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Dec 6, 2020 10:17:53   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
larryepage wrote:
These planets do not move rapidly. They are not far from their December 21st positions right now. They are also two of the brightest objects in the night sky. So go outside tonight (or the next night with no clouds) and take a look in the southern part of the sky after its gotten dark. Even if the moon has come up, you should have no problem finding them.

Their closest approach will have them separated by a distance equal to about 1/5 the diameter of the moon, so there will still be visible space between them at their closest approach.
These planets do not move rapidly. They are not fa... (show quote)


A "year" on each of these planets...
Jupiter 11.86 earth years
Saturn 29.46 earth years

Earth moves a lot quicker and changes the parallax view - so it makes them appear as they are moving toward each other more rapidly.

I have been watching these two in the night sky for a month now when they appeared much farther apart - very bright indeed.

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Dec 6, 2020 10:31:27   #
George II Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
saparoo wrote:
I'm in Georgia and I read December 21st, 45 minutes after sunset, SW sky. Don't know if I will be able to see it or take any pictures because I'm having a total knee replacement on the 17th. Maybe someone will capture it and add it on UHH and I can see it then. Best of luck!!!


With our luck it will be overcast or raining....good luck with the knee replacement...i had a bilateral replacement done 15 years ago all will be well if you follow the rehab...
Regards,
The “G”

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Dec 6, 2020 11:28:08   #
daldds Loc: NYC
 
I have free app called “Skyview Lite.” It does not cost anything. It is extremely simple. Open the app and hold the phone up to the sky object you wish to identify.

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Dec 6, 2020 11:58:25   #
george19
 
Well, maybe in 800 years I’ll have a mirrorless camera;-)

Jupiter and Saturn have been visible in close proximity to the south shortly after sunset for a while. At about 7 pm in early November they were just east of south, with Mars rising in the east, and Saturn at about 10:30 to Jupiter.

Most of the conjunction is because of the relative orbital speeds of the planets, and Jupiter and Saturn will be out of sight for several months as they recede behind the sun.

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Dec 6, 2020 12:42:24   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
These two planets will be so close that they will appear as one. Of course, by "close," it's just a matter of positioning and an optical illusion. This will be a good chance to get some unusual pictures. Or, you can wait 800 years for them to get close again.

Not quite 800 years but beyond my span: "The extra-close Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in 2020 won’t be matched again until the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction of March 15, 2080."

On Dec. 4th the pair fit nicely in a 600mm field-of-view. On Dec. 21st you could easily use a 3500mm lens with room to spare!

bwa

Dec. 4th
Dec. 4th...
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Dec 6, 2020 13:21:36   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
<snip> Or, you can wait 800 years for them to get close again.


Great Conjunctions, as they are called, occur every 20 years. The last one, in 2000, was lost in the haze of the sun. The next will be in 2040, which might as well be 800 years for all the likelihood I'll be around to see it.

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Dec 6, 2020 13:24:58   #
Naptown Gaijin
 
Last one for this pair that was this close and visible from earth was in 1226, according to NASA... but you may have a better source of information.

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Dec 6, 2020 13:38:33   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Say Cheese wrote:
OK I'll ask, Where should we look in the sky? Where should we point our lens?


There are two great apps for your phone. Planets, sky view free, that all you do is point your phone to the sky and it shows you where everything is. I use sky view free, which just came out with an upgrade at $1.99 and we'll worth it.

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Dec 6, 2020 13:44:53   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...I'm having a total knee replacement on the 17th..." First and foremost thank you for your service and deciation in the healthcare field for 30+ years... it is truly appreciated saparoo. With this career background I'm certain you are keenly aware that blood clots are likely the most significant risks of knee replacement surgery.

A.K.A. If surgery damages a blood vessel or most importantly if you remain immobile for several days after the procedure, venous blood flow can dramatically slow in the leg, and a blood clot may form. A blood clot in one of the deep veins in the legs is called deep vein thrombosis (DVT).

However if it moves up to your lung it becomes what is know as a Pulmonary Embolism which is a very serious complication (can be fatal). You'll be on anti-coagulants such as Apixaban or Warfarin following your procedure. You may also be put on anti-platelet intervention (Clopidogrel or Ticagrelor). Please do not discontinue these medications without discussing the ramifications very carefully with your healthcare provider(s).

So yes you may encouraged to be up and moving about soon after your procedure... And the good news is that currently knee-replacement is up to 85-90% successful (lasting 15 years without another procedure).

Thinking your involvement with tennis may have been a causative agent for this procedure... Just a guess based on many other tennis partners I played with over the years... Seems that knee-replacements are over represented in this group...

Wishing you all the best with the procedure and a very successful outcome!
Hoping Jupiter and Saturn align perfectly in your favor...
"...I'm having a total knee replacement on th... (show quote)


I had uni knee replacement a few years ago. I used to be a baseball pitcher and a fast pitch football pitcher. I also played soccer and referred soccer. The doctor said any one if these could have caused this. Uni knee is a half knee. Mine was inside half. Was not bad at all. It was the therapy was was hell...

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Dec 6, 2020 14:10:08   #
lbeatiee Loc: California
 
Thanks for the tip about Stellarium

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Dec 6, 2020 14:29:11   #
FeddieFotos Loc: Ardmore PA (from Dominican Republic)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
These two planets will be so close that they will appear as one. Of course, by "close," it's just a matter of positioning and an optical illusion. This will be a good chance to get some unusual pictures. Or, you can wait 800 years for them to get close again.


Please check Earth and Sky a free subscription.
These 2 planets will be closest on Dec 21st 2020...then I am going on a deep sleep to confirm in 800 years. Have fun.

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Dec 6, 2020 14:31:43   #
Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA
 
Naptown Gaijin wrote:
Last one for this pair that was this close and visible from earth was in 1226, according to NASA... but you may have a better source of information.


This time the separation is 6 arc minutes and will be the same separation in March of 2080. About every 20 years they are in near conjunction, but typically the separation is a degree or so.

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Dec 6, 2020 15:13:53   #
CSand Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
These two planets will be so close that they will appear as one. Of course, by "close," it's just a matter of positioning and an optical illusion. This will be a good chance to get some unusual pictures. Or, you can wait 800 years for them to get close again.


It is interesting to note that this is being called "The Star of Bethlehem". The three wise men, the Magi, were indeed wise in the field of astronomy and would have studied this happening. Google the Christian perspective for this upcoming event and connection to the birth of Christ. The article that I read was at CBN World News and I believe article was titled "Bethlehem Star"

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Dec 6, 2020 16:20:04   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
The local weatherman said that this confluence might look like the "Christmas Star" about 2k years ago. I hope it's not cloudy when it happens.

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Dec 6, 2020 16:25:06   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
CSand wrote:
It is interesting to note that this is being called "The Star of Bethlehem". The three wise men, the Magi, were indeed wise in the field of astronomy and would have studied this happening. Google the Christian perspective for this upcoming event and connection to the birth of Christ. The article that I read was at CBN World News and I believe article was titled "Bethlehem Star"


It was humbling to go to Bethlehem and other biblically historic places in 2017 when I went on a 2-week trip to Israel. I went with a normal tour group and it was a mixture of religious and secular sites. My pastor leads a trip to Israel every couple years. One day I'm going to go with his group (even though it's grown exponentially in the last several years), but it takes place in January so I can't make it due to work.

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