Charles Kushner? Blackwater war criminals? How much lower can he go? (Page 3): Trump just followed clinton's and obams's lead. Nothing newsworthy here.

FrumCA

Kmgw9v wrote:

The Presidential pardon is a right given to the President to address unjust prosecutions and excessive punishments. There are rules. It is not designed to excuse murderous or traitorous convictions committed by friends and cronies.
Trump doesn’t care.

Trump just followed clinton's and obams's lead. Nothing newsworthy here.

National Park

dennis2146 wrote:

I don't remember you whining and crying about Bide... (show quote)

Comparing Biden before the election and Trump now is a false equivalency: Biden was not President before the election, and therefore had no presidential responsibilities. Unfortunately, Trump remains President for a few more weeks and still retains the responsibilities of the Oval Office.

Your comparison of Presidential pardons is also a false equivalency. There has always been abuse of the Presidential pardon authority, but trump has increased that abuse sevenfold. His pardons of Kushner's daddy, Manafort, Stone and the Blackwater killers are especially egregious.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

National Park wrote:

Comparing Biden before the election and Trump now ... (show quote)

I imagine these guys trump pardoned will need bodyguards for the rest of their lives.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

wilpharm wrote:

and 9volt keeps crying, even on Christmas!!!

9volt......Priceless

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

National Park wrote:

Comparing Biden before the election and Trump now ... (show quote)

All of that is your corrupt Left Wing attitude against my Pure Conservative pro American freedom attitude. You want some of these people to suffer because they were in the Mueller investigation. Mueller had nothing so took low hanging fruit. You want liars then start with Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others, all who lied.

Dennis

National Park

dennis2146 wrote:

All of that is your corrupt Left Wing attitude against my Pure Conservative pro American freedom attitude. You want some of these people to suffer because they were in the Mueller investigation. Mueller had nothing so took low hanging fruit. You want liars then start with Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others, all who lied.

Dennis

Neither Hillary nor the rest that you refer to were either charged with lying under oath or convicted of lying under oath. I want Stone and company to suffer because they were convicted of or plead guilty to lying under oath. If and when Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others are charged with and convicted of lying under oath then they should go to jail as well.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

dennis2146 wrote:

All of that is your corrupt Left Wing attitude against my Pure Conservative pro American freedom attitude. You want some of these people to suffer because they were in the Mueller investigation. Mueller had nothing so took low hanging fruit. You want liars then start with Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others, all who lied.

Dennis

Lil Davy's heros.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

National Park wrote:

Neither Hillary nor the rest that you refer to were either charged with lying under oath or convicted of lying under oath. I want Stone and company to suffer because they were convicted of or plead guilty to lying under oath. If and when Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others are charged with and convicted of lying under oath then they should go to jail as well.

The Obama Justice and national security department was in charge then as well as after Trump got in. You can't get convicted if your wern't charged. Trump should have cleaned house the minute he took over like Obama and Clinton did. He was naive and thought "justice department" meant just that. As it turned out they were deep state operatives watching out for establishment corruption, as in protecting it.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

incognito wrote:

Personally I could give a rats butt hole about what Trump is doing now because it is not Illegal. Maybe in your shrunken cranium you think it is. Well I have to tell you it ain't illegal I don't know if it is even immoral to do that.

Legality is not an excuse for despicable and unforgivable behaviour. To drive the point home, I guess it would be legal for your spouse to have an affair with your best friend, right?

incognito

National Park wrote:

So you think the pardons of the blackwater group and Kushner's daddy are appropriate?

Your reading comprehension is about the level of a third grader. I never said that and I did state that I was unsure if it was immoral or not.

incognito

JohnFrim wrote:

Legality is not an excuse for despicable and unforgivable behaviour. To drive the point home, I guess it would be legal for your spouse to have an affair with your best friend, right?

What is your excuse? Have you had head trauma as a child? You also guessed wrong in a lot of cultures and some in different states in America adultery is in fact illegal.

FrumCA

National Park wrote:

Neither Hillary nor the rest that you refer to were either charged with lying under oath or convicted of lying under oath. I want Stone and company to suffer because they were convicted of or plead guilty to lying under oath. If and when Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others are charged with and convicted of lying under oath then they should go to jail as well.

Might have happened if O's AG and justice dept had done their duty instead of turning a blind eye to these shady folks.

incognito

National Park wrote:

Neither Hillary nor the rest that you refer to were either charged with lying under oath or convicted of lying under oath. I want Stone and company to suffer because they were convicted of or plead guilty to lying under oath. If and when Hillary, Rice, Clapper and others are charged with and convicted of lying under oath then they should go to jail as well.

You are confusing the good ole boy network because they don't get Prosecuted with someone not being in the loop and getting convicted or more like entrapped into lying.

National Park

idaholover wrote:

The Obama Justice and national security department was in charge then as well as after Trump got in. You can't get convicted if your wern't charged. Trump should have cleaned house the minute he took over like Obama and Clinton did. He was naive and thought "justice department" meant just that. As it turned out they were deep state operatives watching out for establishment corruption, as in protecting it.

I was waiting for this kind of a nonsense response.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

idaholover wrote:

The Obama Justice and national security department was in charge then as well as after Trump got in. You can't get convicted if your wern't charged. Trump should have cleaned house the minute he took over like Obama and Clinton did. He was naive and thought "justice department" meant just that. As it turned out they were deep state operatives watching out for establishment corruption, as in protecting it.

I hope you have been drinking. If you have posted your posts today sober, it's really sad. I'm wondering if you are in the tertiary stage of a disease people don't like to talk about.