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Clearing up a few things about drone "how, where and when"
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Dec 22, 2020 16:19:51   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Ditto:
quixdraw wrote:
If you haven't worn a badge, consider that there isn't a lot of information, and that you might not know enough to comment.

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Dec 22, 2020 16:50:20   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
So happy these horribly noisy things cannot be flown in National Parks! I hope more open public spaces where they cannot be flown are added to the list.

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Dec 22, 2020 16:56:18   #
AnotherBob
 
alberio wrote:
I witnessed a person flying his toy drone over the Kilauea Caldera in Volcanoes National Park one night to capture the lava lake. The Park Ranger told him to shut it down, which he thought he could just keep flying, so the Ranger warned him again only this time the guy ended up on the ground with tazer darts stuck in him. There was about 200 people taking pictures of the incident with their cellphones and I got a good shot of him sitting on the ground with the Ranger standing over him.



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Dec 22, 2020 17:08:53   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Dttto:
via the lens wrote:
So happy these horribly noisy things cannot be flown in National Parks! I hope more open public spaces where they cannot be flown are added to the list.

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Dec 22, 2020 17:43:57   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
ecurb wrote:
Blatant abuse of authority. The Taser was intended to replace a lethel firearm when an officer would otherwise have killed a subject. Use of a Taser to force compliance to verbal orders is a gross overreaction and could be lethel. There is always a chance a Taser could cause heart issues on subjects, that's why it's classed as a less lethel weapon.
Ranger was a criminally neglect cowboy who should loose it's job.
Was the Ranger a small man or a woman?


The ranger happened to be a large man.

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Dec 22, 2020 17:49:52   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
quixdraw wrote:
If you haven't worn a badge, consider that there isn't a lot of information, and that you might not know enough to comment.


Yeah, we know nothing about the history of the drone operator, if he had other conflicts with authorities. It is easy to assume the officer overstepped his authority. On the other hand the fact it was in Hawaii, the local law enforcement types do tend to be tough on haole and easy on locals. The perp was a blonde haole.

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Dec 22, 2020 23:31:25   #
tallshooter
 
alberio wrote:
Yeah, we know nothing about the history of the drone operator, if he had other conflicts with authorities. It is easy to assume the officer overstepped his authority. On the other hand the fact it was in Hawaii, the local law enforcement types do tend to be tough on haole and easy on locals. The perp was a blonde haole.


There are proper channels to being allowed to fly your drone almost anywhere. You have to do the homework, pay the fees and have the proper credentials, haole or local.

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Dec 23, 2020 00:21:51   #
SteveLoker Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
morris rei, If you fly as a hobby you can register all of your drones under the same registration number. The registration number must be affixed to the aircraft either way. It can be placed anywhere you don't need tools to access it like inside the battery bay. It does not have to be visible at all times. I do have mine labled on the back side of one of the rear arms.
You are correct on the National Parks, they are NO FLY ZONES. If you do your homework, you "might" get permission to fly, maybe...I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. Some State parks will allow you to fly but check with the local ranger first.
Photos and video coming soon!

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Dec 23, 2020 00:24:23   #
SteveLoker Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
Mine is exceptionally quiet.

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Dec 23, 2020 00:26:34   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
ecurb wrote:
Blatant abuse of authority. The Taser was intended to replace a lethel firearm when an officer would otherwise have killed a subject. Use of a Taser to force compliance to verbal orders is a gross overreaction and could be lethel. There is always a chance a Taser could cause heart issues on subjects, that's why it's classed as a less lethel weapon.
Ranger was a criminally neglect cowboy who should loose it's job.
Was the Ranger a small man or a woman?


It would be interesting to hear what you would have done in the Ranger's position, handed him a "Red Card" like a soccer official. Then what if he refused to leave the park. No one has any respect for authority anymore.

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Dec 23, 2020 02:07:05   #
ecurb Loc: Metro Chicago Area
 
one_eyed_pete wrote:
It would be interesting to hear what you would have done in the Ranger's position, handed him a "Red Card" like a soccer official. Then what if he refused to leave the park. No one has any respect for authority anymore.


Simple, tell him to bring the drone back and leave, if he doesn't, he gets cuffed and taken to jail.

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Dec 23, 2020 07:16:15   #
National Park
 
anotherview wrote:
Thank goodness: "no flights in any US National Park."

I'm supposing this restriction extends to national monuments and like preserved areas, including state parks.

After all, we go to such places to enjoy natural values and to experience peace and quiet.


This summer I was hiking in a state park. While enjoying the view on a mountain ledge, I heard an annoying whirling noise. I looked up and a drone was hovering 25 feet above me. If I had had a gun I would have put the drone out of its misery.

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Dec 23, 2020 08:57:37   #
IHH61 Loc: Homestead Fl
 
National Park wrote:
This summer I was hiking in a state park. While enjoying the view on a mountain ledge, I heard an annoying whirling noise. I looked up and a drone was hovering 25 feet above me. If I had had a gun I would have put the drone out of its misery.


And if you had you would have broken a rather serious Federal law. Would you take the same approach if the noise that was annoying you came from small children?

While drone pilots must fly so as to not endanger anyone and most will also go out of their way not to “annoy” anyone they can only do so much while accomplishing their job, artistic vision, or just enjoying flying.

The National Park ban was based on the actions of few people doing stupid things with drones. The Park Service took their usual heavy handed approach ( for another example banning light painting in Grand Tetons ). That said you can get a waiver to fly if you work hard enough.

Hugh

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Dec 23, 2020 10:08:15   #
SteveLoker Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
Hugh, spot on!

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Dec 23, 2020 10:52:55   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes. Scofflaws beware. Their hobby does not trump the law.
ecurb wrote:
Simple, tell him to bring the drone back and leave, if he doesn't, he gets cuffed and taken to jail.

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