ... (show quote)

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Jan 11, 2021 09:32:13   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
anotherview wrote:
Your point?


Don’t play dumb. You know who and what this thread is about.

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Jan 11, 2021 09:57:46   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Well. that eliminates Biden...

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Jan 11, 2021 10:06:18   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
DennyT wrote:
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability
“””””
Emphasis added..


The constitution.
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representativ... (show quote)


'Comfort to the enemy'....so much for Obama & Biden who gave blanket comfort to all of America's enemies

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Jan 11, 2021 10:06:38   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Delete.

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Jan 11, 2021 10:33:22   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Delete.


Good decision . You can’t debate stupid !

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Jan 12, 2021 07:46:18   #
incognito
 
DennyT wrote:
Good decision . You can’t debate stupid !


You should take your own advice once in a while and stop debating with yourself.

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Jan 12, 2021 08:03:36   #
Watash
 
tradio wrote:
Well. that eliminates Biden...


Funny!!

Eliminates Commiela too. She gave aid by bailing out the Democrat insurrectionists.

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Jan 12, 2021 11:27:21   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
DennyT wrote:
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability
“””””
Emphasis added..


The constitution.
“””” No person shall be a Senator or Representativ... (show quote)


This excerpt from the 14th Amendment refers to the Confederate states after the Civil War. And certainly not applicable in terms of use of speech today.

The specific text states, "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same (U.S.), or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof". Actions past tense, not present or future. The intent of the lawmakers was directed to the Civil War that ended in 1865. Another case of Liberals again trying to rewrite the Constitution.

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Jan 12, 2021 13:37:35   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Fotoartist wrote:
This excerpt from the 14th Amendment refers to the Confederate states after the Civil War. And certainly not applicable in terms of use of speech today.

The specific text states, "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same (U.S.), or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof". Actions past tense, not present or future. The intent of the lawmakers was directed to the Civil War that ended in 1865. Another case of Liberals again trying to rewrite the Constitution.
This excerpt from the 14th Amendment refers to the... (show quote)



Where does it say that in the constitution.
Only you are attempting to interpret the meaning to suit your fancy.

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Jan 12, 2021 14:46:41   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Don’t play dumb. You know who and what this thread is about.


There was never a call for an insurrection, that is a myth to be nice and a lie to be more accurate, there was a push for an investigation, in fact what the congress persons and Senators had proposed as a panel of 5 Senators, 5 House members, and 5 SC justices to investigate irregularities over a 10 day period.

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Jan 12, 2021 15:59:57   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Fotoartist wrote:
This excerpt from the 14th Amendment refers to the Confederate states after the Civil War. And certainly not applicable in terms of use of speech today.

The specific text states, "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same (U.S.), or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof". Actions past tense, not present or future. The intent of the lawmakers was directed to the Civil War that ended in 1865. Another case of Liberals again trying to rewrite the Constitution.
This excerpt from the 14th Amendment refers to the... (show quote)


That may have been the intent ..... but that is not what the 14th states .... it is like the Second Amendment .... it was intended as a collective right not an individual right ..... but it was poorly written ..... you are going to disagreed so I suggest you read the Federalist Papers as a historical reference ....

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Jan 12, 2021 16:06:31   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
That may have been the intent ..... but that is not what the 14th states .... it is like the Second Amendment .... it was intended as a collective right not an individual right ..... but it was poorly written ..... you are going to disagreed so I suggest you read the Federalist Papers as a historical reference ....


Even though you are correct in your assessment, it is a non-sequitur as there was no call to insurrection, just more BS from your side, nowhere in Trump's speech did he call for violence, in fact he said just the opposite, he spoke of a peaceful march and reminded his supporters that theirs is the party of law and order.

What the democrats are doing is just another chit show.

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Jan 12, 2021 16:08:54   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Even though you are correct in your assessment, it is a non-sequitur as there was no call to insurrection, just more BS from your side, nowhere in Trump's speech did he call for violence, in fact he said just the opposite, he spoke of a peaceful march and reminded his supporters that theirs is the party of law and order.

What the democrats are doing is just another chit show.


re-listen to the words he used ....

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