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Dec 23, 2020 07:45:50   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
National Park wrote:
You would like Trump to be ruler uber alles, wouldn't' you?


You don't give things too much thought do you, the bill was written by a group composed of special interests, a hand full of Senate and House staffers from influential offices, and not put on the floor until just a few hours before the vote was to be taken, so what real input did your representatives have? This is again a funding bill for the entire government, either pass it or shut the government down, where were the representatives of the American people, your representation and mine, given a chance to debate the specifics of the bill and truly represent their constituents? It is a shame, they don't give a shit about the American people, we mean nothing to them... And why are we paying millions of dollars for things like gender studies in Pakistan? Washington is broken and being run by a handful of million and billionaires, clearly we are not being governed as the constitution intended, with our consent, were the American people allowed to address the issues we see, from both sides of the aisle, the government would function according to an entirely different set of rules... ie, all bills of 100 pages or less must be published at least 2 weeks prior to a vote, bills over 100 pages must be published 4 weeks and then debated on the floor prior to a vote so that American citizens can read and provide feedback to their congressional representatives, none of this 5500 page bills with only hours to read them. That is done so that all kinds of special interest crap can be thrown into them and get passed, crap that would never stand through a floor debate.

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Dec 23, 2020 08:54:35   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
And I think that you are braindead.


Please don't use the word "think" so loosely.

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Dec 23, 2020 09:01:12   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
idaholover wrote:
So we can be 30 trillion in debt and still do this? Jus askin

M


With interest rates near zero right now, the economic pay back for stimulus is a good deal .

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Dec 23, 2020 11:56:54   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
thom w wrote:
Please don't use the word "think" so loosely.


pot/kettle?

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Dec 23, 2020 12:38:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
Please don't use the word "think" so loosely.


Oh! Thom has weighed in, with nothing of any real substance, just a back handed insult.... Have you nothing better to do than Troll?

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Dec 23, 2020 12:54:58   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Oh! Thom has weighed in, with nothing of any real substance, just a back handed insult.... Have you nothing better to do than Troll?


Yep, waffle Thomi boi our resident troll~

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Dec 23, 2020 13:42:53   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
I hope everyone that is ranting about this bill understands that the stimulus is only part ( about 40%)of the bill.

One poster complained and gender programs in Pakistan not having anti connection to the stimulus. Of course not , it is part of the “ omnibus “ spending portion that funds the government thru next September. McConnell has been sitting in the bills required to find the government for months.

It all in one bill - the stimulus. AND the omnibus spending bi wrapped in one package with the stimulus cost of $900 billion and the omnibus government funding bill of $1.4 trillion.

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Dec 23, 2020 14:04:40   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
DennyT wrote:
I hope everyone that is ranting about this bill understands that the stimulus is only part ( about 40%)of the bill.

One poster complained and gender programs in Pakistan not having anti connection to the stimulus. Of course not , it is part of the “ omnibus “ spending portion that funds the government thru next September. McConnell has been sitting in the bills required to find the government for months.

It all in one bill - the stimulus. AND the omnibus spending bi wrapped in one package with the stimulus cost of $900 billion and the omnibus government funding bill of $1.4 trillion.
I hope everyone that is ranting about this bill un... (show quote)


Good case for a line item veto. WTF is happening in our country when we are giving millions to countries that hate us?

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Dec 23, 2020 14:36:30   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Good case for a line item veto. WTF is happening in our country when we are giving millions to countries that hate us?



Trump presents the greatest reason for not giving the president the line item veto .

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Dec 23, 2020 14:41:32   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Good case for a line item veto. WTF is happening in our country when we are giving millions to countries that hate us?


Nobody hates your country, but there is a damn good chance that

most of the people outside of your country hate trump's guts.

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Dec 23, 2020 14:51:11   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
I hope everyone that is ranting about this bill understands that the stimulus is only part ( about 40%)of the bill.

One poster complained and gender programs in Pakistan not having anti connection to the stimulus. Of course not , it is part of the “ omnibus “ spending portion that funds the government thru next September. McConnell has been sitting in the bills required to find the government for months.

It all in one bill - the stimulus. AND the omnibus spending bi wrapped in one package with the stimulus cost of $900 billion and the omnibus government funding bill of $1.4 trillion.
I hope everyone that is ranting about this bill un... (show quote)


No, I did not rant about it being connected to the stimulus bill, I absolutely understand that it is passed as a huge omnibus bill which replaces the normalized budgetary process and is always put off till the last moment so that both sides can stuff it full of pork! My question was comrade, why are we paying millions of dollars for things like gender studies in Pakistan anyway? How does that pork and other similar pork contained within the bill benefit the American people? Why are we paying to strengthen the borders and actually build border walls in several Mid-Eastern countries yet here in this country we find border security and walls to be offensive, they don't work, and they are racist!

Answer those questions with a straight face and then tell me again how big government is good.

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Dec 24, 2020 11:02:29   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
DennyT wrote:
Trump presents the greatest reason for not giving the president the line item veto .


Yep, you dims love your pork~

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Dec 24, 2020 11:06:12   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Yep, you dims love your pork~


And if the tables were turned the republicans would grow a big fat

appetite for pork too. Try and tell me different.

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Dec 24, 2020 11:24:26   #
Triple G
 
Kraken wrote:
And if the tables were turned the republicans would grow a big fat

appetite for pork too. Try and tell me different.


If anyone thinks that there is no GOP pork in the omnibus funding bill just has their biased glasses on. All of those foreign country funding amounts are requested through the State Department and other federal agencies so thank Pompeo and other trump cronies!

https://www.foreignassistance.gov/



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Dec 24, 2020 11:37:53   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
How useless is congress anyway? When leadership puts out a bill with 5600 pages 6 hours prior to a vote what message are they sending? Why do you have a congress this day in age anyway?


Maybe you would prefer China. Russia or Cuba where the legislative branch is only a rubber stamp for the strong man on top? That sure is what Dear Leader would like.

Yeah, that's exactly what Jefferson had in mind. Just do away Article I.

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