Tex-s

Even so, which of the 5 points can you refute?

Tex-s

And Denmark expressly asked Bernie Sanders to stop calling them Socialists, insisting their economy is privately owned and capitalist.

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

I truly commend your commitment to civic action.

You've cited extremists but extremists exist in both parties. Reps. AOC, Talib, Omar, Pressley and Senators Sanders and Warren endorse ideologies that I find extreme and won't support. I have a similar dislike of Senators Inhofe, Cruz, Graham and Perdue and Reps. Jordan, Gaetz and Nunes.

There are a few others in each party but these worst of the bunch.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Yep, Barry was a bad dude.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

I don't consider senators Cruz, Jordan, Gaetz, or Nunes extreme, I consider then decent honest men with the fortitude to stand up and support what they and I believe in, individual freedom and responsibility, and less government control over individual God given rights. Which brings us to the point of just why the democratic party disparages God and anyone who has faith and lives by judaeo-christian scheme of morals. They reason that if God gave man rights no one could take them away, therefore there must be no God and government grants rights that can be taken away at the pleasure of those in power, it all boils down to control.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇺🇸 Well put.

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

You're dealing in bogeymen stereotypes, I am surprised you think like that.

There's a good bit of irony there.... the President-Elect goes to Mass every Sunday and has a long record of doing so. The lame duck President is not a church going man unless it was for a photo op. in which he held the bible upside down.

I'm sure you realize that I clearly hold the opposite opinion of the republicans I listed. In my opinion their priorities are themselves, their party and then the country. The right wing likes to call him Pedo-Joe (wrong) but have you bothered to look at Jordan's history and the claims college athletes filed against him?

btbg

The president elect goes to mass. He also violates the teaching of his church and has had multiple bishops say that by church teachings he should not be allowed to take communion.

He goes to church, but he doesn't believe in the sanctity of life.

And as far as your list of extremists, I also believe that Nunes Cruz, Jordan et al are honest men who value and want to preserve the constitution. The democrat group that you cited however, is clear that they do not believe in the constitution as written. And, unfortunately they are driving democrat politics right now, not the democrats like Manchin form West Virginia that are actually close to the middle.

The party you are supporting is far left. You recognize that they are extremists, but strangely you don't seem to understand that those extremists are the face of the party you support.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

I however am not surprised that this is the way you think. You also realize that Joe has been refused Holy Communion because of his support of abortion?
Being as you support the agenda of the socialist progressive left I fully understand your stance and although I wholly disagree I don't hold that against you. As of now this is a free country and good men have died to protect your right to believe as you wish.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/21/joe-biden-talks-soul-saving-democrats-remove-god/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/11/03/joe-biden-catholic-mass-holy-communion-refused-column/4123123002/

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

They aren't the party, Biden's cabinet doesn't reflect their beliefs. Sanders is publicly lobbying to be named Secretary of Labor. He won't get it. If you want to discuss what is leading your party, it's trumpism. Virtually every republican kow-tows to him because of his base. Privately 28 senators told Bob Woodward that they can't stand trump but they are cowards who are too afraid to cross trump. Look at McConnell, "moscow Mitch" is too afraid too drift too far from trump because he's afraid trump will fire is wife (Chao) through a tweet.

Let's just agree to disagree.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

I thought it was a given we disagree, you want a socialistic overbearing government, and I want freedom, it's simple.

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

It is really surprising that you deal with gross exaggerations and stereotypes and call it the truth. Really, who are you to tell me what I want in a government? I'm clearly no socialist, I've already disavowed the left extremists.

I didn't vote for trump the first time around but I thought "he's my president, I hope he succeeds." He failed miserably. History will be very unkind; he'll likely be regarded as one of the five worst presidents in our history. Now trump is doing everything he can to tie the hands of the incoming administration. His outrageous lies, hypocrisies and flat out lack of concern for the good of the country should bother all citizens but apparently, trump has successfully poisoned the minds of his supporters. All you right wingers are hoping Biden fails because trump has convinced you to think like that... it's that simple.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Biden already failed, a winner never cheats to settle an election. If you support a socialist regime like the democratic party that promises more laws, more control, the abolishment of personal rights and freedoms, what am I supposed to think? If you support the democratic party you are supporting their agenda, how can you vote for them and claim you don't support them?

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

Pure HS. You really swallowed the cool-aid. I could not disagree with you more. No sense in continuing.

InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA

As near as I can tell, the dimmer switch has only been turned in one direction, away from capitalism. It used to be the promise of a decent reward for a job well done inspired immigrants to move to the US, now a vast number come for the handouts.

The concept of a living wage reduces productivity and entrepreneurial spirit. Why bust your hump starting a business like a restaurant where you're likely the only one NOT taking a salary to pay all your revenue to low-skilled labor in the form of a living wage. The concept of a living wage is truly moronic and will destroy small businesses and cause massive unemployment.

Does the burger flipper deserve the same wage as an executive assistant or a practical nurse? Do you really want to encourage anyone entering the workforce to remain in an entry-level position?

It's easy for a lot of the retired crowd on this forum to pontificate on the distribution of wealth being earned now by those still in the workforce. I know you deserve what you have, but I'd be willing to bet that most young democrats don't. Someone like the future president AOC might look at your wealth and decide you and your heirs don't need everything you have.